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I don't really know much about Burton and was surprised how pop-oriented much of his production work is. But I did find this crazy accurate interview quote from a couple of years back:

... bands you’re highly motivated to work with because of their back catalogue?

“Have you heard of the band Low? They’ve never written a bad song. They put out an acoustic album and I had this vision of pushing them to make the most beautiful, distorted, post-apocalyptic record – the sort of thing you’d find 2,000 years ago if you dug the earth up. We made that record and it’s one of the favourite albums I’ve ever made.”

It looks like he posted a bunch to this thread about the making of Double Negative:


This is a good summation:

I got a lot of **** from mastering engineers, so I ended up mastering it myself...those guys are so scared. but if it sounds good, and the soul is there, then it will translate. no rules

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:33 (one year ago) link

From that interview I learned that Alan uses a lot of Red Panda's Particle pedal, which, when you hear this ...yeah:

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 July 2021 21:35 (one year ago) link

I don't really know much about Burton and was surprised how pop-oriented much of his production work is.

apart from his work with Low, he's probably best known for being part of Bon Iver's inner circle, co-writing & playing a ton of stuff on their last two albums & occasionally being a touring member

his work on last year's Charli album was fantastic & full of the noise he's known for with Low. the Japanese House album was also excellent

i wanna hear him work with Lambchop next, he'd be really well aligned with their direction the last few albums

ufo, Friday, 9 July 2021 03:42 (one year ago) link

This is pretty great, taking some of the strands of Double Negative and running with them. it has a distinctly different mood but with mostly the same toolbox. "Hey" is the big standout to me so far, it's beautiful

Vinnie, Friday, 9 July 2021 09:57 (one year ago) link

Also yeah, between Charli, Japanese House, and Low, I've loved every Burton production that I've heard

Vinnie, Friday, 9 July 2021 11:02 (one year ago) link

I'd forgotten all about Charli XCX, I'll have to check that out. Looks like Burton has produced a ton of stuff I've never even heard of. The Empress Of, Kacy Hill, Banks, Francis and the Lights ... I can only imagine that some of these things sound cool, too, but the problem is that they're not Low, so odds are they are nowhere near as good as Low.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 July 2021 12:48 (one year ago) link

(burton also produced the upcoming kacey musgraves record)

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 9 July 2021 12:51 (one year ago) link

!! Now that gets my attention.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 July 2021 13:01 (one year ago) link


I hope the closer on this one portends the sound of the next one the way "disarray" sort of ended up doing. I am ready for an all-doomy-bangers Low album with Burton on board.

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 9 July 2021 13:04 (one year ago) link

(burton also produced the upcoming kacey musgraves record)


diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 9 July 2021 16:01 (one year ago) link

I'm having a hard time emotionally right now deliberating over whether to just listen to the leak already or not. Just tell me it's okay because I plan on buying the record when it's out, okay?

octobeard, Friday, 9 July 2021 16:42 (one year ago) link

relistening to double negative to whet my appetite since i'm still undecided on the leak. "always up" might be one of the most beautiful songs of all time

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 9 July 2021 17:32 (one year ago) link

any of y'all feeling guilty and weird about the leak spotify users by any chance? lmao

just listen to it and then buy it when it comes out!

maelin, Friday, 9 July 2021 18:06 (one year ago) link

i mean, i already bought the album. for me it's more about wanting to blast my ears out on the hifi with FLACs rather than the dodgy mp3 leak

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 9 July 2021 18:29 (one year ago) link

I wouldn't worry about that, this album sometimes sounds like your stereo has been pre-busted.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 July 2021 18:39 (one year ago) link

paradoxically it's my experience that noize and productions that are made to 'sound like shit' are the ones to suffer most from mp3 encoding. out of curiosity, i took a look at the spectrograms from double negative to see what kind of imperceptible musical info it was throwing away. here's a comparison of flac vs 320 cbr mp3 for tempest.

i don't want to derail the thread into a lossless vs lossy argument, just an interesting observation i wanted to share.

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 9 July 2021 20:14 (one year ago) link

OMFG at "Hey".

Tim F, Saturday, 10 July 2021 01:00 (one year ago) link

“Hey” >>> “Days Like These” 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Mind blown!!!

vinyljunkie, Saturday, 10 July 2021 19:11 (one year ago) link

wow i had no idea burton was working on the kacey musgraves album, that's super exciting

i found an interview where burton said he did some stuff with dj quik in 2019, which he described as his dream collaboration, really hope that sees the light of day

ufo, Sunday, 11 July 2021 13:44 (one year ago) link

i noticed something kinda weird. everytime i listen to the stuttering outro to white horses, it sounds like its at a different pitch..??? anyone else experiencing this? super fascinating illusion

maelin, Thursday, 15 July 2021 19:03 (one year ago) link

The notes slowly increase in pitch if that's what you mean. But as a whole the outro sounds the same each time I listen

Vinnie, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:10 (one year ago) link

that outro sounds like a Lindstrom mix gearing up or something

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:25 (one year ago) link

i just felt like every time i've had the record on they've resolved differently, maybe something to do with the harmonic interval, or maybe just my busted old ears.

maelin, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:48 (one year ago) link

is that what variable bitrate means? :-D

StanM, Friday, 16 July 2021 04:34 (one year ago) link


7:00 PT | 9:00 CT | 15:00 BST pic.twitter.com/BAQSpG05oP

— Sub Pop Records (@subpop) July 19, 2021

StanM, Monday, 19 July 2021 16:25 (one year ago) link

ok ok - it's maybe not them but they retweeted it and they were going to release some more songs from the album during the Summer

StanM, Monday, 19 July 2021 16:26 (one year ago) link

so, the new bass player is Liz?


StanM, Monday, 19 July 2021 16:32 (one year ago) link

Right. Disappearing is coming out tomorrow and that tweet screenshot IS from the video.

StanM, Monday, 19 July 2021 16:41 (one year ago) link


StanM, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 14:29 (one year ago) link

amazing video

i'm so excited for this album

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 14:42 (one year ago) link

"Disappearing" was not a song that caught me much so far but it works great with those visuals

Vinnie, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 11:45 (one year ago) link

Did anyone ever buy that Japanese Double Negative for the bonus track? I heard it on a radio show, that bonus track, but I'd love to have a CD rip of it without paying 50 bucks for the one song.

whisper3978, Monday, 2 August 2021 03:15 (one year ago) link

you should be able to find it, "it's all been done", on soulseek

ufo, Monday, 2 August 2021 03:44 (one year ago) link

Damn, you weren't messing around. I haven't used Soulseek for 15 years, but right there it was. Appreciate your help, ufo.

whisper3978, Monday, 2 August 2021 04:13 (one year ago) link

Today is the 25th anniversary of 'The Curtain Hits the Cast.'

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Saturday, 14 August 2021 01:18 (one year ago) link

How they made More (single coming out next week)


StanM, Saturday, 14 August 2021 08:47 (one year ago) link

it's for certain / i never thought i'd last / i never thought the sea would try

maelin, Saturday, 14 August 2021 11:39 (one year ago) link

That pedal chain is awesome but, phew, probably $1300 of boutique box effects.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 August 2021 12:19 (one year ago) link

still can't get over how good the guitar on "white horses" is

ufo, Sunday, 15 August 2021 04:35 (one year ago) link

have been going through rarities i'd never heard before and wow "half light" sure is unique in their catalogue. kinda reminds me of songs of faith and devotion?

ufo, Sunday, 15 August 2021 04:42 (one year ago) link

oh yeah, that Mothman Prophecies OST thing, right - hadn't heard that in a long time. you're not wrong!

StanM, Sunday, 15 August 2021 06:37 (one year ago) link


StanM, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:09 (one year ago) link

that's an interesting video -- all fake, plastic, manufactured tools and items, but with real human force to drive them to use them, all for nothing

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:13 (one year ago) link

I had to go look up The Knife's Handyman video to see how similar I remember it being (not very)

StanM, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:45 (one year ago) link

Exploring Peter Rehberg's catalog since I had only heard a few things over the years, this song reminds me too much of Double Negative (specifically the noisy part of "Tempest") not to share here:


cwkiii, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 17:19 (one year ago) link


Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 19:32 (one year ago) link


nice interview, alan thinks 100 gecs are great

ufo, Thursday, 2 September 2021 10:01 (one year ago) link

nice boots

micah, Thursday, 2 September 2021 12:35 (one year ago) link

Only one more week. I've put off listening to anything form this so far, after Double Negative I want to wait and savor the whole thing.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 September 2021 12:36 (one year ago) link

didnt realize theyd lost their bass player? i liked steve!

maelin, Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:11 (one year ago) link

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