"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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if Debbonaire insists all their policy making is subject to Conservative Party approval and the right-wing press getting the final word, then a very fine opposition party they are.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:32 (two years ago) link

National treasure Mary Beard there, defending the appointment of George Osborne as part of their efforts to make the British Museum, and I quote, "more diverse" https://t.co/PiWEWt9aBp

— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) June 25, 2021

another from the bbc history dept I'm cancelling forever.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:41 (two years ago) link

Mary beard is pretty horrible

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:18 (two years ago) link

A real know your place pleb peddler in the great reithian tradition

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:19 (two years ago) link

I have always wanted to like Mary because she consistently takes flak from scumbags but she is responsible for some of the stupidest bits of narration I've ever heard in a TV history doc

Also she's clearly a fucking tory ffs

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:23 (two years ago) link

Mary Beard is bad for other reasons Plax is probably alluding to but it doesn’t look like she’s defending appointing Osborne on diversity grounds there.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:29 (two years ago) link

I think her comments about the Oxfam scandals and subsequent behaviour when called out was pretty gross and very much in line with pretty grim pronouncements on Rhodes must fall etc. I think her main commitment is to institutions and power and whether or not she realises how commensurate this is with white supremacy is of little interest to me but seemingly to her also

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:32 (two years ago) link

but claiming they are committed to diversity after appointing Gideon is pretty much the same as imo

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

I found the moment when I gave up on her:

Mary Beard's Julius Caesar documentary this week was so bad that I turned it off twice.

Opening pointless scene of somebody giving birth, "not many people know that the C in C Section stands for Caesarean" ffs, turned over

Flipped back 30 minutes later "not many people know that July is named after Julius Caesar" ffmfffs, OFF

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Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:35 (two years ago) link

is it too late to note that rolf's royal portrait resembles no one so much as rory mcgrath

mark s, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:35 (two years ago) link

the moral arc of an ilx thread can be long, but it bends toward rory mcgrath

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mark s, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:36 (two years ago) link

omg - it's true what they say - the eyes follow you

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:38 (two years ago) link

Lol dying at "not many know that everything is named after Julius Caesar"

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:49 (two years ago) link

I can accept that some of the more mildly left-wing history profs might not get space on the bbc in the current milieu, but that doesn't strictly mean the horribly meltish + tory ones have to be so fucking tedious and unwatchable!

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:58 (two years ago) link

mark s at 11:35 25 Jun 21
is it too late to note that rolf's royal portrait resembles no one so much as rory mcgrath
I think it looks more like the man rolf himself, inserted into the queen's face in a windowlicker style

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 June 2021 11:03 (two years ago) link

Shouldn't she have a kangaroo peeking out from under her crown or something?

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 11:12 (two years ago) link

never heard it called that before!

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 11:16 (two years ago) link

I don't like Mary Beard. She has been very over-promoted.

No-one should defend the appointment of Osborne to anything, as she was doing.

re: Labour and free social care? -- what I don't get, as usual, is: why do pensioners and homeowners, notoriously, not vote Labour? (Leaving aside the direness of KS's particular Labour.)

I have written here before that I think it makes sense for a homeowner to want social democracy.

I add that the elderly, pensioners, et al also ought to want social democracy, guaranteed state pensions, a better NHS, and yes, especially - free social care. Why on earth would that policy be a vote-loser among that particular consitutency?

I can see one possible reason for an old homeowner to fear Labour, namely: inheritance tax. (ie: fear for what will happen *after* they die!) But that's hypothetical; I'm not sure that Labour has even had a distinct position on inheritance tax.

the pinefox, Friday, 25 June 2021 11:18 (two years ago) link

I think these pundits somewhat agree with me that free social care should logically be a popular, not unpopular, policy among older people.

So true. The turning point of the 2017 election was Labour rejecting putting the costs of adult social care onto individuals.

The grim truth with Starmer’s corporate Labour is they would have called the dementia tax a good idea. https://t.co/Gz3I82TLBS

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) June 24, 2021

the pinefox, Friday, 25 June 2021 11:30 (two years ago) link

Labour-controlled Kirklees council whose priority, I am repeatedly told, is to divert funds to nearby Huddersfield

this bit from the Bastani B+S piece made me laugh, because every person you could ever talk to in Batley/Dewsbury has a chip on their shoulder about all the money going to that shining metropolis, downtown Hudds. Also interesting to discover that the Francis Bacon painting at Hudds library that is worth £20 mill was nabbed from Batley art gallery in 1952 and the original legal conditions of its gifting to them still stands thus preventing the fuckers from selling it!

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 12:06 (two years ago) link

Please read this. I love the music of Mumford & Sons. Now cancel culture has cancelled one of its talent. I wish Winston Marshall didn't feel he needed to walk away to maintain his integrity. What are we doing to ourselves, our creatives, our talents? Our freedom to speak? https://t.co/0z6nuPw2T7

— Angela Richardson MP (@AJRichardsonMP) June 24, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 June 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link

"I love the music of Mumford & Sons"

imagine doing this to yourself

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

Listening to Mumford to own the libs is pretty much its own punishment

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link

Where was Angela Richardson MP when GG Allin was being cancelled?

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link

That reminds me, has William Bennett been cancelled yet? Or is he considered a problem only for Holyrood?

alan dean impostor (Matt #2), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link

Is there any point in cancelling someone no-one's heard of?

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

What's DJ Benetti done now?

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

idk about this. Her choice.

The worst thing about Batley and Spen is the LP has thrown someone completely unprepared into a shit show with some awful cunts and they are torpedoing her campaign by being shite on everything else and she is having to soak up the anger people feel towards the leadership

— Metal Bizkit Rising (@allforthanookie) June 25, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

Her choice to run, sure, but idk if she’d have anticipated Labour turning the whole campaign into a vehicle for apportioning blame for losing an election that was still weeks away.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 25 June 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

I would agree that this is not “the worst thing” about it, tho.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 25 June 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

even if the Starmer office hadn't made B&S even more toxic by insulting/shaming longtime supporters as anti-Semites. I'm not sure her strategy of running a campaign like she's in a local council election (potholes, bin collections, litter) was ever going to be a winning strategy in a by-election within a Labour controlled council. She and the people who encouraged her to run were obv very naive or hadn't looked at the math of the 2019 result which showed they were already in trouble even before you factor in the widespread discontent towards Starmer from other UK South Asian communities in the local elections.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

"but idk if she’d have anticipated Labour turning the whole campaign into a vehicle for apportioning blame for losing an election that was still weeks away."

Maybe, 'non-political' people who decide to do politics are bizarre to me. You do a thing like that in public you should know who you are going about with.

Should've run as an independent.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 June 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

She shouldn’t have run at all but I am not sure a more seasoned politician would have anticipated quite how wildly, and maliciously, the party has sabotaged itself here either.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 25 June 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

"'non-political' people who decide to do politics are bizarre to me"

when Kim has been put on the spot, like when OJ asked her about the UK selling weapons of death to repressive states. She reveals herself to actually be quite political after all and starts equivocating with a typical bullshit Labour Right response.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

New: Labour director of communications: runners and riders

• Patrick Hennessy
• Rob Burley
• Dan Hodges

omg!

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

the thin blue lying (suzy), Friday, 25 June 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

The full list is pretty interesting. A couple of more substantial former Times / Telegraph writers, Pippa Cretar, Damian McBride….

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 25 June 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

*Crerar

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 25 June 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

I didn't think Hodges would really be a front runner, particularly after he admitted voting for Theresa May in 2017. Or maybe as long as you hated Corbyn then your in with a shot!

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link

oh christ there is a video as well - don't watch it! I've not seen such sweaty and desperate fumbling hands since I was at a teenage disco night at the Cats Bar in Halifax circa 1989

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link

I'm sorry, I've seen it now you have to

🚨🚨 | BREAKING: Matt Hancock full video with lover

Via @TheSun pic.twitter.com/PNmKb7rsPc

— Politics For All (@PoliticsForAlI) June 25, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 June 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

warning: contains scenes of matt hancock’s bald spot which some viewers may find disturbing

MY EYES

Console yourselves with thoughts of what the atmosphere must be like chez Hancock right now.

alan dean impostor (Matt #2), Friday, 25 June 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

"MY EYES" currently #1 trending topic on UK twitter

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 June 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

Not tonight Satan!!!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 June 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

lol

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 June 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

When you don’t understand how people leaving a mosque works? Because I’m not in any way defending Galloway or that idiot screaming homophobia but you’d think you’d want to be accurate on what’s actually happening? https://t.co/0sD8w7mzwp

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) June 25, 2021

so if you catch Galloway and some hate-mongering homophobic gobshite from outside the area in the same shot with people leaving the mosque after Friday prayers then you can falsely report that they are all complicit with the verbal abuse Leadbeater received.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link

the homophobic gobshite is shockingly a friend of Katie Hopkins it seems

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link

Watching Novara Media last night reminded me of the very obvious fact that Kim L's sister was murdered 5 years ago while trying to do the job that Kim L is trying to attain.

This did, for me, put aggression against her in a different light.

They also stated that she is a lesbian, and that this would make LGBT abuse against her worse. I had not been aware of this at all.

Overall, while I am not sure that I would vote for her, I think it is very bad that some individuals are deliberately raising tension and aggression in this of all constituencies.

If there were a Green candidate I would probably vote for them.

the pinefox, Saturday, 26 June 2021 07:29 (two years ago) link

It is extraordinary btw how no-one seems sure how to pronounce "Leadbeater". I keep seeing the same people say it different ways in the space of the same clip.

the pinefox, Saturday, 26 June 2021 07:38 (two years ago) link


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