"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

Frankie Boyle is also an unfunny wanker.

it's the hypocrisy of Boyle I can't stand. If your whole schtick is based on punching down for lolz and you're happy to accept payment to produce a column for The Sun every week then you don't really get to turn round and criticise the Government for right-wing policies.

yet New World Order was probably the wokiest thing on wokey wokerama BBC Woke last year

"Freedom Day is just the latest in a long list of slogans not backed up by policy."

Kieth is now the official leader of the opposition against himself.

If your whole schtick is based on punching down for lolz

except it's not?!

it's true that i've seen him do some homophobic jokes in the past and that turned me against him for a long time. from what i can tell he's changed on that. but trust me i do understand feeling skeptical of him. i had no idea he had a column for the sun. that sucks too.

I enjoyed his "walking around Scotland a bit" series

He says, and writes, funny things but he isn't funny. Is my take on Frankie Boyle.

if doing mocking routines about people with down's syndrome and autism isn't punching down then I perhaps need punching down explaining to me. I know this is old stuff but it all adds to the broad perspective of what a deeply unpleasant wanker he is.

some might say that's all part of his edgy uncompromising schtick, yet he sidled up with all his melt comedy pals in the anti-Corbyn campaign. So ultimately he's quite establishment compliant and conservative underneath the act.

I think he was reasonably sympathetic to Corbz? Politically I think he is to the left of him!

yet New World Order was probably the wokiest thing on wokey wokerama BBC Woke last year

Attacking Corbyn with the right hand, having Tribune writers on with the left.

Isn't he an SNP supporter? Therefore he could be almost anywhere on the political spectrum.

I think this probably the most Corb- sympathetic op-ed the Guardian has ever published!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/19/frankie-boyle-jeremy-corbyn-elected-destroyed-murdoch

xp

your not going to tell me I imagined that NWO ep where he slated him as an anti-Semite and said he was soft on austerity? cos I did see it and have very good and long memory of useless ephemera like this!

I think he was reasonably sympathetic to Corbz? Politically I think he is to the left of him!

We've had this convo in a UK politics thread before but calz is right: Boyle circa 2019 was doing the same "oh labour is a shambles" shtick as everyone else and, while I always feel the need to give the disclaimer that it's not like there weren't good points to be made regarding anti-semitism in labour having David fucking Baddiel on and not questioning any of the received wisdom on it....is not that. Within that context "pfft they're not even that left wing" is an obvious bad faith move.

Without wanting to be Cap'n Save-a-Boyle kind of disagree - this is 2019 on the eve of the election and again pretty sympathetic to Corbyn, while acknowledging the doomed if noble nature of his leadership

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/07/frankie-boyle-election-countdown-praying-prorogue-next-parliament

I can accept that he may have vacillated and changed his mind on the topic but here, this isn't even the episode I saw but it's the same fucking bullshit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm72o3iJpKY

talk is cheap and worthless when you've already done your bit to undermine Corbyn imo

https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/standupcomedyarchive/files/2017/05/RedWedgeTour_PorkyPoetCartoon-768x1082.jpg

check out this garbage cartoon by Porky the Poet (aka Phil Jupitus) from the Red Wedge era when comedians rallied around Neil fuckin Kinnock!

NEW: In meeting with Labour staff, I’m told David Evans has said the party’s poor financial state is due to lost members and dealing with antisemitism cases. Reserves now down to one month’s payroll. Voluntary severance offered to all NEC-funded staff.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) July 20, 2021

time for that sickos "ha ha yes" picture

When someone in the entertainment world uses their platform - however big or small it is - to attack the best Labour candidate the UK had for 70+ years and the only hope to stop decades of a right wing tory elective dictatorship. Then fuck what the cunt writes anywhere to try and clarify his position or whatever imo

lol that cartoon is a marvel in every regard

still no evil billionaires want to bankroll the Labour Party - that's the only actual true symptom of Long Corbynism!

donors from the edge of space

I agree with Calzino.

NEC to Major Tom.

not to be too Lex about it, but Jupitus is one of those "comedians" who has never said a funny thing in his life, and on top of that is a shill for McDonalds

KS is running Labour into the ground financially.

If he's actually trying to succeed in some way, then it's hard to explain.

phil jupitus is the britpop rory mcgrath

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/deeb7f34-b7b0-42d4-9989-fcde4aaec563/scale-to-width-down/400

(lr) Jupitus, McGrath.

I know this cunt is 21 but the leadership will find these levels of excuses to keep going.

Yeah, and they pissed it away - Labour Live was a major drain on the party, as was legal fees accrued because the party couldn't stop it's members engaging in libel or antisemitism. Corbyn managed to fuck the finances and leave Starmer as the last Emperor of Rome

— Seóirse Duffy (@SeoirseDuffy_) July 20, 2021

lol imagine being a staunch Starmer apologist/supporter and having to concoct narratives that portray him as a decent, put upon leader, cleaning up the mess that Corbz left behind i.e. nearly three quarter of a million paying members, biggest political party in Europe etc..

.. and a leader of the opposition that Boris doesn't mind. Certainly wants him around for the next General Election..

last year some Tory was quoted saying "he's the Roy Cropper of politics" which proved to be a gross overestimation of his abilities. But aside from the tedious PMQ encounters with Boris they don't really go for his jugular because obv they fear anyone else might be more of a threat to them come the next GE.

Given how much Corbyn was offered for his legal defence against Jessie Ware's Dad alone, yeah, this ain't it.

His what against what?

I'm too hot and bothered to even look it up but it's summat to do with the Panorama doc on Labour anti-semitism and perhaps Jermy also said Jessie Ware's last album wasn't as good as devotion or tough love!

Jessie Ware’s dad is that twat who did the antisemitism Panorama.

MPs just voted on Priti Patel's horrific Nationality and Borders Bill.

It criminalises boats rescuing people at sea and attacks refugee rights, violating our 70-year commitment to the Refugee Convention.

I voted against it. Not a single Tory MP did the same. Heartless.

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) July 20, 2021

wow ... Labour actually opposed this bill

Labour's John McDonnell has just accused some MPs in the immigration debate of giving speeches more suited to an English Defence League meeting.

— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) July 20, 2021

Meanwhile, the purging of the left continues:

https://leftfootforward.org/2021/07/why-ken-loach-could-be-expelled-from-the-labour-party-tomorrow/

Certain left-wing groups are set to be proscribed from the Labour Party, as Sir Keir Starmer pushes to get rid of “toxic extremism”.

National president of the bakers’ union, Ian Hodson, and film maker, Ken Loach, are among those who may be expelled this Tuesday.

Labour wants to proscribe Socialist Appeal, Labour in Exile Network, Labour Against the Witchhunt and Resist, with the decision being made on Tuesday 20 July at the National Executive Committee (NEC) meeting.

If the proposal is approved, which is expected given the pro-Starmer NEC majority, anyone supporting these groups will be automatically expelled from Labour.

Unlike the past approach of assessing individuals to get rid of Militant members, the party has decided it will automatically kick members out if they support these groups.

Ken Loach and Ian Hodson could both be expelled because they are official ‘sponsors’ of Labour Against the Witchhunt (LAW), a group started in 2017 to campaign against what it believed to be politically motivated allegations of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party.

The proposed criteria for a ban includes participation in an event the group has hosted or organised – meaning it will impact more people than simply ‘members’ of the four groups.

Resist along with Labour Against Witchhunt have claimed the anti-Semitism allegations were politically motivated, a claim condemned by others in the party.

Labour in Exile was set up for members that are suspended or expelled, and Socialist Appeal is a communist group which runs a newspaper of the same name.

Banning Momentum, which now has thousands of members, is also reportedly not on the cards.

A Momentum spokesperson said: “At a time when the Tory Government is allowing the pandemic to rip through the country, the Labour leadership has once again turned inwards, creating a vacuum where real opposition is needed and distracting from the task of delivering a Labour Government.

“The auto-expulsion of members that share this ambition and our Party’s values only strengthens the Tories. We oppose guilt by association. The Labour Party has always been home to a wide range of political traditions and we have a responsibility to work with each other to build support for socialist ideas and policies.”

Alex Falconer, a film director and member of the Socialist Appeal group, had already been kicked out of the party on the 11th June, with the party claiming he could no longer remain a member of Labour while supporting the left-wing faction.

Jennifer Forbes, Labour Parliamentary Candidate for the Truro & Falmouth constituency in 2019, defended Falconer after his expulsion, writing: “Alex Falconer has already made an enormous contribution to the Labour Party. He was very active in both 2017 & 2018 elections. The legacy of his legendary nightly canvassing in Falmouth undoubtedly laid the groundwork to return two unitary councillors in Falmouth this year.

“The Labour Party should be a broadchurch that welcomes such dedicated activism. Being a socialist, should not be a reason for expulsion from the Labour Party.”

Euan Philipps, spokesperson for Labour Against Antisemitism, said: “We welcome the Labour Party’s plan to proscribe these four groups, who represent some of the most extreme elements of the antisemitic Hard Left.

“Over recent years they have promoted anti-Jewish views, encouraged a toxic environment for Jewish party members and hampered attempts to tackle antisemitism. Members of these groups have previously even threatened our activists to the extent that police involvement was required. We therefore believe it is appropriate that they are banned from any future Labour Party involvement.”

National president of the bakers’ union, Ian Hodson, and film maker, Ken Loach, are among those who may be expelled this Tuesday.

perhaps the former might be tempted to say that the rightward direction the party has taken under Kieth wasn't meeting his kneads.

Do admire this fuckery. We should've purged the likes of progress when we had the chance. But much of the right had Trot and Stalinist pasts, ironically enough.

how many active members have they got left now? It certainly can't be the 400k + a gs returns. I'm guessing not that many plus 30 000 Babs entryists just waiting for her star to rise again.

It seems, at least, open to challenge whether you can kick members out for prior support of organisations that were not proscribed at the time.

The fact that they’re talking about ‘up to 1000’ people across four groups suggests that most had left already.

Don't know about this one but the ppl screaming about vandalism voted tactically or not Corbyn in 2019

This is indeed vandalism - archaeology, history, arts, entertainment …..the list keeps getting longer. It is short sighted and philistine #bonfireofthehumanities https://t.co/mLv23cKHXx

— Michael Wood (@mayavision) July 21, 2021

Kinda like Wood but assume he's a huge melt

Yup think so too

The guy that valued education had two passes at A-level not the guy that knows classical Greek