iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

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i mean that certainly happened to me as well, maybe events as we know them are over

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

i've deliberately 'ruined' my facebook feed, joined bundles of groups like 'i lived in skokie illinois in the 60s and 70s' and at one point the algorithm suggested i add a bunch of russian military academy guys, so i friended them and then got nudged to add some old russian rock and rollers. now my feed is really good TBH

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

lmao that sounds awesome

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link

i just get advertisements for complicated shirts

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

when i go to facebook it's like "where the fuck did you go. you turned your back on me. fuck you"

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

Before FB my high school class (1989 FWIW) had various web sites attempting to gather us and organize reunions, etc. Post-FB these felt redundant and lame (even in comparison to FB).

Before FB, Evite was trying to do what FB events does now. But again, once all or most of the participants have FB accounts (of whatever activity level), it just feels like extra work to set up an event in one of those services and then go tell everyone on FB.

Just as it is extra work to have an FB event, and then at the last minute remember that there are those two friends who "don't even have a Facebook account*," and you need to email them separately.

Of course I know the anti-FB arguments. A lot of them seem to focus on the shitty "content" - including all the terrible politics and the malign information landscape and the allergy to facts. But I keep scratching my head because A. Facebook didn't invent any of those things, and B. How TF are you using Facebook for content and news and information? It's terrible at that. There are loads of better ways to get information. C. IME Facebook makes it reasonably easy to avoid shit you don't want to see. Or people you don't want to interact with. D. There's always the old "dude, just scroll" approach to information that you dislike.

* = aka the new "I don't even own a TV"

trial by wombat (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

I hardly look at Facebook, and if I do, it's never through the app, but instead on Chrome with the Newsfeed Eradicator plug-in. This way I can see whose birthday it is, new events, and etc, but never see the feed... because frankly, the feed is mostly bullshit.

Twitter is also bullshit.

I despise Instagram but stay on it because it's one of my only means of maintaining contact with a wider community.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link

Tldr: These are people I would not ever directly call or email, but who I'm not ready to completely drift away from. Don't most people have that category? How do you reach them if not FB?

i don’t, i drift away from them. shit or get off the pot imo

if you really want this instagram does this job too. except way simpler and easier.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 12:40 (two years ago) link

If I quit facebook not only would I lose the contacts of tons of acquaintances that fall into that category Puffin pointed out - people whom I'd occasionally see if I was still living in Portugal - but also tons of potential networking connections; not like anyone uses linkedin for that shit im earnest.

Instagram is terrible to communicate with beyond putting a like on someone's picture.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 12:45 (two years ago) link

You're using it wrong then.

Much to my chagrin, I probably text more with acquaintances on Insta than I do with my phone number.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 12:53 (two years ago) link

oh the messaging's ok, it's the commenting that's shit

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 12:58 (two years ago) link

I've lived for a while in three countries in different parts of the world, and now live in a city I hadn't even visited until 2014, if it weren't for Facebook I would keep in touch with people by email or sth but that's just not how it goes now, at this point it is a struggle to stay in touch with anyone beyond family and colleagues, It's a bad thing and it makes me unhappy.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link

Do y'all actually keep in touch with these people though? As in actually exchange messages with them (including relying to a post). Or do you just see their posts / know you could contact them if you wanted to?

I quit FB six years ago not because they facilitated genocide and collaborate with fascists or other political reasons or their relentlessly terrible data privacy policies—seriously, gtfo with this being comparable to "I don't even own a TV"—but because I had grown tired of it due to having to use it at a job. I left that job and pretty much never used my account, yet people assumed I was seeing posts & events there because they could tag me or whatever. It has worked much better being one of YMP's "two friends," and besides in my world of variously aged people no one talks about FB anymore. It's been years since anyone expressed surprise that I don't have an account. You'd have to kidnap me to get me to a high school reunion though, so I guess ymmv

rob, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I comment on stuff occasionally, give the customary birthday wishes, order shit when I see an acquaintance has a new thing out.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 13:31 (two years ago) link

I mean, some? But lots of people don't bother posting anything these days so it's a moot point. Feels like a holding pen, people who have deactivated their accounts I have lost touch with entirely, maybe they don't care.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

i don’t, i drift away from them. shit or get off the pot imo

That's a valid way to be and live, of course; I guess I admire the purity in this approach. But it doesn't work for everyone.

trial by wombat (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link

i would like to quit instagram but where else will i see pictures of pottery and people doing that pelvic tilt stomach exercise

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link

pinterest and pornhub?

rob, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

less pottery on pornhub than you would expect tbh

"Unchained Melody" intensifies

trial by wombat (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

thanks to 3 30-day bans in a short period of time, I'm realizing when I can't post to FB, I don't have any desire to read it, and just use Messenger to talk to friends and.....it just *feels* better.

that I wound up going to Twitter for a bit kind of cancels it out but it really feels like a fucking detox, taking a break from this place.

flipside - people actually msg you thinking you're depressed or deceased when u don't post for a while and didn't tell them yr banned.

there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 August 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

through Messenger I did find out TWO of my high school friends are getting divorced....within a 5 minute span....so FB still sux.

there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 August 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

barely a month back on, and I got banned for 30 days again for quoting Dawn of the Dead in a thread specifically about Dawn of the Dead.

I quoted the doctor saying "they must be shot on sight" in response to someone doing the "dummies" quote, and someone on my profile reported it as incitement to violence and FB agreed and upheld on appeal.

truly worthless website. i'll enjoy another vacay.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link

deleted my account five years ago and there hasn't been a single solitary second when i was like "damn i wish i still had a facebook account"

Clay, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link

it's been about 4.5 years for me as well. was shortly after trump lost by a few million votes (in 2016, i mean, not 2020)

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link

most of my posts lately had just been sharing COVID-19 hospitalization/case stats updates for friends anyway but yeah you're not missing much.

most of my actual friends I just message on messenger anyway.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link

i really do echo clay's assertion though - it's not something you would think about afterward. you'd adapt. i'm still on instagram by the way (obv, but just in case people don't know, owned by facebook). it's not heaven or anything, but it is not facebook

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link

i'm with you KM

i have been edging closer to ditching IG too tbh

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 09:07 (two years ago) link

i'm back in the instagram game because so many artists are on it, and the medium/format/platform of ig is actually pretty compatible with that****

****in some ways. in some ways, it's horrible for art and especially for time-based mediums like film and sound. forcing the world into portrait mode on their phones rather than landscape was a bold move. anything that involves as an important element is also screwed, because people don't have sound on half the time (🔉sound on!🔉) and even if they do, they're probably listening to it through tiny phone speakers, or in a loud place. but for photos and paintings and images and stuff like that, it's pretty good

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

anything that involves ^^sound^^ as an important element is also screwed,

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

my (not really) post-pandemic fomo has been so bad that i had to reduce my instagram usage to near zero

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

you're missing my haircut instagram stories. RIVETING.

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

Clearly, you should make people upload a schematic of their video and audio setups before you decide whether they deserve to view your content or not

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

"you mean, you don't even have a process?!"

typo punishment 1: i always save your up your reccos (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

Sorry, Karl, I can't really read that post due to compression artifacts.

You're going to have upload it in a lossless format (pm me for the ftp information) thxbye

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

i will what it takes to expand my network and make new connections that could lead to personal success

typo punishment 1: i always save your up your reccos (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

goddammit

typo punishment 2: i will what it takes to expand my network (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

my fb account has been disabled for no reason and unfortunately since facebook is irreparably broken i can't recover it because they believe i've requested "too many sms codes"; this would be fine if my instagram weren't also disabled

not that i want to be on either platform that much but it's just annoying

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

Be grateful.

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

How is this God damn website so popular when every experience of it is anti-human. Sometimes I think it’s just AIs and bots talking to each other and clicking on each other’s videos and pages.

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link

the food is terrible
yeah, and such small portions

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link

Be grateful.

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lol, i mean, i am, but even though i barely use them now i kind of like to have my facebook and instagram accounts up just so my mom doesn't worry about me

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

also they disabled my account because of something i didn't do, so i'm like freaked out about that additionally

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

would prefer to delete facebook and instagram on my own terms instead of there being some inexplicable suggestion that i violated community standards

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

that i can't contest, because the website is irreparably broken

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

https://www.politicalorphans.com/something-weird-is-happening-on-facebook

"What are those accounts and why do they matter? It isn’t clear and there’s no definite pattern. A lot them are, for lack of a better term, squirrelly. They seem to be “promoter accounts,” generating dozens of posts of day consisting mostly of spam. Some are offshore. A few appear to be ordinary people. Why these tagged accounts deliver such huge impact is unclear, but the results are impressive. How this works is murky, but it’s clear that someone has found a way to gain absolutely stellar reach for these apparent spam posts. What they have in common is help from affiliate networks."

sleeve, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

No

DT, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:33 (two years ago) link

This hearing is extraordinary.

Side note: “Despite being battered by lawmakers all morning, Facebook seems unaffected. Since the hearing began, its share price has risen 2 percent to roughly $332 and continues to push upward.”

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

if anything, i'm sure investors are heartened by facebook's turn from the 'zuck apology era' to the 'nameless guys in suits who don't give a fuck era'. seems better for business

typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

the whistleblower also said she doesn't think FB should be broken up

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link


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