Rolling Contemporary Poetry

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i'm always shocked (shocked!) at what privileged backgrounds people you meet in art/literary worlds are in the UK and while I know that this is pretty much the historical norm, it feels far more accessible and diverse in ireland but also far more knitted into people's ordinary lives so I think there's something to be said not only about success etc, but also a diversity of contexts that we care about and the kinds of non-professionalised practices/platforms that we recognise.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

certainly it was totally normal for people of my grandparents generation to be able to recite poetry, often people with little literacy skills.

And i remember attending a wedding where a friend was getting married to an australian guy and his family was pretty baffled at how all the irish people kept insisting on making speeches and incorporating long passages of poetry (often written by non-professional poet friends!). I'm not saying this happens at every irish wedding but its not incredibly unusual either. the speeches thing is pretty universal though!

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

Oh absolutely, and I only really talk about the US because my knowledge of non-US poetry and literary communities isn't large...I know a good deal about Vancouver and Montreal, but that's still so-called North America. The only poets I know personally in the UK are white dudes, for example, which is clearly not representative...

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

i would say the 'hottest young thing' is ak blakmore whose work, to me, is simply "i went to oxbridge and then i got a septum piercing" but thats probably more uncharitable than it needs to be

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

my sex

enter breakfast truck, the bluebottles
performing obsequies to marbled bacon

enter girl with manacles. enter
so damn adorable. he likes small fuckdoll.

girl who looks plaintively at porcelain
salt and pepper shakers shaped
like kittens sleeping, intertwined. enter
desolation beside a pinstripe spider-plant enter
knowing how to dress your pear-shape history
history, and after you follow, with a bucket
and a mop – or words to that effect.

enter girl who applies the cooling gel.
enter the Tate Modern to see Yayoi Kusama’s
I Am Here But Nothing which please you
cannot photograph like when
i found out there was a fetish for everything sexuality
seemed like a great leveller. enter nothing
too weird to enter, biking, amused savage
tender repetitions of toilet cubicle graffiti.

enter Fathers in the Clouds (’99)
enter my sex like act not gender and other songs
that make me cry my sex sometimes ballet shoes
both the stones in the pockets of my coat
and the welcoming cold river.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v40/n11/a.k.-blakemore/two-poems

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

i guess

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

lmao that is rank

imago, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

replace that with the lyrics to 'my sex' by ultravox for infinite improvement

imago, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

Yeah that isn't quite good. Most of what I know is from SPAM and Face Press and Critical Documents...so perhaps similarly situated in the Oxbridge nexus, but more students of Prynne and that kind of thing..."difficult" poetry lol

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

i was loosely in with the Prynne crowd at the tail-end of university...there was some good stuff but it often came off as way too obscurantist and aloof for its own good

imago, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

replace that with the lyrics to 'my sex' by ultravox for infinite improvement

― imago,

my first thought when I saw the title

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

Imago, I admit that I am a huge fan of Prynne's work, but for the most part, I don't find his students' work as compelling.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

i feel almost bad about posting that blakemore one. i feel like the first thing i ever read by her was really good and i've never been able to remember where it was but yes that particular one is like the lyrics to a bongwater song except too full of itself and not as funny

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

also i can't say i've ready anything by prynne is there anything you would recommend? i read a thing about him online just now that says he is influenced by olson holderlin celan and o'hara which is quite a mix and very intriguing

plax (ico), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link

Plax, his collecteds (there are three editions, with timely additions in each) are worth looking for, but the one that gets most people into him is 'The White Stones,' which was reissued by NYRB a few years ago. The book is an outlier, in some ways, as the density and hermetic wordplay of his later work is not as foregrounded, but it's a lovely book, with some absolutely devastating poems in it.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link

lol all of white stones is on genius.com for some reason!

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 12:43 (two years ago) link

Ha, brilliant

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link

I bought an actual physical copy of "Walkman" last week, at a bookstore in Cincinnati. I like it.

o. nate, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

😬 https://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/jia-tolentino/

jaymc, Friday, 6 August 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

I have been enjoying the twitter reaction to that incredibly bad poem today.

emil.y, Friday, 6 August 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

I agree with the magazine's slogan: whatever that is, I'm against it.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 6 August 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

.

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 August 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link

jesus

flopson, Saturday, 7 August 2021 05:49 (two years ago) link

, conditionally,

jmm, Saturday, 7 August 2021 12:31 (two years ago) link

lol i was wondering if that would get posted here

plax (ico), Saturday, 7 August 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link


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