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Use the tsurukame app, highly configurable

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link

Maybe the recommended usage is to finish all the vocabulary first before proceeding but I dunno seems like I am going to spend forever on the vocabulary anyway so…

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link

Anyway, I kept up the ever more brutal pace of leveling up every seven days until this week, when it finally gave way, which is fine I guess. I really don’t know how Ed kept up the pace for so long, although maybe I do know and I also know why he had to eventually take a very long break or two.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

yeh I'm not capable of doing that. going at my own pace
that app seems to ios only, boooo

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

Flaming Durtles?

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

Kakumei?

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Now looking for some easy readers so I can use this stuff.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

Try Satori Reader, there’s quite a lot of stuff you can read without paying for. It also integrates with Wanikani so it will only show Furigana for stuff you don’t know.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 3 July 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link

Thanks! Will check that out. Already started looking at ManabiReader again, along with White Rabbit Press.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 July 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link

Okay, the White Rabbit Level 2 stories are at the right level.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 July 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

How do you find stuff to read in Satori? I didn’t dig that part of the interface

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link

The dictionary app simply called Japanese has a color tagging feature that I am finding really useful at the moment.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

Okay, so just leveled up to twelve. I will know a lot if this thing doesn't pull me under.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

It takes me at least a couple of days to internal the weird readings and nuances of meaning of the vocab which us why at this point I always start the radicals and kanji first in the vain pursuit of the next level up.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

Always feels kind relaxing being in the eye of the hurricane when that two day pause comes before the radicals and (most or some of the) first batch of kanji go to Guru.

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

Eye of the typhoon, I should say

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

Is there some rule of thumb about a/e vowel sounds and transitive/intransitive or am I just imagining

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

I seem to see a lot of pairs where the e vowel is transitive, to act upon, and the a vowel is intransitive, to be acted upon.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

Unless I’ve got that backwards.

Anyway, just found my copy of this book
https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9784872179408-us.jpg
flipping through which demonstrates that the Kanji reading is much improved.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

I seem to see a lot of pairs where the e vowel is transitive, to act upon, and the a vowel is intransitive, to be acted upon.

So, for instance
温める
温まる
Which are respectively
To warm something up
To warm oneself up

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 July 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

Just found this

This is an intransitive verb, meaning it happens on its own. The かる ending is a hint, because verbs with かる as okurigana (kana added to the kanji) are usually intransitive.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 July 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link

That’s under 受かる

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 July 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

My main problem with learning Japanese grammar is that I have no idea what English grammar is or how it works. It's like I have to learn a third language to learn the second. Doesn't help that my brain seems to immediately shut off when I read things like "intransitive verb".

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 24 July 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

I wouldn’t worry too much about not knowing English grammar or grammar terms, they map poorly in any case.

I recommend the Cure Dolly videos on YouTube, once you get past the odd 3D avatar and squeaky voice there’s some great teaching on how Japanese works.

Here’s the one on Jidoushi and Tadoushi. Be wary of trying to look for patters is which is which, there are always exceptions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELk1dqaEmyk

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 24 July 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link

Ed is correct as usual. Japanese grammar is completely unrelated to English grammar, unlike Indo-European languages, in particular close relatives such as Germanic and Romance languages.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 July 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

So I have all five fonts installed in Tsurukame. Knew that if I long pressed it would show the standard font but just realized I can swipe left and right to iterate through others.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 July 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link

When I went through (most of) the reverse Duolingo tree I actually came across many Japanese terms for English grammar. Of course in the lessons there were multiple ways in Japanese to convey various things that were represented in the English tenses.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 July 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

Did the bare minimum on Wanikani yesterday and today started with a stack of close to three hundred reviews. Dang!

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

Almost dug myself out. Also just realized that 例えば is tatoeba!

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 August 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

こんにちは! every year or so i decide that i'm going to learn japanese and then get burnt out after a few months. each time i learn a little bit more and i think i'm on track to reaching my goal in about 20 years.

i'm feeling good about the strategy this time which is to focus on reading. my ultimate goal is to be able to play japanese video games (lol) so i'm thinking that i don't need to get too hung up on memorizing the various kanji readings. some various thoughts:

* the kanji learner's dictionary is a fucking game changer. what used to take 20 minutes to find an unfamiliar kanji now can take as little as 5 seconds with the SKIP indexing.
* the dictionary of basic japanese grammar is a good reference for the most part, but i can't for the life of my find super basic shit like what exactly the ます form is despite it being used in all the entries. i'm thinking i'm going to need to supplement it with a more general textbook... probably genki?
* this time i'm getting as much japanese in front of my eyes as i can and let the pattern recognition neural pathways form. so far this involves playing japanese games and just reading the text to myself whether or not i understand what it's saying. i'm starting to notice patterns and phrases already so i think it's working pretty well!
* it was a real eye opener for me when i realized that text with kanji is easier to read. i was trying to play dragon quest v but it's text is mostly hiragana. really frustrating to not know what something says, only to look it up and realize that it's one of the 5 kanji you actually CAN recognize but just written in hiragana.

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 7 August 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

I have and like the first edition of the Kanji Learner’s Dictionary but I have to say I hardly ever use the SKIP method, although I see that it could be useful.

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 August 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link

そうですか。

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

Almost had a wanikani breakdown but managed to right the ship, pull back from the brink.

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 August 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

had a 200+ review session earlier to get it under control, afterwards felt like I used up all my brain power for the day
some things I just keep fucking up again and again, like when to use getsu or gatsu or tsuki for month in vocab
or kanji for pause vs suspension

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 14 August 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

Yes, exactly!

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 August 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

Once I have too many to review I kind of nibble at it: ascending or descending SRS stage or lowest level first, and then when I finally have a chance I just plow through but can’t give it nearly the attention I would for a smaller review

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 August 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

So I just found out the reason most dictionary apps have the same definitions and examples is that they are all based on the same thing, the Tanaka Corpus.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 August 2021 12:46 (two years ago) link

Which is now apparently embedded in Tatoeba.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 August 2021 12:48 (two years ago) link

勝敗は問題ではない。

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 August 2021 13:02 (two years ago) link

Easily confused:
願-がん
源-げん

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 August 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Forgot to mention
原-げん

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 August 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

地図
地区

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

ah the map made out of cheesu
I've been messing around on Duolingo just for passively learning sentence structure but damn everyone seems to be so competitive in these dumb league tables they have

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link

Renshu grammar is really good for sentence structure once you get past the baffling setup.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

The gamification is in the form of a virtual gatchapon.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

Sorry, I hated that interface so much I just gave up on that thing.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 August 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link

Forgot to mention
原-げん

頑-がん

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 August 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

Think I have a further elaboration of common transitive/intransitive pair patterns.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 August 2021 12:11 (two years ago) link

If the pairs end in す/る, the first tends to be transitive, the second intransitive.

If the pairs end in える/ある, the first is usually transitive, the second intransitive.

DO U SEE?

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 August 2021 12:27 (two years ago) link


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