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It rings a bell but I might be thinking of ringo as larry the dwarf in 200 motels.

anyone arguing that the beatles aren't shit at this point are melts. I've done extensive research on this subject and am completely correct. comments are closed.

Well, this is a thread for controversy after all

I can't recall anyone ever having anything positive to say about their lyrics.

"Rock and Roll" is an effective and subtle portrait of a failing marriage.

"Sick Again" is a heartfelt depiction of the difficulty of dealing with recurrent illness.

"'immigrant song' that's where i'm a viking!"

People putting down Plant's Tolkien lyrics should give a listen to the Humble Pie record I have on:

"Lord, sometimes... ya make me feel so bad!
Sometimes... ya make me feel so sad!"

By the standards of the era and the genre, he wasn't egregious.

it do be like that tho

the bo hansson lord of rings album fucking rules

sorry not a controversial op

Yeah but it's instrumental, if he'd called it "A Trip Along The Waterways Of Sweden" or whatever people would be raving about how much it sounds like fjords. Does rule though, whatever it's about.

Are the various Swedish concept albums about Moomins (e.g. peter Lundblad and Trobjorn Ekelund) nursery rhyme shit or epic fantasy shit?

I have one that's kund of jazzy vocal music, it's pretty good

This one

https://www.discogs.com/Tove-Jansson-Mika-Pohjola-2-Erna-Tauro-Johanna-Gr%C3%BCssner-Muminr%C3%B6ster-Moomin-Voices/release/6063322

I have that one too, it sounds a bit like Dungen. And i think a third one in addition to "vem ska trosta knyttet"

The one you linked is the best of the 3

Not ta det lugnt but later dungen

Like vince guaraldi peanuts meets dungen

Ha, I can kind of see that

norm macdonald was okay

Not a controversial opinion

Norm macdonald was very funny, but ilxors are in denial about what he was really like personally, and seem to be happy to ignore his sexual assaults.

his sexual assaults

Got a link? My own searches turn up nothing.

Fuckin thank you. I hadn't heard any of the sexual assault stories but that clip of him on Conan where he mauls Courtney Thorne-Smith as an explicit gesture of sexual power/dominance over the Conan because he knows they both find her attractive and Norm wants to get there first, was so repulsive. (Later in the segment, he interrupts Conan's questioning of CTS to make himself the center of attention a bunch of times including insulting fat people and a premature ejaculation joke iirc--I shut it off at that point.)

I never watched any show or thing that Norm MacDonald was on so I have no attachment to him, so maybe it's easy for me to say but...fuck that guy.

Norm McDonald stuck his hand down my pants and groped my ass 10 years ago when I asked for a picture with him.

— Molly (of no relation to fun drug) (@Mollyissilly) September 14, 2021

This happened to my sister in law and the creep was Norm MacDonald. True story.

— Josh Fairhurst (@LimitedRunJosh) June 23, 2020

Yeah, that stuff has been saddening to read about. The Brandon Teena joke too.

Yeah, even among the more scathing postmortems I haven't heard anything about that.

Norm MacDonald casually confessing to sexual assault in an interview that brought no further attention to it is a reminder that #MeToo was badly needed. Being famous and funny makes it all too easy for men to get away with this shit. pic.twitter.com/ID7Z294uJi

— Wet Silk (@Fractalmatic) September 15, 2021

Norm Macdonald on Louis C.K. & Roseanne Barr: "There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, 'What about the victims?' But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that" https://t.co/w6OeRcEO77

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) September 11, 2018

Norm MacDonald was always fucking gross

I have one that's kund of jazzy vocal music, it's pretty good

The Many Moods of Norm McDonald

the post-Gram Flying Burrito Bros’ “Tried So Hard” is considerably better than Gene’s (which is still obv classic no arg there)

guess there’s probably a better thread for this Controversial Opinion on ilm

Not that controversial either tbh.

(i.e. I agree with you)

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All comedy podcasts are bad except ones with Andy Daly.

first two seasons of The Simpsons are dogshit

Ohhhh no, S2 is prob my favourite

I can't vibe with the wrong Homer voice or heart warming character development

Bojack Horseman >>> The Simpsons

Seriously? Isn’t it like Archer with a horse head?

no not at all!

Yeah it’s much much worse than Archer.

> first two seasons of The Simpsons are dogshit

was this prompted by channel 4 yesterday afternoon? i watched the dead putting society episode and enjoyed it, even if the tone was a bit odd.

did enjoy him mixing up jack niklaus / nicholson. i feel later episodes someone would've drawn more attention to that rather than it being a single line.

S1 Simpsons, I'd always filed it away as "unwatchable" (I think I had a hate-on for those episodes when they aired as re-runs and it was prior to me having any concept of "seasons of the Simpsons"), but on re-watch they are much better than I remember (except the babysitter episode)

S2 Simpsons is great because the characters are still in their expositions and some of well-worn tropes are absent or in their nascent stages

when i did a rewatch 10 years ago i was surprised at how many episodes that I assumed were from golden years seasons were actually from season 1

1. What marching bands play is technically music. As in, systematic arrangements of sounds that are played by people who are musically inclined. They are often very skilled at playing their instruments.

But pretty much no one spontaneously likes this music except people who are currently in a marching band or once were in a marching band. Or, I guess, people who are really into American high school and college football? I mean, seriously, does anyone go home at the end of the day and put on a record by the Moosefield High School Marching Band (Home of the Fightin' Meeses)? No they do not.

2. Drum corps drumming is even more of a niche taste - those very high thin snare drums on which people play extremely rapid-fire thingymadiddles and flamaborps, using traditional grip and expertly reading notation. Good for you, I guess. You win at, um, a type of music (again, _technically_) that looks suspiciously like a cross between abstruse mathematics and an obscure Olympic sport. You could be the best in the entire universe and I would still never willingly listen to your fucking tippity tappity whapadoodles at 197 BPM.

(And I say this as a working musician, indeed, a regularly gigging drummer! I respect the dedication that goes into "chops" but there is no way in hell I am going to listen to more than three minutes of purely demonstrative "chops" on any instrument yet devised.)

3. The Smithsonian Air and Space Museums (yes, plural) are frequently cited as among the most popular museums in the US if not the world. And they are Boring. As. Fuck.

Wow, a plane. Let's walk 700 feet further so we can see... another plane. Wow. Oh look here's an obsolete rocket from the Cold War. Wow. This really inspires me to walk another 900 feet in order to see... a slightly different obsolete rocket from the Cold War.

"Keep moving, kids! In another twelve to seventeen minutes we might be able to look at a replica of an obsolete hot-air balloon! Isn't this fun?"

Modern museums have things you can DO. Stuff you can TOUCH. Interactive exhibits. Museum design has evolved since 1976. But judging from the approximately kabillion times I've been dragged through them, the various Air & Space museums have mostly not gotten the memo on interactivity. With a few bright exceptions they have all been places to go Look At Stuff. Zzzzzz. These Cold War-era exhibits often have the faded and sad look of 1970s kitchen appliances.

4. The reason they call it "space" is that there is pretty much nothing there. The Cold-War era quasi-religious reverence for NASA and astronauts and spaceflight has always felt weird to me. Like, sure, yay science, yay achievement, yay technology. But don't confuse instrumental value with intrinsic value; don't make a golden idol out of a dude in a helmet going someplace where he can't breathe.

5. There is also a heapin' helpin' of thinly disguised jingoism in all that NASA worship - it was only partly about the triumph of the human spirit and giant leaps for mankind; much of it was (and is) motivated by being better than the godless commies, which is, again, a kinda tired relic of a time that just makes me sad.

The Air and Space Museum in DC is just starting a multi year renovation so maybe exhibits will be updated?

https://airandspace.si.edu/about-transformation