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Some of this new one does indeed sound like portishead/beak> producing... The Go! Team?

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

^^

that's not a bad description of the first few songs especially

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

I just realised Sault is an anagram of Tulsa

paolo, Friday, 23 July 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

New CLEO SOL album “mother” dropping tomorrow.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

wuuuut

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link

oh baby.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

Oh what a nice surprise. I still listen to Rose in the Dark a lot

willem, Thursday, 19 August 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

ya!!!

sean gramophone, Thursday, 19 August 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link

Oh wow 🙂

groovypanda, Thursday, 19 August 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

I had insomnia and listened to most of Mother at 4am NZ time. It’s more than an hour long, and probably my favourite album from the Sault camp. That title belonged to Rose in the Dark before that. It reminds me a little of a 1990s I Portishead record in places.

aphoristical, Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

still not available in the US even though band camp sent an email saying it was. Looking forward to it, Rose in the Dark is also my favorite Sault-related album.

akm, Thursday, 19 August 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

stunning album

monotony, Friday, 20 August 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

this is a delightful surprise

the outro to "don't let me fall" is so sublime wow

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 01:05 (two years ago) link

"build me up" is phenomenal

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 01:23 (two years ago) link

this is probably the very best album from this whole collective yet, really overflowing with generosity

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link

between all the sault albums and little simz and cleo's 2 albums i'm wondering if inflo ever has the time to sleep

monotony, Friday, 20 August 2021 03:35 (two years ago) link

the last michael kiwanuka album too

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link

Omg , 23

akm, Friday, 20 August 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link

every sound on this album is so good

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 09:08 (two years ago) link

Ok I’m excited for this one based on the comments on this thread so far.

Diving in.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 August 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

OMFG that first song just cured my hangover.

And the second song so far sounds so good too. How is it even possible that they keep making the fucking best music in such a short time span?

Inflo has grown so much as a producer. I’m surprised he’s not being picked by higher profile artists.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 August 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link

this is great. on one listen, i already prefer it to rose in the dark.

semi-related: what's a good jumping in point for kiwanuka's catalogue?

(also sidebar to that: he seems just about due for another record. i expect at least one more major inflo production before the year is out.)

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, 20 August 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

second listen now and when i first read this yesterday i was like BULLSHIT BRO NO WAY to this

this is probably the very best album from this whole collective yet,

― ufo, Thursday, August 19, 2021 7:22 PM

but uhm? like, maybe. and that's a strong maybe.

it reminds me of mama's gun.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, 20 August 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

this is too much of a single persona to lift me up the way the cast-of-several Sault albums work magic on my psyche, but I'm definately drawn in more than the last Cleo Sol album.

Citole Country (bendy), Friday, 20 August 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

upon finishing second listen:

[FREAKOUT POST PROPER]

i mean, for real: it reminds me of MAMA'S MOTHERFUCKING GUN. and favorably so. this year has been so fucking disappointing. in music, in life, in general. but this, even if my anticipation was high, still would have been top gear. and, yet again, this proves that the ones that really make your world turn are the ones you don't see coming whatsoever.

man. it has been so long since a new release came out that felt like such an instant classic. even the last couple of king krule albums were growers for me, but this just has that feel to it. i'm in no position to make such declarations, as my intake of new music has been at its cynically lowest point ever, but this is my favorite album of the year. easily.

[/FREAKOUT POST PROPER]

like my friend andy would say: hey, yeah, that's pretty good.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, 20 August 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

Rose in the Dark was my favourite and it still is, so far. This is too long, for a start. I'm still very keen on it.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 20 August 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

semi-related: what's a good jumping in point for kiwanuka's catalogue?

the last two are the ones co-produced by inflo and both are great

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

I should investigate his stuff too, which I probably wrote off as Mercury-prize bland fodder without ever actually listening to it.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 20 August 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

Build Me Up is incredible.

Am I the only one who can't square Cleo's solo songs with the fact that she's the lead on most Sault tracks? Cleo solo sounds very little like she does on the Sault records. Maybe she does and I have a blind ear on this.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 20 August 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link

her voice is typically more obscured in sault - usually processed a little, lower in the mix, and often multi-tracked or with additional backing vocalists

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link

hearing a lot of D'Angelo on this too, just as I did with some Sault tracks, most especially on B.A.B.E. from 5. Not really getting the Mama's Gun ref, tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtplyjQ7ytU

Xpost, cheers ufo.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 20 August 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link

Cleo's clearly a massive stoner though lol.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 21 August 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

Just call your next record 420, Cleo.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 21 August 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

reminds me a lot of sade at their most restrained

ufo, Saturday, 21 August 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link

excited to hear 'mother', Cleo sol is the queen of soothe, was getting tired of recommending her roses in the dark album to peeps

Swanswans, Saturday, 21 August 2021 08:58 (two years ago) link

this one's quite a significant step up, as good as rose in the dark was

ufo, Saturday, 21 August 2021 11:51 (two years ago) link

"the last two are the ones co-produced by inflo and both are great"

Kiwanuka (the last one) is an album I haven't stopped playing since I first heard it (late, about six months ago). I think it's just tremendous, one of the best albums of the past several years.

akm, Saturday, 21 August 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

I'm diverging from the hive mind here, wasn't really feeling this on first listen. Glad people are into it though, and that their prolific streak is still going.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

same? this isn't doing anything for me after two spins, gonna try once more. Feels weirdly new agey and asmr influenced.

My first impression was that it is a bit too mellow, but I need to give it more time.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

Personally, not liking it better than Rose in the Dark. Feels to me like it could lose a couple of songs to be tighter, not that I don’t like any song in particular, as they all sound great, but it feels a bit homogenic in some runs. It’s also a bit frontloaded imho as two of the standouts are the opening songs.

I’d probably lose “heart full of love” and “know that you are loved”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 21 August 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Funny, I had the same Erykah Badu feeing the first time I listened to it. Just played it again - on better speakers and with more focused attention - and that similarity feels a lot harder to track.

Anyway, I don’t love this record but I think that says more about my own taste than I does about Cleo’s ambition. I just don’t generally go for the jazzier side of this genre.

Funny, I think this is maybe too long overall BUT the best songs are the ones that stretch for 7-8 minutes, “Build Me Up” especially. Would love a record from her that is maybe just 8 tracks but still an hour long.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 21 August 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

Gonna stick my neck out and say it's pretty good. Reminds me a bit of the last Jessie Ware album in that the production is very reverential in parts (here it's Curtis/Marvin/Rotary/Roy Ayers rather than 70s/80s disco) but still its own thing. Plan is to listen on repeat for a week and then see where we're at.

in a bar, under the (seandalai), Saturday, 21 August 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link

Good plan, sean :)

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 21 August 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link

it's mellow but never boring, it's so beautiful & constantly surprising with interesting turns. i wouldn't cut anything either, the length feels generous rather than bloated.

ufo, Saturday, 21 August 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

So, a couple of listens in, I feel it's an album that will grow on me. My first impressions are that the emotional, self help lyrical content is a little underwhelming compared to 'roses in the dark' and feels a bit like treading old ground. The production lacks an edge of funk too that I feel the other album had, the retro organic instrument palette can be samey, as nice as it is. It think she has rejected more mainstream r'n'b production styles for a long while ago (you get the sense that she's got burnt trying to navigate the industry), but I'd kinda like her to try some more up tempo stuff again ( I first came across her with this poppy dance r'n'b track and would like to see her add some faster funkier favours to another release.

Cleo sol - never the right time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Tef1QdVgo

Swanswans, Sunday, 22 August 2021 10:32 (two years ago) link

boy am i glad that she linked up with inflo. that was embarrassing.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 22 August 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

DaVinChe sounding like a duplo Richcraft there

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 22 August 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

here's another Davinche/Cleo attempt at mersh R&B that goes a little harder

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 22 August 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link


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