Alice Coltrane - S/D

Wow, good stuff.

Beautifully put. But as a person unused to dealing with music of AC’s calibre, I can say that Kirtan is allowing me into its heart and I am building out from there. So in that way it’s broadening her reach.

Boom!

yep that's great.

great job unperson! especially appreciate the quotes/context on the backend of the paragraph.

it's like, regardless of what the end product is and whether it's more intimate or revealing or anything else, there's just the fact that it's not what she recorded. it doesn't make it better or worse or anything, it's just important to know. was irritated tor read the pfork review and see that it didn't even come up

like it let it be...naked came out without the context that before that it was let it be

Just read your review, Phil! Very nicely put, and nice to see it written down given how much it's just been taken at face value.

man the real Turiya Sings is fucking incredible tho

So I actually bought the new reissue when I saw it this weekend, couldn't help myself. But I remain baffled and disappointed that there aren't any immediate plans to reissue her version.

your review has ruined this new version for me. I was getting into it before I read but now it just feels very empty compared to the one with all the extra arrangements

It was noted in the Pitchfork review that this isn't the original album.

"On a more technical level, according to a label representative, the original Turiya Sings remains formally unreleased because the Coltrane family has never found its master synthesizer recordings.

What Coltrane’s son Ravi did find—around the time of his mother’s final album, 2004’s miraculous Translinear Light—were 1981 recordings she made of Turiya Sings featuring only her voice and Wurlitzer electric organ, an instrument that she once said came to her in a divine vision. (“In one meditation… the precise instrument I should get was revealed to me,” she said in an interview. “I didn’t need to do any research; it was just conveyed to me.”) These pared-back tracks of Coltrane’s most minimal music are now released as Kirtan: Turiya Sings, like seeds of the cassette that also, in some sense, expand it."

I've been enjoying the new reissue quite a bit since it arrived in the mail a week ago. Do agree that it would be nice to have a properly done reissue of the original cassette release, but am still very happy with this one.

I never heard the original cassette release, more than hearing part of it on WFMU (I think, memories are a little fuzzy) at one point, so it never really became deeply embedded in my DNA or anything. With that in mind, I'm surprised by how much I am enjoying this new reissue. It does have its own minimal, meditative vibe that works when presented this way. That said, I really wish they would have been able to reissue the cassette version too.

“Keshava Murahara” on my headphones right now. Almost makes me believe god exists.

ecstatic music.

saw "Turiya and Ramakrishna" featured at the top of a Spotify curated Jazz You Know-playlist

which is true

Coincidentally just listened to Ptah and yeah that track is something else

40-minute video of a performance from 1993 (solo harp, then synth/violin duos, then solo synth with vocals):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRolZjMXk3Q

amazing, thanks for sharing.

Wonderful

Truly. That was thoroughly enjoyable.

When she's playing harp at the beginning I kept expecting a bright blue glow to start appearing around her.

at long last, a legit reissue of "ptah"

https://jazz.centerstagestore.com/products/alice-coltrane-ptah-the-el-daoud-lp-verve-by-request-series

yeah placed an order for this last week after off-loading my (pretty good sounding, TBF) bootleg vinyl copy on the ebay.

makes sense, Turiya & Ramakrishna is kind of a system glitch hit on Spotify, on all sorts of really lame playlists

but what a jam

Mind blown!

TIL that Doja Cat is the girl in the pink dress, hanging with Alice Coltrane. pic.twitter.com/oLnH3KWSwb

— Dave Segal (@editaurus) September 21, 2023

ha yes this has been going around, pretty cool

huh

Doja Cat fans and AC fans are probably like who dat?

From the ages of about 8 to 12, Doja lived on a Californian ashram headed by Alice Coltrane, the wife of jazz musician John Coltrane, after Doja’s artist mother moved there from her grandmother’s house in Rye, N.Y. (Her father, who has not been a big part of her life, is South African actor and dancer Dumisani Dlamini.) While there, she learned her first dance moves from the Bharatanatyam tradition. While she doesn’t dance that way anymore, “I think that helped shape how I emote on stage because it’s a very emotional form of dance,” she says.

https://time.com/6269491/doja-cat-interview-time100/

interesting

awesome! My eldest is a big fan of both, this will blow her mind

I had this album framed on my wall for a while. It looks so good

xps am I allowed to call this pairing AC/DC?

ahem https://theheatwarps.com/2023/10/30/coltrane-santana-1974/

!!!

whoa I was just listening to that LP yesterday!

interesting

Wow. Definitely gonna dive into both of those this weekend, though the live recording is the bigger draw for me.

My first guess at a drummer for the live stuff would be Ben Riley, who was on Lord of Lords and Eternity, which were released before and after that concert, respectively.

loving the stripped down vibes

Bliss: The Eternal Now version 3 (alt take) is great

accidentally put it on repeat and I say it was stuck there for a good half hour, bliss bliss eternal now

also getting strong star wars theme vibes which i guess rules

i'm not high

but i feel high

Holy shit — her 1971 Carnegie Hall concert (with Pharoah Sanders, Archie Shepp, Jimmy Garrison, Cecil McBee, Ed Blackwell, Clifford Jarvis, Kumar Kramer, and Tulsi Reynolds) is being released by Impulse! in March. There's a pre-order link for vinyl, but not for a CD version yet that I can find...

!!

I hope there is a CD version coming, would absolutely grab that in a heartbeat. Be a nice upgrade from the Hi Hat release with just "Africa".

i can't figure out how to link directly to the preview track/video, but there's a very excellent 15 minute version of shiva-loka here halfway down the page here:

https://pitchfork.com/news/alice-coltrane-1971-carnegie-hall-concert-set-for-release/

pretty cool — always wondered if there was more of that show. I guess so!

Impulse usually does CDs, would be surprised if they didn't for this one, too.

Yeah, I'm sure they will, it just hasn't popped up on their webstore yet for some reason.

oh hell yeah

great, now do berkley '72