Fleetwood Mac: Classic or Dud

Wasup with these new "demos" singles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xdOzAm78gM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx8UZgg5TtI

Never liked "Go Your Own Way" even a little bit, but I did spend most of a recent day re-remembering how colossal "The Chain" is and comparing live versions to see which one extended the coda the longest, helped along by my younger (27) roommate's enthusiasm. Mac love ain't going nowhere.

xpost I have no idea why they were released, but both those songs are from the Tusk era and appear on the Live album, and apparently haven't been performed or released since.

Huh, I guess "Fireflies" was released as a live single? Peaked at number 60.

go your own way is top 5 for me, its the christine mcvie songs i mostly cant stand. have always hated don't stop, oh daddy and songbird from that album. you make lovin fun can stay though.

the demo tracks come from the recent box set reissue of the sublime 1980 Live album, which also has an accompanying bonus CD of live tracks from 1975-82

"Oh Daddy" is the least interesting song on the album, but "Songbird" is so well sung and so poised that I can't toss it, especially when my experience hearing the live versions deepens the studio cut.

I'm surprised at how deceiving "Hold Me" is as an elevator tune. It's actually quite good.

Any other latter day FM tunes people recommend?

All of them?

At least all the singles from Mirage and Tango in the Night.

Wow this latest single from Lindsay Buckingham is GOOD.

Been in a dadrock funk lately, searching out 90s-style mellowism...

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uEM6eO93iY

It was a different one, popped up on my Spotify recommends and was gonna sjip it, but this is fresh...

Also I am really liking Haim's cover of "Hold Me".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVhr1fNG_ik

especially since they based their sound from 2013-2017 on "Seven Wonders."

Rest In Peace Christine McVie pic.twitter.com/sJwlqgsBLw

— Christine McVie (@christine_mcvie) November 30, 2022

As shared in the Obituary thread, seeing reports that Christine McView passed away. I'm skeptical of Twitter these days, but this was also posted on what purports to be her Instagram as well (though I'll not that neither are verified).

official mac twitter has also put out a statement

god just utterly devastated

Yeah, this feels genuinely shocking.

The posts are mirrored on both her's and the band's Facebook pages which are verified, so I believe it to be real.

One of my favorite voices, simply beautiful. RIP.

Incredible, the true secret weapon of the band even during the Buckingham/Nicks industrial complex era. She wrote so many amazing songs on the five LP preceding their breakthrough on the 1975 self-titled, enough to make up a classic album of her own.

Terrible news, what a voice and what a talent. RIP.

Such a unique bluesy voice <3 I need to get around to listening to the Chicken Shack records she’s on.

That Christine Perfect album is one of my all time favorites.

Sounds silly to call her underrated in some respects, but given how much attention's given to the others, she really is. After Green left and before Buckingham and Nicks joined, she was singing and composing by far their best material, and even when they blew up into superstars, I think she was neck-and-neck with Buckingham as the group's best songwriter. (I like Nicks, any group's lucky to have her aboard, but I think McVie and Buckingham were creating better material.)

Fuck no! My favorite member of FM.

God, this is affecting me in a way that Prince/Bowie/George Michael etc. didn't.

Something about the way her melodies worked with her voice always gets me. Laid back but huge.

Something about the way her melodies worked with her voice always gets me. Laid back but huge.

Absolutely. This may sound a bit gooey, but the first time I heard "Say You Love Me" and "You Make Loving Fun" (would've been around high school) they seemed like the kind of thing you'd want to hear from your significant other.

just heard the news, oh shit

And she could rock!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_lpsYstCTQ

The way she harmonized with Buckingham was uncanny. perfectly suited to one another.

Love this one, also uptempo, originally from Mystery to Me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuXmDW1FO7I

You can make a great lost Christine McVie album from her best stuff outside of the Buckingham/Nicks years:

1. Spare Me a Little of Your Love
2. Remember Me
3. Dissatisfied
4. Did You Ever Love Me
5. The Way I Feel
6. Show Me a Smile
7. I'd Rather Go Blind (a cover recorded by her previous band, Chicken Shack)
8. Why
9. Heroes Are Hard to Find
10. Come a Little Bit Closer

(and yes Believe Me too!)

Show Me a Smile and Spare Me a Little of Your Love are so awesome. The former is a trial run for the latter, more pastoral and mysterious, Zeppelin could have killed this song on LZIII. The latter is bigger and more pop, pointing toward the future. My favorite is whichever I am listening to at the time.

I almost asked if this means Fleetwood Mac is functionally done, but then I caught myself and remembered that they already toured once without her. I guess a better question is whether this prompts Nicks to bury the hatchet with Buckingham, again, and continue riding the money train. You know, once more, for old times sake.

Re:"Everywhere"--This ad was a big deal in the UK almost ten years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfccMaskBWk

And Paramore has done it live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3HsSjS6n-k

Incredible version of Why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrFr4jB0quA

pic.twitter.com/shclwCGpuu

— Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) November 30, 2022

An early Cut Copy song supposedly sampled "Everywhere," but I thought this sneaky one from a few years back was as good a tribute a song could get without covering it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1LA2RQUx68

“Zap Zap”. Great track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1pNyM9bcm8

There’s also a song on in ghost colors that samples “over and over”

While we (I) are sort of off-track but still on track, I always thought this Beloved song was a clever tip of the hat to McVie Mac vibes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYyDoA4M9sY

I should add when Danny Kirwan passed away several years ago, "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" also came to mind. His guitar solo is BEAUTIFUL, and I think it shows more than anyone else, even John McVie and Mick Fleetwood, Kirwan would have flourished in the pop-era of Fleetwood Mac as much as the blues-rock era.

(obviously that wasn't going to happen since he didn't get along with the others and eventually had mental health issues, but had things been different...)

I bloody love that HAIM song that Stevie quotes.

Rest In Peace, beautiful lady.

Ah that Stevie note is heartbreaking

My favourite single Mac recording - the way she sings, and that heartbroken, beautiful final guitar solo, and the way it interacts with Christine's organ. Just the greatest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjEGeDf4p1M

That Stevie letter made me tear up a little.

RIP

Made me realize that when Stevie Nicks finally dies I will -- after the mockery has passed -- be totally devastated.

I just found out about this, RIP.

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