Can We Try De-Exhuming McCarthy, US Politics July 2021

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Christianity != Evangelicalism, and even there there's a schism between mainstream evangelicals and liberal left evangelicals.

Like, you aren't in any way, shape, or form describing Unitarian congregations, or most of the Episcopal congregations I've associated with. (Presbyterians, OTOH, get the side-eye.)

Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

Funny how any critique of a religion must be true for every single member of that religion for it to be valid, but we can freely throw around critiques of conservatism that don't come close to applying to every conservative

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

fwiw I like Unitarian doctrine, a lot of friends of mine are Unitarian.

admittedly haven't set foot in Episcopalian church since I was a kid going to Bible school so I haven't had as much experience with them.

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

xp
probably shouldn't do that either!

sometimes i get lazy and just say "christians", but i try to say "white evangelical" instead these days, because that's really what i'm talking about

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

it does seem inevitable that, if you grew up with any particular strain of Christianity, that is the default one for you. I grew up Catholic. It's my default, regardless of how little I go to church. Evangelicals are like some weird concept to me.

akm, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

It seems with a lot of American white evangelicals, the politics/bigotry comes first, and then the cherry-pick arcane parts of the old testament to support those views... rather than focusing on the new testament and the teachings of jesus with all the tolerance, grace, transcendence, etc.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

Funny how any critique of a religion must be true for every single member of that religion for it to be valid, but we can freely throw around critiques of conservatism that don't come close to applying to every conservative

It's almost like they're two separate things.

Karl Havoc (DJP), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

It seems with a lot of American white evangelicals, the politics/bigotry comes first

Yes, well ... see the history of the formation of the Southern Baptist Convention. The bigotry was the founding principle.

cherry-pick arcane parts of the old testament to support those views... rather than focusing on the new testament

OT: stone the gays
NT: but you don't have to keep kosher

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

"It's almost like they're two separate things."

It's almost like any two things that have ever been compared have been 2 separate things

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

yet people keep doing it for some reason

rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

fwiw I had no problem with DJP pointing out the broadness of my statement, which did hyper-focus on Evangelicals a bit (mostly because they tend to be the major type I see that yoke-up with right-wing paranoia)

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5c4b4108a358ac6e49188fd5/master/w_1920,c_limit/roy-cohn-sundance-film-opener.png
(Roy Cohn and Donald Trump in a still from WHERE’S MY ROY COHN?)

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

“In private calls with voting rights groups and civil rights leaders, White House officials and close allies of the president have expressed confidence that it is possible to ‘out-organize voter suppression’” https://t.co/EBGD2o9wDR

— Liz Goodwin (@lizcgoodwin) July 23, 2021

thisisfine.jpg

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 23 July 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

Minnesota

Woman with Trump flag pulled over by state troopers after driving across the State Capitol lawn, during pro-Thompson press conference. She’s shouting at troopers “I am a white woman! There is only one race!” pic.twitter.com/jY9iOGWGur

— John Croman (@JohnCroman) July 26, 2021

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 July 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link

the heart and soul of the GOP

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

the new Trump diehard theory is that Joe Biden was repelled from entering 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue by "the military" on inauguration day and has been living in an 80% replica scale model of the White House on Tyler Perry's Atlanta estate. pic.twitter.com/uK7QUFRInl

— K. Thor Jensen (@kthorjensen) July 26, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 July 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

madea's family insurrection

bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link

Also average height of a Biden staffer is 3.5 inches shorter than a Trump staffer, so they can fit in the smaller White House.

a K Thor post is probably a joke btw

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

A joke is just a reality tweak that a Trumper hasn't thought to espouse yet.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

I am troubled, because Biden (or someone resembling him) appeared at an event in my neighborhood two days ago. Then the streets were closed off and a presidential motorcade came through. Like, there were real helicopters and police motorcycles and limousines with flags on them.

Just goes to show the lengths the establishment will go to keep THE TRUTH from THE PEOPLE. It's astonishing.

trial by wombat (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

And now the Tweet has been removed, by the lying fake news media, to cover up the real truth. Wake up, sheeple! Do your research!

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 26 July 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

Oh, it's back. Mysterious!

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 26 July 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

The cabal needed to delete some parts that were only on a need-to-know basis. Duh.

trial by wombat (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 July 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

the p stands for pissboy fetch me a coozie https://t.co/dG9aum6iyq pic.twitter.com/AGMaKEc28M

— kilgore trout, terminal hiccups patient (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 27, 2021

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 02:29 (two years ago) link

Enjoying the collective lols at George P Bush, truly the Charles II of the Bush clan.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link

"i like ken paxton because he commits crimes while in office. reminds me of me!"

bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

i like ken because we're going to murder people together! more than i would have with george p!

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5c4b4108a358ac6e49188fd5/master/w_1920,c_limit/roy-cohn-sundance-film-opener.png

wait, this is a picture of donald trump? (guy on the right) xps

treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link

looks like a fun party!

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

i believe so xp

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

i was watching Angels in America (still am, only on episode 3) and googling for Trump + Roy Cohn, and that pic came up in some article or another. must be real!!

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

yeah i found it on vanity fair. i think it is real. he and cohn were apparently close friends in addition to cohn being his lawyer. according to unnamed sources in numerous trump tell-all books, trump still misses cohn and unfavorably compares his lawyers to him. they are "weak" where he was "strong" and a "fighter."

their relationship is pretty fascinating. trump seems to have had very few actual friendships in his life, but one of them was with one of the worst people in american history.

treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

trump seems to have had very few actual friendships in his life, but one of them was with one of the worst people in american history

same with cohn!

bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link

Is, uh, anyone following the testimony?

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link

Mitch McConnell isn't, apparently

burnt hombre (stevie), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

The cops were moving.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link

It was pretty powerful stuff. I mean, I knew a lot of these stories, but as one commentator put it, it's one thing to read the descriptions or read testimony or first hand accounts, it's another to hear and see them. And something I have to constantly remind myself is that the vast majority of people don't follow this stuff at all. They have more important things to do. So I would not be surprised if someone that hasn't been following this stuff, or only knew the most basic beats, heard or saw some of this testimony for the first time and came away shocked.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

I sure hope you’re right.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link

I was very pleased that the witnesses described the 'insurrectionists' as <terrorists>. We need more of that.

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link

xpost I don't know what there is to be right about. Mostly it probably just means a handful of Republicans that will feel that much more guilty the next time they vote for another psycho.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link

Hmmm.

The DOJ has REJECTED a claim by Mo Brooks needed for his bid for immunity from Swalwell’s lawsuit.

Denying Brooks’ claim his Ellipse speech fell within the scope of his employment, DOJ says it was a “campaign activity” and allegedly inciting a riot.

Doc https://t.co/wmEmmO7iNU pic.twitter.com/TqnI0JIr6G

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) July 28, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

“Instigating an attack on the United States Capitol would not be within the scope of a Member of Congress’s employment.”

—a real subheading in a @TheJusticeDept memo explaining why @RepMoBrooks shouldn’t have Westfall Act immunity from @RepSwalwell’s suit https://t.co/wmEmmO7iNU pic.twitter.com/7CBxWBFwew

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) July 28, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link

haha

PELOSI on the backlash to mask mandates: "That's the purview of the Capitol physician...nothing to say except we honor it."

Q: @GOPLeader McCarthy says it's against the science.

PELOSI: "He's such a moron."

— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) July 28, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link

just... lol

NEW: Democrats are trying out a new midterm strategy — blame the GOP for voting to defund the police. And the message is coming directly from Speaker Pelosi’s office https://t.co/xbrin1KtFl

— Akela Lacy (@akela_lacy) July 28, 2021

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

I just went from “Pelosi, right on” to “Pelosi, whuh”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link


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