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I think the trade market in our league was slow and boring over the past few years. The big trades this year added some much needed fun and excitement.

Since becoming a keeper league (10 years ago), team managers (much like real life GMs) probably overvalue their young talent and are reluctant to make big trades. Obviously I'm not excluding myself from these habits.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 07:47 (two years ago) link

ya, you blew the doors off and i thank you for that! i like the big trades and they have been far and few between for most of the leagues history.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link

i honestly feel bad about the vlad trade, like it opened up a floodgate that wasn't opened before

my ears are burning lol

but nah even if you hadn't made that trade i would've been hustling like i did during that month anyway. i feel like it's really rare for a team to have as many good unkeepable players as mine did and somehow still shake out to be as bad as it was in the standings, but some enormously bad pitching in april and may kinda nailed my coffin shut. tbh the kingmaker trades have actually been around? i just feel like the first salvo just happened a little early this year.

maybe something could be adjusted in the offseason to disincentivize blowup trades

i feel like the most elegant fix (if it were a problem that needs to be fixed, which i don't think it is?) would be to limit the number of players you can keep via trade to 2 of the 5 or 3 of the 5 or something. but yeah in a roto i kinda like the buy-sell dynamic. i hate it in a h2h league because sometimes you get playoff-bound teams entering an arms race, to the point where... lower playoff-bound teams start to sell, which is just sad (see: my football league every year)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

that said i uh i still have 6 top-60ish dynasty league players on my team so if anyone is interested in a 2 for 1 hit me up - turner (8), mookie (9), wander (22), bieber (24), eloy (28), castillo (60) per fantrax today (i picked their dynasty rankings arbitrarily)

that said the trade would probably involve castillo+1 out for a player better than the +1 and i doubt anyone wants to do that

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

team managers (much like real life GMs) probably overvalue their young talent

definitely but i feel like in reality, in a keeper league like this one, it's the other way around - these deals benefit the buyers so much it feels cheap. like it's awesome that i can keep vlad for the next 7 years but i'll probably feel compelled to trade him the first year i contend just to keep up with the other teams around me who are all making trades for bundles of sexy 30-32 year olds
my ears are burning lol

i mean i'm clearly still trying to make some more kingmaker moves so i can't really talk here!
tbh the kingmaker trades have actually been around? i just feel like the first salvo just happened a little early this year.

i peeked through past years and didn't find much, at least on this scale.

buuuuuuut if everyone's cool with it then that's cool. it does keep things a little more interesting

, Thursday, 29 July 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link

i believe the season i won (two years ago?) i made one trade? devers and franmil reyes for verlander. this season has definitely had more trades, especially of big names, than any since i joined ILX fantasy. i generally think it's fun, though i might find it more annoying if i was anywhere near contending.

na (NA), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Im already psyched for next season when i can unveil my amazing new team name

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 28 August 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link

Great pennant race we've got going on here.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 08:33 (two years ago) link

oh wow – you're right. I'd been so focused on my other team i hadn't paid much attention to our standings! i wish yahoo did like a visual timeline for standings.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

pretty basic tho. animated would be more fun (like at the end of a game of CIV).

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

been a while, but i updated the 2022 keeper sheet with all of the adds/drops up until a few mins ago, probably the last update til the offseason! all of the trades included now as well.

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 10 September 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

Thanks dude

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 September 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

Thanks!

Two of my starters got shelled yesterday to the tune of 14 combined ER in 5 IP, and my team ERA went up by about .1. Still managed to move back into first place, somehow.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 12 September 2021 11:26 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

1.5 points separating 1st and 2nd with 6 days left!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

I'm not posting anything (well, besides this post) for fear of jinxing my season.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

Saw you making some lazy afternoon moves. Was expecting the both of you to be making some panicky early morning transactions!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link

for the record i don't think i've ever maxxed out any position and my outfielders and ss are done as of today. crazy.

j.q higgins, Thursday, 30 September 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

I have been near the bottom of the league in #moves all season long. My middle name is "don't panic" ... but my first name is "I traded away seven more years of Vlad Jr. and if I don't win the season I will die".

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 30 September 2021 08:27 (two years ago) link

Looks like yours to lose really, seeing how jq is maxed out in so many slots (just 7 innings left to use aswell)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 September 2021 12:02 (two years ago) link

Congrats NoTime!! Your insane gamble of trading away your home-team-superstar-best-hitter-in-baseball-and-also-only-22-years-old player paid off!!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

Thanks I know! (*laughs and then cries for the next seven years of keeper eligibility*)

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 4 October 2021 06:35 (two years ago) link

congratulations to NoTimeBeforeTime!

na (NA), Monday, 4 October 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link

I can't believe I finally won in our league after seventeen seasons of trying (and three second place finishes). I didn't have high expectations going into the season but had a great/lucky draft which really helped when injuries started piling up (not to mention the suspension of my perverted/psychopathic ace SP). It was one of those years where most of my roster moves worked out and a few key players overachieved (Ohtani!!).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 4 October 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link

Congrats again, dude.

A lot of my top players stank this year - Lindor, Yelich etc.
Was a seller this year for the first time in a while (I think I’d been second place two or three years in a row) and dealt Bryant before he became a FA, along with a few other deals and somehow my team started doing better after dumping talent?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 October 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link

Congrats to NTBT! My big ol trade mostly paid off but it wasn’t enough. A relatively low OBP led to relatively low runs despite great hitting elsewhere, and like any good baseball fan I’ll also blame my starting pitchers for not WINNING despite great numbers elsewhere. I also mostly think NTBT was just too good.

omar little, Monday, 4 October 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

most of the issues this season were in offense. i was particularly hurt by using early draft picks on DJ LaMahieu (who was bad all season) and George Springer (who was injured for big chunks of the season). at least i traded a non-keeper-eligible Aaron Nola for potential hotshot prospect Adley Rutschman, who is keeper-eligible.

na (NA), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

forgot to wish NTBT a hearty congrats! hearty congrats to you NTBT!

also came back to say that i remembered to do the final update on that sheet with all of the september drops, here.

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link

Thanks Will! And thanks again for your work on the keeper spreadsheet.

My keeper situation isn't as bad as I'd feared ... Dylan Cease showed legit #1 or #2 starter potential this year, so he and Bichette have me covered for solid <27 keepers. I doubt Ohtani will be as good next year, but obviously I have to keep him. That leaves five players (all of whom were really good last year) for two keeper spots. It's going to be a tough decision!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:21 (two years ago) link


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