discogs marketplace?

I think they were attempting to assist with VAT calculation for intra-UK and intra-EU sales by VAT registered sellers and got confused. I think now unfortunately for IOSS registered EU sellers dropping that means they can't charge the right rates on sales to other EU countries at the moment.

Which I realise is probably an esoteric concern for most here, just to say it's complicated and the markeptkaces have been given quite a task having to sort all this out.

I just received a copy of Nort Star by Philip Glass and it is so heavy with surface noise I wonder if it is the actual copy El-P sampled for The Cold Vein. Was advertised as NM on discogs and I am wondering if I can even be bothered bringing it up with the seller.

Like I don't even know how a record gets this noisy and doesn't look as if it has scratches on the surface

I once weighed down my stylus with coins to stop it skipping, and that will do that.

I used to do that BITD too! But this doesn't skip, it's just really noisy, audible between tracks and in quiet passages, of which there are many on this.

Or "wet playing".

You should at least mention it and see what they say.

I'll definitely give it a "wet play" and see if that improves things.

I’ve been experiencing EXTREMELY long shipping times from Canada to the UK (and to a lesser extent, to continental Europe). To the point where I’m considering offering only tracked packets to international destinations (which is EXTREMELY expensive & would discourage sales). Anyone else having this issue?

Postage from Canada/US to UK seems expensive, whereas the reverse journey is a lot cheaper.

Postage to anywhere from the US is expensive. When I ship Bandcamp orders from my label it's about $17 to the UK or EU or Asia (I've sent stuff to Japan and Indonesia in the past).

I'm wondering if Bandcamp should hook up with local pressing plants in other countries to offer a local disc service. Pretty much every time I (in Australia) consider buying a CD it's like $10 plus $17 shipping.

Looks like shipping within the US is going to be more expensive soon too. I've seen a few different people tweeting this news today, but this is the best I could find with a specific source:

This was an update I got from Pirate Ship. Signature Confirmation is also going up. pic.twitter.com/nEmkmZrV3L

— Dave Scheidt (@DaveScheidt) July 6, 2021

Cutting off part of the image in that embedded tweet, but media mail prices going up 12% on 8/29.

Right now I send CDs first class with a tracking number within the US. It's between $4-5.

I sell mostly surface mail to the US and Canada: much cheaper, usually takes two weeks to arrive, and the barcode is trackable once it arrives in the destination country. Sales to the EU, if there are now customs charges to pay (over about £22 or so, I think) tend to be more like three weeks.

(I’m UK based btw)

Looks like shipping within the US is going to be more expensive soon too.

12% isn't outrageous or anything. One lp (1 lb rate) will go up from $2.80 to $3.13, and incrementally by poundage.

Sold my first CD to Germany under new rules. I’ve printed out order page and have a couple of questions.

What is the title of seller, is it my username, my actual name or a title such as Mr?

The printout is a sheet of A4 about twice the size of a JL0 jiffy bag. Do I stick it to outside of the jiffy bag or do I put it inside?

From what I’ve read, the invoice should go on the outside of the package. I haven’t yet sold a CD to the EU since the change, but I’m planning to use a larger envelope than usual, with the invoice folded inside one of my 7” clear plastic sleeves, such that it can be extracted, unfolded and examined. Just clicking “print” from the Discogs order page should give you all you need.

Ta, I'm going to have to buy some blooming document pouches in that case. Will improvise in mean time.

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12% isn't outrageous or anything. One lp (1 lb rate) will go up from $2.80 to $3.13, and incrementally by poundage.

That's good to know. Media mail is definitely slower but I also take advantage of the one-pound coverage and pack the shit out of everything I send. Besides, I ended up with a ton of packing material due to pandemic shopping (i.e. doing a lot more via internet instead of in-store). I still recycle the all-plastic (#4 LDPE) material, but the mixed material and styrofoam material isn't recyclable, and rather than throwing it all into a landfill, I've been able to reuse it with plenty leftover.

Beyondmintvinyls would be v. interested in your Miles Davis box set and all yr foul-smelling records fyi

I see today is international "do you have a tracking number for this parcel sent Economy to the other side of the world a week ago" day!

(Only grumbing because I rarely get questions like that and woke up to two.)

Yep

Counting 11 (and more beyond what is shown, I'm sure) sales of the limited (to 333) "art" edition of Grouper's Grid Of Points all from the same p0pm4rk3t seller at the price point of the normal edition, therefore all sold using the the incorrect entry, and not a single complaint in the comments! Actually surprised. How many of those recipients even realized? That mega/warehouse seller so notorious for selling with the incorrect entry. Buyer beware.

after buying second hand records & cds online for literal decades, it occurred to me upon the arrival of my last discogs order just how good things have gotten when the seller included an extra blank jewel case on the off chance that the proper one might have gotten damaged in transit.

beats 20 years ago when i was trying to understand why ebay's customer service desk was contacting me about a complaint for a neutral feedback i left on a record that was advertised as "VG" but was unplayable because of how damaged it was.

The bizarre thing about ebay's condition grades for CDs is the almost total emphasis on the jewel case rather than the media. Discogs is the other way round on the basis that they are interchangeable. Which obviously makes more sense, although not all jewel cases are created equal, the quality of plastic has got progressively worse since they were introduced.

look what just popped up

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/1578039559

no way would I pay that much but if it was half that....lets just say I'd be tempted

My sales have went through the floor, one £3 CD sold in three weeks. Might be a summer lull or COVID worries but suspect the culprit is the new VAT rules to EU which have fucked things up.

frogbs - I missed that sale and it looks like it's over, how much were they asking for it?

FWIW, my UK to EU sales have collapsed since the VAT change.

I had no idea that Ken Snyder record was sweated

Xpost yeah, mine too.

frogbs - I missed that sale and it looks like it's over, how much were they asking for it?

iirc it was like $295 or something.

yeah it was over $200 I think

kind of a funny story about that album, it's infamous for appearing on all those "worst album covers of all time" lists but it's not really clear how it got on there in the first place. I don't know how many copies are out there...it's got to be around 500. the music isn't exactly bad, but it was kind of cool when nobody actually knew what it sounded like...

so here's a first for me: ordered a mint sealed 70s record. record arrives and i unseal it, and record literally looks like its been dragged behind a truck, almost unplayable. i messaged the seller about it and hes just like "i said it was sealed, and it was sealed, i cant vouch for what was inside the shrink". which is obviously true, and he looks like a high volume seller so i doubt that he has the time or inclination to be pulling a rinkydink shrinkwrap scam like this himself. caveat emptor i guess but am i wrong to expect anything from the seller? maybe im a pushover but i feel like if i was in their shoes i would at least offer like a token refund, 15% or something. frustrating.

IMO if it was graded Mint then you can reasonably expect a "perfect" record whether the seller wishes to take the chance on that or not. Caveat Vendor IMO.

*Venditor ;-)

If I were the seller, I'd absolutely offer a refund that takes account of the actual unsealed grading (and by the same token, I'd also expect the buyer to be understanding and reasonable, and not to leave bad feedback). I'd almost certainly be offering a lot more than a 15% refund, as well.

if he sold it sealed then the assumption is that it is mint / unplayed inside, he might have not known this, but it's still his responsibility

Awful - yeah, there were some stores even that would re-shrink used albums in the 70s. The first clue I got was when I was about to list an album as Mint/VG+ when I noticed the cutout didn’t go through the shrink - that is, the album had at some point been cutout, opened, & re-sealed. When I opened it, the record was VG at best & it went in the bargain bin instead of Discogs.

I got another batch of records where the record store had put stickers on the jackets “this album has been tested & plays perfectly” and some of them had shrink over top of the stickers.

As a seller I offer to open & inspect sealed records as an option, but no buyer has ever asked me to do so.

I dunno what I’d do if I was on the other side of your sitch; probably refund the price difference between the M and the actual grade.

yeah its a tough spot for the seller to be in. not gonna leave bad feedback bc its such a strange rare situation, but just annoying.

my first tipoff that something was weird was that the record had a huge sticker on the front of the shrink that says "FACTORY SEALED!" which, uhh, i'm pretty sure they dont put on at the factory, lol

When you see that on a beer bottle, that’s when you wanna start worrying.

Awful - yeah, there were some stores even that would re-shrink used albums in the 70s. The first clue I got was when I was about to list an album as Mint/VG+ when I noticed the cutout didn’t go through the shrink - that is, the album had at some point been cutout, opened, & re-sealed. When I opened it, the record was VG at best & it went in the bargain bin instead of Discogs.

FWIW, one of the deejays in Chicago (I can't remember who) once recalled on-air when she worked at a record store, there was some douchebag who would come in every month to buy a stack of records AND a pack of cassettes. He would then come back a few days later and return all of his opened records (but not the cassettes). Before my time, but I was stunned that was even doable when it was obvious what the customer was doing - I guess that probably led to a lot of "re-seals."

Maybe you're trying to be fair to the seller or just don't want the hassle but don't rule out returning it for a full refund. If you used PayPal you'll have strong protections and they can reimburse return postage.

dealers can usually tell when the seal is real. those 70s pressings have those little breather holes.