ATTN: Copyeditors and Grammar Fiends

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (5060 of them)

It should be "am I not?" Is that usually looked upon as being grammatically correct?

http://tinyurl.com/lrhdut (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

distri-bute, she says is wrong; distrib-ute is right

where the hell is she coming up with this stuff?

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know of any hard and fast rules, but it seems like Webster's generally avoids having hyphens come after a short vowel. So in the example you cite, "funeral pro-cession" is OK because the O in "pro" is a long vowel, but "pro-cessed the claims" is not OK because the first syllable there sounds like "prah."

max readroom (jaymc), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

That sounds crazy, Abbs.

http://tinyurl.com/lrhdut (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

PP yeah but i guess my question is more why does "aren't i" even SOUND right? it shouldn't at all!!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

However! My Webster's does break it as "pro-cess," presumably because no one actually pronounces "proc" as a single syllable. Like I said, there are no hard and fast rules. In the case of "distribute," however, Webster's does go with your editor, and I'm inclined to agree.

max readroom (jaymc), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

("Proc-ess" might also suggest that the C is to be pronounced as a hard C, so yeah, all around I think "pro-cess" is better.)

max readroom (jaymc), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Ok good to know, I am just tired of re-hyphenating all these random words at her behest every week.

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

FYI, I went with "or"; this came back to me changed back to "and."

That's why you should have gone with "at least"!

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I know. :/

max readroom (jaymc), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

on another subject, why is it "i'm fabulous aren't i?" when "are" does not agree with "i".

my guess: we started using it as a sonic substitute as amn't fell out of favor

my recommendation: tell people you're part Scottish and say amnae

nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Can't seem to find an answer to this by googling...when you are talking about U.S. administrations -- e.g. the Bush administration, the Reagan administration etc., does administration have a capital A? I seem to remember being told that you talk about a government but the Government, but I don't know if the principle is the same.

Cathy, Monday, 3 August 2009 10:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I would say yes.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 3 August 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I would say no, and I wouldn't capitalize "the Government," either. But house styles may vary.

jaymc, Monday, 3 August 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

AP says lower case for "administration".

http://tinyurl.com/bapppp (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 3 August 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

usage question: do you think the phrase "rest assured" requires an object (e.g., "rest assured that we're working on it"), or do you think one can rest assured in the abstract? (like, just resting, feeling assured. of nothing in particular.)

nabisco, Monday, 3 August 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd say the latter. merriam-webster may say differently, but i think it's perfectly OK to use "assured" to mean a state of mind, so it'd be just like writing "rest happy"

8080's and internet break (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

m-w links assured² (noun) to "insured", but fuck that imo

8080's and internet break (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Re the winning margin in a horse race: "two and three-quarters lengths" or "two and three-quarter lengths"? Converting to numerals is not an option, alas.

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Latter is more popular on Google, but the former feels more correct, since it's basically "two lengths and three-quarters of a length," right?

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

or three fourths, yes.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe it just looks jarring to people because of the two plurals right next to each other.

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh wait, new alternative:

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,050 for "two and three-quarters lengths". (0.12 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 66,300 for "two and three-quarter lengths". (0.15 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 249,000 for "two and three-quarters of a length". (0.14 seconds)

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

three quarter-lengths

conrad, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

the only thing I can think of is that horse racing may have special conventions for stuff like that ...but on the other hand ... would you say three-quarters pound burger or three-quarter pound burger?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp Never mind, that's Google up to its old tricks, where it says "249,000 results" and then you click to the second page and find out that it's "omitted" some "similar" entries and that there are really only 17 hits.

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Neither, I'm a pescatarian.

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Quick question on US style re: quote marks and punctuation (that old chestnut). Does the "punctuation inside" rule apply even with things that aren't direct quotations, as in:

The film tells the story of the "People's Princess".

or

The film tells the story of the "People's Princess."

?

Alba, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I know it's hard to believe but in American English I don't really think there are any exceptions to putting periods and commas inside quotation marks.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks.

Alba, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Someone who is not my friend but whose comments I can see on facecase just wrote: "I was in main and got to see the wales to." It's like a perfect shitstorm of eye-stabbing.

that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I would friend that person just to berate them, then unfriend.

Mario Brosephs (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Corduroy wales, surely.

jaymc, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"to" is Welsh for "roof" and "main" is Welsh for "lean" -- maybe it's a complicated pun

nabisco, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

facecase!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

facecase.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Supposed to edit the questions for a multiple choice test. For the answer choices, complete sentences end with a period, fragments/numbers/etc. don't end with punctuation. What about choices such as "Yes" and "No"?

Super Smize (Leee), Saturday, 26 September 2009 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Have any of you ever heard or used the word "timeously"?

Maria :D, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Not until just now. Seeing as it's just about universally defined as the exact same as "timely," perhaps you can be one of the last speakers of English to help euthanize it.

nabisco, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I just came across it in a translation. "Timely" has the problem of being an awkward adverb. I always end up using "in a timely fashion" (in contracts and official documents).

Maria :D, Thursday, 1 October 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

oh right, that's completely true -- that's a big point of utility for it. (and makes defining it as just "timely" sort of ... bad, actually.)

nabisco, Thursday, 1 October 2009 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought it was even more wussy than "timorously."

Beth Parker, Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

so you know how everyone has that one grammar thing that they can't ever get right? your/you're, who/who, it's/its etc. well mine is effect/affect. can someone help me 2 understand :-/?

baby girl lemme snrub up on you (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

ha - who/that**

baby girl lemme snrub up on you (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

WHO THAT

wH1N1 g. swinegarten (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

affect is usually a verb, ie "[x] affects [y]"
effect is usually a noun, ie "[x] has an effect on [y]"

that's the simplified version i guess

wH1N1 g. swinegarten (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Copyeditors and Grammar Fiends, we that

baby girl lemme snrub up on you (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

thank u kev

baby girl lemme snrub up on you (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

it gets really fun when you realize that "to effect" can be a transitive verb meaning "to bring about" ie "obama hopes to effect change..."

also forms of "affect" can refer to emotions, ie someone's "affective state"

wH1N1 g. swinegarten (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.