"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

.. and a leader of the opposition that Boris doesn't mind. Certainly wants him around for the next General Election..

last year some Tory was quoted saying "he's the Roy Cropper of politics" which proved to be a gross overestimation of his abilities. But aside from the tedious PMQ encounters with Boris they don't really go for his jugular because obv they fear anyone else might be more of a threat to them come the next GE.

Given how much Corbyn was offered for his legal defence against Jessie Ware's Dad alone, yeah, this ain't it.

His what against what?

I'm too hot and bothered to even look it up but it's summat to do with the Panorama doc on Labour anti-semitism and perhaps Jermy also said Jessie Ware's last album wasn't as good as devotion or tough love!

Jessie Ware’s dad is that twat who did the antisemitism Panorama.

MPs just voted on Priti Patel's horrific Nationality and Borders Bill.

It criminalises boats rescuing people at sea and attacks refugee rights, violating our 70-year commitment to the Refugee Convention.

I voted against it. Not a single Tory MP did the same. Heartless.

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) July 20, 2021

wow ... Labour actually opposed this bill

Labour's John McDonnell has just accused some MPs in the immigration debate of giving speeches more suited to an English Defence League meeting.

— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) July 20, 2021

Meanwhile, the purging of the left continues:

https://leftfootforward.org/2021/07/why-ken-loach-could-be-expelled-from-the-labour-party-tomorrow/

Certain left-wing groups are set to be proscribed from the Labour Party, as Sir Keir Starmer pushes to get rid of “toxic extremism”.

National president of the bakers’ union, Ian Hodson, and film maker, Ken Loach, are among those who may be expelled this Tuesday.

Labour wants to proscribe Socialist Appeal, Labour in Exile Network, Labour Against the Witchhunt and Resist, with the decision being made on Tuesday 20 July at the National Executive Committee (NEC) meeting.

If the proposal is approved, which is expected given the pro-Starmer NEC majority, anyone supporting these groups will be automatically expelled from Labour.

Unlike the past approach of assessing individuals to get rid of Militant members, the party has decided it will automatically kick members out if they support these groups.

Ken Loach and Ian Hodson could both be expelled because they are official ‘sponsors’ of Labour Against the Witchhunt (LAW), a group started in 2017 to campaign against what it believed to be politically motivated allegations of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party.

The proposed criteria for a ban includes participation in an event the group has hosted or organised – meaning it will impact more people than simply ‘members’ of the four groups.

Resist along with Labour Against Witchhunt have claimed the anti-Semitism allegations were politically motivated, a claim condemned by others in the party.

Labour in Exile was set up for members that are suspended or expelled, and Socialist Appeal is a communist group which runs a newspaper of the same name.

Banning Momentum, which now has thousands of members, is also reportedly not on the cards.

A Momentum spokesperson said: “At a time when the Tory Government is allowing the pandemic to rip through the country, the Labour leadership has once again turned inwards, creating a vacuum where real opposition is needed and distracting from the task of delivering a Labour Government.

“The auto-expulsion of members that share this ambition and our Party’s values only strengthens the Tories. We oppose guilt by association. The Labour Party has always been home to a wide range of political traditions and we have a responsibility to work with each other to build support for socialist ideas and policies.”

Alex Falconer, a film director and member of the Socialist Appeal group, had already been kicked out of the party on the 11th June, with the party claiming he could no longer remain a member of Labour while supporting the left-wing faction.

Jennifer Forbes, Labour Parliamentary Candidate for the Truro & Falmouth constituency in 2019, defended Falconer after his expulsion, writing: “Alex Falconer has already made an enormous contribution to the Labour Party. He was very active in both 2017 & 2018 elections. The legacy of his legendary nightly canvassing in Falmouth undoubtedly laid the groundwork to return two unitary councillors in Falmouth this year.

“The Labour Party should be a broadchurch that welcomes such dedicated activism. Being a socialist, should not be a reason for expulsion from the Labour Party.”

Euan Philipps, spokesperson for Labour Against Antisemitism, said: “We welcome the Labour Party’s plan to proscribe these four groups, who represent some of the most extreme elements of the antisemitic Hard Left.

“Over recent years they have promoted anti-Jewish views, encouraged a toxic environment for Jewish party members and hampered attempts to tackle antisemitism. Members of these groups have previously even threatened our activists to the extent that police involvement was required. We therefore believe it is appropriate that they are banned from any future Labour Party involvement.”

National president of the bakers’ union, Ian Hodson, and film maker, Ken Loach, are among those who may be expelled this Tuesday.

perhaps the former might be tempted to say that the rightward direction the party has taken under Kieth wasn't meeting his kneads.

Do admire this fuckery. We should've purged the likes of progress when we had the chance. But much of the right had Trot and Stalinist pasts, ironically enough.

how many active members have they got left now? It certainly can't be the 400k + a gs returns. I'm guessing not that many plus 30 000 Babs entryists just waiting for her star to rise again.

It seems, at least, open to challenge whether you can kick members out for prior support of organisations that were not proscribed at the time.

The fact that they’re talking about ‘up to 1000’ people across four groups suggests that most had left already.

Don't know about this one but the ppl screaming about vandalism voted tactically or not Corbyn in 2019

This is indeed vandalism - archaeology, history, arts, entertainment …..the list keeps getting longer. It is short sighted and philistine #bonfireofthehumanities https://t.co/mLv23cKHXx

— Michael Wood (@mayavision) July 21, 2021

Kinda like Wood but assume he's a huge melt

Yup think so too

The guy that valued education had two passes at A-level not the guy that knows classical Greek

https://news.sky.com/story/five-tory-mps-breached-code-of-conduct-by-trying-to-influence-elphicke-sex-assault-trial-committee-rules-12360356

One day suspension, that'll teach 'em.

Only for three of them though

So naive.

I think it was a fairly difficult decision as I don’t want a precedent to be set for socialist groupings within the party - but these groups are really not socialist

— Lara McNeill (@lara_eleanor) July 20, 2021

idk if she’s can even be described as ‘naive’ if she’s also recognising that there was no justification for proscribing Socialist Appeal but the panel went ahead and voted for it anyway,

expelling ken loach may not be exactly great ops as far as a lot of long-standing members are concerned, but of course kieth & co dngaf

Starmer self-isolating.

clever ^

Nurses get 3% increase due to their "hard work and selfless in the day to day care and the other could have been a massive relief to me and to the patients with the Live support and support team to help you with"

Greta Thunberg
Radiohead
Ken Clarke
Jess Phillips
Gina Miller
Led By Donkeys
Carole Cadwalladr
Bonnie Greer
Hannah Miller (Granada Reports)
Samira Ahmed
Robin Askwith

was thinking yesterday about how all comedians are fucking melts, this is Stewart Lee's list of political heroes on his site from those heady days of 2019 when the decision for lots of comfortably well off FBPE type people seemingly was a stark choice between god knows what and anyone but that bloody Crobyn!

finding out Lee's a Babs stan has completely finished him off for me. That's even worse than Morecambe + Wise admitting that Hitler was quite a sensible chap really.

I don’t care how much noise he listens to he’s fucking basic

Stewart Lee really wrote that??

I am surprised.

It's not a parody?

lol googling reveals there's a cookd and bombd thread full of ppl distraught by that list, didn't think that forum would be left enough to understand the evils of Philips, Led By Donkeys et al.

https://www.stewartlee.co.uk/2019/12/mx2019-hny2020-to-all-from-the-metro-lib-elite-desk-of-stewart-lee/

the page that's on ends with 'quotes' including one from Helen Lewis.

going to London tomorrow, might buy some flowers.

This has appeared outside Giles Coren’s house. pic.twitter.com/bGdYbjRGbF

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) July 21, 2021

Another useless detail I learned about the world of comedy wankers is that Giles Coren is David Mitchell's brother-in-law!

Yes, and Laurence Fox is Richard Ayoade's brother in law.

my challops which will probably be not at all a challops on here is that Victoria Coren-Mitchell isn't funny or interesting, just sort of smug and pedantic

lol googling reveals there's a cookd and bombd thread full of ppl distraught by that list, didn't think that forum would be left enough to understand the evils of Philips, Led By Donkeys et al.

― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:48 AM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

"Distraught" is a massive exaggeration. The main reactions seemed to be either "FFS, Stew" or "Probably just part of a show he's doing or something."

Apart from a few obvious trolls, C&B has never been a right-leaning forum so fuck knows why you'd think otherwise.

xp

I honestly don't even know who she is. Is she a star of R4 comedy or something?

She is Alan Coren's daughter / Giles Coren's sister / David Mitchell's wife, she has a very popular gameshow on TV and appears on lots of other things like panel shows, people seem to like her for some reason

She seems to have fans on here but I don't see it myself. Their father was probably the smuggest man who ever lived.

(xp)

A lot of ILXors swear by Only Connect, which she presents, in fact I think an ILXor has even appeared on it!

Apart from a few obvious trolls, C&B has never been a right-leaning forum so fuck knows why you'd think otherwise.

I did not expect it to lean right wing but I did expect it to lean melt because, as stated before by calz, that's what 90% of UK comedians are.

The whole Coren son being a massive cunt does hide from his dad being part of this broadsheet vermin class this country was full of before the internet's attempts to kill newspapers.

Here is the wiki entry on his books:

"Coren published about twenty books during his life, many of which were collections of his newspaper columns,[1] such as Golfing for Cats and The Cricklewood Diet.

From 1976 to 1983 he wrote the Arthur series of children's books.[1]

One of his most successful books, The Collected Bulletins of Idi Amin (a collection of his Punch articles about Amin) was rejected for publication in the United States on the grounds of racial sensitivity.[1][5] These Bulletins were later made into a comedy album, The Collected Broadcasts of Idi Amin with the actor John Bird. After the Tanzanian capture of Kampala in 1979 the American journalist Art Barrett discovered a copy of Coren's book on Idi Amin's bedside table.[10]

Coren's other books include The Dog It Was That Died (1965), The Sanity Inspector (1974), All Except The Bastard (1978), The Lady from Stalingrad Mansions (1978), Rhinestone as Big as the Ritz (1979), Tissues for Men (1981), Bumf (1984), Seems Like Old Times: a Year in the Life of Alan Coren (1989), More Like Old Times (1990), A Year in Cricklewood (1991), Toujours Cricklewood? (1993), Alan Coren's Sunday Best (1993), A Bit on the Side (1995), Alan Coren Omnibus (1996), The Cricklewood Dome (1998), The Cricklewood Tapestry (2002) and Waiting for Jeffrey (2002).[1][6][7] Coren's final book, 69 For One, was published late in 2007.[1]"

Only Connect sounds like the type of tv show where it would have to be like the aversion therapy scene in Clockwork Orange for me to watch it!

Remember thumbing thru one of his books in a charity shop once, looked shite & it had a foreword from one or both of the kids explaining that all the racism was fine actually - fuck all of them tbh

I was on Only Connect, as was erstwhile ilxor ailsa iirc. Victoria C was perfectly charming and likeable irl, obv her brother is a cunt and her husband is a different kind of cunt. I'm also on record as finding Alan Coren's punch stuff deeply hilarious when I was about 12, idk I was a strange kid. OC is a good quiz in parts but doesn't do much for me as a TV show nowadays tbh

VCM
> appears on lots of other things like panel shows

and celeb gogglebox if the 30 seconds i saw on friday is to be believed

Celeb Gogglebox had a bunch of culture war cunts last time I saw two minutes of it. All TV panel shows make an excellent argument for the immediate destruction of western culture, obv

Wow, I knew ailsa was on it, her being a massive quizzer and all, but I didn't know NV had been on it, wtf! I would have watched! btw ailsa still shows up on ILX occasionally to join in the lamentations over Celtic.