Finally Rich - Chief Keef

Thinking about joe's posts is driving me nuts lol. "stayed in the pocket" he invented the fucking pocket

lmao he shouldve stayed in it after he invented it

in all seriousness i do respect the way keef has been out there doing his art but i prefer the early stuff

new song is a banger tho, it's true

hes def had some nice songs the only ones i can say i actively dislike are from his owl city period

in all seriousness i do respect the way keef has been out there doing his art but i prefer the early stuff

― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:51 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

the stuff casual fans like, the dont like and love sosas etc., that stuff is iconic but definitely not his best stuff. its also not the stuff uzi, 21, carti, etc. built their sounds off of. its not surprising ppl undervalue his influence when they dont even know the records. but yea, his tapes after finally rich are way way better than the stuff "most people" know.

Also among actual rap fans its the records from the mid-later period that are most well known these days anyway...faneto, earned it, text, my baby, facts, kills, those are more iconic singles at this point ... and tapes like bang2, almightyso, back from the dead 2, nobody, dedication are >>> finally rich. they're not 'weird experiments,' everyone needs to stop biting 8 year old noz tweets, they're just great rap projects, w more ideas per song than the average stretched-too-thing-recorded-too-long pain rap tape today

the shit that rips off that period -- 'we dem boyz' type music -- is the fuckin worst

i assume by 'owl city period' you mean thot breaker which is a dope tape, just corny bc it got twee pitchfork support & is somehow his highest rated album. its not bad at all though, there are classic tracks on it

*stretched-too-thin-recorded-too-long pain rap tape

**the shit that rips off the finally rich early period -- we dem boyz type music -- is the fuckin worst

 among actual rap fans

hope to meet one someday

so like does he rap off beat on purpose

just to go back 7 years in the convo

deej does deserve his victory lap, keef did become as influential as he predicted, not that's he's one for "I told you so's"

lol

True it’s important ilx maintains condescension levels

I was being serious except for the last line

you were right and we (or I specifically) was wrong! he ended up being that important

"they're not 'weird experiments,(...) they're just great rap projects"

This is not mutually exclusive. BFTD2 is weird.
Keef has also a huge influence on hyperpop.

Feel like you’re misunderstanding me — of course they’re creative & experimental but not imo in some way that’s somehow exceptional to rap artists when they’re in a creative zone generally. The exception w him is id say the frequency of the ideas, there’s room for a lot more variation & surprise as a result.

What joe said was “I do respect the way he’s out there doing his art” before dismissing that art out of hand, I think ppl tend to stigmatize stuff as weird that isn’t like … outsider art or some shit. It’s redefined the boundaries of the genre, of what is considered “normal”

i domt see how you can say his later work is more influential when there are literal english making right drill music mate, ALSO idk why i am the one being attacked here when i have always been supportive of keefs artistic flights of fancy

i even like his aggressively avant garde work that only ticktok teens can understand but still i prob wouldve enjoyed a more direct career trajectory from bang through finally rich and so on, theres def an interesting path not chosen there, particularly i really like how he used his voice early on, in some ways he became a more conventional rapper after that, somewhat compensating by adopting a loosey goosey style

UK drill & NY drill were initially impacted by Keef in obvious ways (ie the first GS9 tape has flips of Keef's post-Finally Rich song "Pull Up") but the main blueprint for the sound is Lil Herb & Bibby's "Kill Shit." Which in Chicago was kind of a brief window / angle of the sound around DJ L's production.

The way in which Keef's post-Finally Rich sound was influential is much more around Bang 2 & the loosies from that 2013-2015 period, and its influence isn't so much on 'drill' the way its conceived in ny/uk as much as rappers like uzi, kodak, 21, xxx, playboi carti, et al

imo he made his voice *more* interesting not less after "Finally Rich" -- on FR he was doing that style where his voice casually rides the beat, sounds like Gucci Mane but his voice pops more to the front of the speaker where Gucci was kind of demur. But then he did that looser more aggressive attack & that's when his voice became way more malleable & started experimenting w/ darker melodies & textures & IMO showed much more the possibilities for vocal stylings that other artists picked up and ran off with

new song is titanically great, goddamn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f36hvoQ-bCs

https://hiphopdx.com/news/chief-keef-finally-rich-10th-anniversary-reissue

aoty

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— El Sol Sale Pa Todos (@frijoliz) December 5, 2022

the feeling is back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dDBzZ1_XYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cql3XELoam4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4XT91tUmU

posted briefly in the other keef thread, on third listen... aoty

could easily list 10 or so highlights for this one. "neph nem," "grape trees," "treat myself," "i'm tryna sleep," "believe," "drifting away"

all self-produced too

lol @ chief sosa made drill, kanye think he did too

ha yeah i've been playing "drifting away" enough for the past 24 hours or so that my wife is already like "this fuckin song again"

7000 square feet n**** come from a damn cubicle!

almighty so 2 is amazing but dirty nachos was just as good imo don’t sleep on it

dirty nachos was a lot of fun, production is not on the same level tho.

he raps his ass off on both, to be sure

this is cool

Chief Keef sat down for an extremely rare interview with Zane Lowe to promote Almighty So 2.

Now 29, Sosa discusses what it was like to blow up at 16 years old and how his life has changed since. Beautiful to see. pic.twitter.com/WfuPP9Sxmq

— Andrew Barber (@fakeshoredrive) May 9, 2024

I'm mad keen to hear the new one if it's a return to his best form.

"drifting away" is incredible. i love how he references cash money, cam'ron, gucci & kanye. the first time i was listening to it before he shouts out kanye's beats it was making me think of "let the beat build," which is ofc a kanye beat. anyway keef is a pivotal figure in the history of rap and i love that despite being positioned by a lot of people w/ in rap culture as a destroyer of all things sacred he actually knows his artistic lineage better than a lot of his critics do.

truck sit up like a cowboy
i think i got more cars than every member of the hot boys
and we got broomsticks, hogwarts
and i ain't worried about the opps we don't fly the same airport

insanely good rapping on this song

first couple listens i thought he was saying he wanted to beat kanye's ass