I've seen some version of Foreigner (dunno how many original members, definitely the singer) play at a county fair and I gotta tell you guys they absolutely smoked, would 100% go see Foreigner in 2021 in an agricultural setting
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link
wait Lou Gramm is back?
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link
when I saw them it was still Kelly Hansen, but that was many years ago
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link
lmao this list
Current members
Mick Jones – lead and rhythm guitars, keyboards, backing and lead vocals (1976–present) Jeff Pilson – bass, keyboards, backing vocals (2004–present) Kelly Hansen – lead vocals, percussion (2005–present) Michael Bluestein – keyboards, backing vocals (2008–present) Bruce Watson – rhythm and lead guitars, backing vocals (2011–present) Chris Frazier – drums, percussion (2012–present) Luis Maldonado - rhythm guitar, bass, backing vocals (2021-present)
Former members
Lou Gramm – lead vocals, percussion (1976–1990, 1992–2003; occasional special guest, 2017 and 2018) Dennis Elliott – drums, percussion, occasional backing vocals (1976–1993, 1991–93; occasional special guest, 2017 and 2018) Ian McDonald – rhythm and lead guitars, keyboards, saxophone, flute, backing vocals (1976–1980; occasional special guest, 2017, 2018 and 2019) Al Greenwood – keyboards, synthesizers (1976–1980; occasional special guest 2017, 2018 and 2019) Ed Gagliardi – bass, backing vocals (1976–1979; died 2014) Rick Wills – bass, backing vocals (1979–1991; occasional special guest 2017, 2018 and 2019) Johnny Edwards – lead vocals, rhythm and lead guitars (1990–1992) Jeff Jacobs – keyboards, backing vocals (1991–2007) Thom Gimbel – rhythm guitar, keyboards, backing vocals, saxophone, flute (1992–1993, 1995–2021)[36] Mark Schulman – drums, backing vocals (1992–1995, 2000–2002, 2011–2012) Bruce Turgon – bass, backing vocals (1992–2003) Scott Gilman – rhythm and lead guitars, saxophone, backing vocals (1993–1995) Ron Wikso – drums (1995–1998) Brian Tichy – drums (1998–2000, 2008–2010; touring 2007, 2011 and 2012) Denny Carmassi – drums (2002–2003) Jason Bonham – drums (2004–2008) Chas West – lead vocals (2004-2005) Paul Mirkovich – keyboards (2007–2008) Bryan Head – drums (2008) Jason Sutter – drums (2010–2011)
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
still can't believe "hired guns" version of Foreigner recorded a studio album in 2009 and they stole the title of a Lionel Richie album for it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can%27t_Slow_Down_(Foreigner_album)
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link
This thread has really advanced the state of my Foreigner studies over the past half hour, thank u
― I Scream For Ice Cream But Also Just All The Time And For No Reason (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link
(Frankly surprised Furriner doesn't get rotten produce thrown at them when they play rural venues tbrr)
― I Scream For Ice Cream But Also Just All The Time And For No Reason (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link
careful u don't stare at the screen too long, you might get.....
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link
three guitars but no flute? fuck that
― Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
I assume at this point Mick Jones basically stands onstage while stagehands move his hands for him
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
current worst & most washed up is clearly green day by quite a margin
but also i never had much fondness for them overall - dookie is good & that's about it? i would probably take the most recent weezer album (which is actually ok) over 90% of green day's discog lol
― ufo, Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
Smashing Pumpkins worse than any of these.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link
well yes obv
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
I bet live Green Day is going to kick the shit out of the other two
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
honestly I think live Green Day would be a lot of fun, they would play a lot of classics, it'd be energetic, upbeat, and I could go get high during the new boring songs.
Weezer I'd maybe be entertained for 5 songs in the set and then feel like setting the stage on fire during "Beverly Hills" or "hash Pipe"
FAllout Boy could be aight but I don't know much beyond the huge singles.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link
i will never forgive any cunt who wrote a song called "Boulevard of Broken Dreams"
still better than Weezer, obv
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
What peak Alt-Rock bands are on the state fair circuit? I saw recently that Saliva (celebrating the 20th-!-anniversary of their debut) played a date around here at a suburban biker bar, a fate that seems a level below fairs.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link
"Peak-era Alt-Rock" I mean...
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link
I also think ILX has a bit of an blind spot to how big American Idiot was in the larger world, I that's the record a lot of people think of not Dookie
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link
god Saliva, lmao....
imagining 10 kids in Puma outfits dancing to Click Click Boom and slipping on the wet grass
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
xpost yeah, Green Day has a lot of second generation fans who came into them in the mid-2000s, so that's the Green Day they know first. just like all the Jay-Z fans who consider The Black Album their starting point.
American Idiot is the last album of theirs I like, but it's where the wheels started coming off.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
tbh i dunno if it's a blind spot as far as "American Idiot" is concerned, that's probably their moment - this is about suckiness rather than breakthru tho?
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link
and the title track is perfectly ok yes
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link
"Boulevard of Broken Dreams" is definitely fuckin' dire though. and all the other songs they wrote that sound like it.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:14 (two years ago) link
I just meant I think GD exists more as a classic rock legacy band than a "washed" early 90s band
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
i feel like maybe Hanoi Rocks used that shit title so i'd like to withdraw my total generalization but ffs
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
Probably not that far off. I looked up the venue on Maps, and it's just off the interstate in the rural part of its town (one road in and out), with an outdoor stage and picnic table seating.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link
i was too much of a fake real punk to give american idiot a chance at the time but it was clearly a massive deal for so many people - billie joe even became kind of a pin-up for a while for girls and boys of a certain age and inclination. it was weird because i thought of them as that old band from the 90s who'd had already had their moment but now they were suddenly huge again, maybe huger. the album has its its charms i suppose but people were also clearly starved for anti-bush content and that year and a half old black eyed peas / JT track wasn't cutting it by that point
― Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
weezer - not my cup of tea really but i can’t front, the early stuff has great guitar sounds/hooks/vocalsgreen day - dookie singles are good, “time of your life” is good. the “wake me when september ends” song i hear in the supermarket is atrocious, i’m sure the vast majority of their music is awfulfall out boy - I don’t know this band
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
I feel like Clear Channel-backed Alt-Radio fests are the state fair equivalent for these bands. Here's Houston's...
https://www.buzzfest2021.com/
Offspring!Chevelle!P.O.D.!CANDLEBOX!!!!
For comparison's sake, these bands are as far away from their respective heydays as Classic Rock bands (Styx, Speedwagon, Fabulous Thunderbirds etc.) playing Classic Rock Radio fests 20 years ago.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link
now i see more clearly that AI was the commercial and frankly probably artistic peak of a phenomenon that included rock against bush and NOFX and other punk-adjecent bands (you weren't supposed to call the indie label ones pop-punk for some reason) becoming "political" in various mostly hamfisted ways. but it was also the start of green day's classic-rockification which is a dreary thing
― Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link
i never want to hear "good riddance" again
― ufo, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link
i will always love good riddance tbh
the anomalu here is what Left just described, the high tide mark is actually AI and y'know ffs
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link
i don't think anyone is denying that AI was their commercial peak
― ufo, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link
riding in on the big wave that brought us Kings of Leon oh ffs let's do the planet from orbit
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
need some kind of micro measurements about when "original" punk acts turned into classic rock vs every ripple afterwards i.e. nothing turned out worser than The Clash idk
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link
american idiot was not their worst, or the worst blockbuster rock album of the era but it was really not very good
combining the pretensions and bombast of classic rock with the bland straight-forward lack of nuance of pop punk was just a dreadful combo
― ufo, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link
I basically agree but it was and remains Important regardless. the market has spoken, Rolling Stone has spoken, the RnR HoF has spoken, Broadway has spoken. as millennials are taking over what's left of Big Rock Crit I imagine it will remain Important for a while
― Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link
― I Scream For Ice Cream But Also Just All The Time And For No Reason (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link
dude you're not even the 86-est poster on this thread
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link
I was lucky enough to graduate before 'Good Riddance' happened but you'd better believe I heard it at every one of my siblings' ceremonies.
― I Scream For Ice Cream But Also Just All The Time And For No Reason (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link
i was in 4th grade when american idiot came out and in music class at the time the teacher would play the title track's video as a reward if everyone had been good
i wasn't much of a fan
― ufo, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link
this is another starved-for-options kind of issue but armstrong being bi was actually a really big deal for a lot of kids my age. nothing new in pop of course but it was new to many people and it was an aggressively heteronormative time even/esp in the UK
― Left, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link
i have never even heard that so god bless him if he called it
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link
i mean the anti-normativity of Fall Out Boy et al is a chunk of my love and i don't pay any attention to music pressy stuff but god bless you Billie Joe
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link
The last time I saw Green Day live was in 2000 with the Get Up Kids opening - if they promised to repeat that exact set list I'd pay the $60 or whatever to see this shitshow. The other two are terrible top to bottom so no matter how bad Green Day has gotten they're still the winners here.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link
This Ain't a Meme It's a Heart Face still the best of the best
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link
thinking about this early Green Day probably are part of that original movement of demachoifaction of pop-rock
― Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link
AND Weezer tbf
― I Scream For Ice Cream But Also Just All The Time And For No Reason (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
― ufo, Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:49 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
ufo listen to insomniac more
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
i thought the last two everclear albums were pretty ok for what they are. art alexakis' voice has definitely lost a lot of the (minimal) range it used to have, weird seeing them during summerland in 2013(?) and noticing that all of the hits were being played a step down
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 2 July 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link
Everclear's playing here next week as part of a package tour with Living Colour, Hoobastank, and Wheatus.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 July 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
jfc Living Colour is going to kill the other bands on that bill
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 July 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
Well, yeah.
Looking deeper, that package tour (Summerland) dates back to 2012, and is the brainchild of Alexakis and Mark McGrath. Other washed-up bands featured in prior lineups include:
Sugar Ray (duh)Marcy PlaygroundLitSpongeFilterLiveGin BlossomsEve 6SpacehogSoul AsylumFuelToadiesAmerican HiFiLocal H
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 July 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
UMS has a Spacehog tattoo
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 July 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
Should mention the Summerland-participating version of Live was the sans Kowalczyk lineup.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 July 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
Summerland bands minus Living Colour would be a good poll
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 2 July 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
Soul Asylum & Gin Blossoms don’t seem to quite fit with the theme…
― delta variant blues (morrisp), Friday, 2 July 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link
only one of these bands has done a feature with godzilla
Wish Godzilla had guested on more tracks, tbh. His rhymes were always the freshest.― Hi My father very Rusted Root with me what can I do? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, July 25, 2018 5:45 AM
― Hi My father very Rusted Root with me what can I do? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, July 25, 2018 5:45 AM
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 2 July 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
Fall Out Boy have pulled out of their New York and Boston "Hella Mega" dates due to an "individual on the band's team" testing positive for COVID-19: https://t.co/U5lDOhqwxo @FallOutBoy pic.twitter.com/Lbq9Rfw6m4— Consequence (@consequence) August 4, 2021
― peace, man, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
Sugar, We're Going Down (With Covid-19)
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link
Thus calling into question the integrity of this epic lineup? Say it ain't so!
― trial by wombat (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link