"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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the hack Royal Academy Sunday painter style of it is even more repulsively bad than its subject, utter crap

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link

I want the government to send me lots of pictures of the queen, ones with JMW Turner on the back for preference

Only the stong survive (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 24 June 2021 12:02 (two years ago) link

Grim that JC are using identifiable pics of visibly Muslim women or elderly Muslim men in their articles on Batley & Spen. Why include random pics of Muslims going about their daily lives in their local area? It’s irrelevant. I’ve blurred pics so you don’t have to give JC clicks pic.twitter.com/Suyp5Mxysx

— M 🇵🇸 (@rosaluxemburgs) June 24, 2021

also the pictures have been taken in Dewsbury Market in a small town called Dewsbury which most certainly isn't a fucking part of the Batley + Spen constituency.

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 12:30 (two years ago) link

Thangam Debbonaire told female party members at a meeting last weekend that introducing free social care for disabled and older people would “give the Tories a stick to beat Labour with”

She also said that right-wing newspapers would attack the policy and that it would lose Labour the next election.

Several CLPs had passed motions calling for free social care, and a draft composite motion included two references to free social care, including a call for Labour to promise “to make the provision of all social care free to the recipient as is the case for health care under the NHS” and for social care to be “needs-based and publicly funded, free at the point of use”.

But the final version of the motion, prepared just before the meeting, expunged all mentions of free social care.

at this point I'd be happy to see these fuckers literally getting beaten with sticks.

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

"it would lose them the next election" !!!!!

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

Like the Tories need any more sticks.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

their biggest stick to beat them with is how unpopular and shit the leader is. It's now looking like they are fixing to try and stick with Kieth post Batley + Spen defeat because they are terrified at the prospect of the hard-left socialism that potential successors like Rayner or Burnhim would bring to the party 🤡🤡

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

have seen some people on Twitter trying to push Rayner to launch a challenge today

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

i know it's been said itt before but i do find labour's relentless and futile mission to get people who don't vote labour to vote for them whilst simultaneously ensuring people who do vote labour won't astonishing. their unwavering belief in this strategy is breathtaking.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

I doubt they actually believe it at this point they just hate lefties and minorities so much

Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

so much of this can only be explained by spite and racism

Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

it's complex when you are a naturally right-wing small c conservative + unprincipled and bigoted career politician who only happened to join the Labour Party because they were winning at the time or it's a family biz - because you have to pretend be moderately centre-left and nice. While at the same time saying fuck off to disabled, trans, muslim ethnic minorities, BAME communities, working poor people - a huge chunk of the non-Tory voting folks the Party needs to build a coalition with if they are really serious about ever being in power again.

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

the Spenborough Valley side of B+S (not the ilx house band, the constituency!) probably always largely voted tory because it is very white and middle class zone, but not culturally m/c. So the story that should be running isn't working class people switching to the tories - it's Kieth alienating the 20% South Asian Community voters in Batley who had helped Labour stay in power for probably at 3-4 times in recent history. But of course the voters are being blamed and called anti-Semites by the Party and the press because it's a normal country.

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

from some of their POVs they were doing fine with it until certain people got it in their heads that they didn't need to say fuck off or settle with being told to fuck off. this was perceived as a kind of contagion with the potential to derail their entire career plans and they see themselves as having only barely got it under control now, hence the need to stamp out any traces. this is more important than winning, or keeping the party together, some have said this explicitly. even if a few of them initally believed they were just doing what was necessary to achieve those goals, the goals have long become secondary, and disposable if necessary. what's that shakespeare quote about being steeped so far in blood you can't go back

Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

they want to lose if winning requires the support of the wrong kind of people. this can't be overstated and i've been trying to convince people of this for ages

Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

I can't remember which Labour prick it was it who recently said (I think it was before Hartlepool) that they are "now being more selective about which voters they are chasing". I mean such hubris when you are 14-18 pts behind the tories - oh we don't want any of the rubbish elements of society voting for us, just the high quality voters thank you very much. It might have been Mandelson, actually.

calzino, Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

blair said something similar, semi-retired elders are more willing to be candid about it

Left, Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

i know it's been said itt before but i do find labour's relentless and futile mission to get people who don't vote labour to vote for them whilst simultaneously ensuring people who do vote labour won't astonishing. their unwavering belief in this strategy is breathtaking.

Perfect summary

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

Grim grim prospect that it's shagging a mate that he hired that will do for Matt Hancock.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 June 2021 07:16 (two years ago) link

His boss is Boris Johnson.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2021 07:21 (two years ago) link

Noted foe of hypocrisy!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 June 2021 07:27 (two years ago) link

This would be a very fortuitous way (suspiciously so) to ditch a problem minister for any PM other Boris Johnson.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2021 07:35 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/vrCXnJ6eY6

— Mr J.T. English 🇵🇸 (@JailTheEnglish) June 25, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 June 2021 07:38 (two years ago) link

are they saving the cctv footage of Kieth shagging the mate he hired in his office until the next election?

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 08:15 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/24/keir-starmer-tells-pm-to-ditch-yacht-and-tackle-antisocial-behaviour

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4tXsoNXoAA7yRy?format=jpg&name=large

11 years of austerity stripping public services to the bone, nearly 3 million people using foodbanks and all this fucking cunt cares about is people rarsing quadbikes about near posh neighbourhoods. I had to check if this wasn't some parody.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 08:56 (two years ago) link

lol just found out that hancock's arcuri is married to oliver bonas

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 09:02 (two years ago) link

what even is oliver bonas i have long wondered

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 09:03 (two years ago) link

as someone already said, imagine the despair of being cucked by Hancock - jeez you might as well give up.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:06 (two years ago) link

she's got oliver boners?

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 June 2021 09:08 (two years ago) link

https://cdn.rt.emap.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/04/03084415/Oliver-Bonas-for-web.jpg

the cuck is called Oliver Tress and he's a top fashion guru or something!

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:17 (two years ago) link

no he owns oliver bonas which is like a weird gift shop that sells high street officewear

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 09:19 (two years ago) link

when you apply for a Tory govt minister aide vacancy I wonder if there is a: are you either a millionaire or married to a millionaire yes/no bit on the application form

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:25 (two years ago) link

how far back does the "party of law and order" bullshit go? see also "party of business" I guess

nashwan, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:28 (two years ago) link

if Debbonaire insists all their policy making is subject to Conservative Party approval and the right-wing press getting the final word, then a very fine opposition party they are.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:32 (two years ago) link

National treasure Mary Beard there, defending the appointment of George Osborne as part of their efforts to make the British Museum, and I quote, "more diverse" https://t.co/PiWEWt9aBp

— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) June 25, 2021

another from the bbc history dept I'm cancelling forever.

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 09:41 (two years ago) link

Mary beard is pretty horrible

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:18 (two years ago) link

A real know your place pleb peddler in the great reithian tradition

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:19 (two years ago) link

I have always wanted to like Mary because she consistently takes flak from scumbags but she is responsible for some of the stupidest bits of narration I've ever heard in a TV history doc

Also she's clearly a fucking tory ffs

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:23 (two years ago) link

Mary Beard is bad for other reasons Plax is probably alluding to but it doesn’t look like she’s defending appointing Osborne on diversity grounds there.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:29 (two years ago) link

I think her comments about the Oxfam scandals and subsequent behaviour when called out was pretty gross and very much in line with pretty grim pronouncements on Rhodes must fall etc. I think her main commitment is to institutions and power and whether or not she realises how commensurate this is with white supremacy is of little interest to me but seemingly to her also

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:32 (two years ago) link

but claiming they are committed to diversity after appointing Gideon is pretty much the same as imo

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

I found the moment when I gave up on her:

Mary Beard's Julius Caesar documentary this week was so bad that I turned it off twice.

Opening pointless scene of somebody giving birth, "not many people know that the C in C Section stands for Caesarean" ffs, turned over

Flipped back 30 minutes later "not many people know that July is named after Julius Caesar" ffmfffs, OFF

― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 September 2020 14:04 (nine months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:35 (two years ago) link

is it too late to note that rolf's royal portrait resembles no one so much as rory mcgrath

mark s, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:35 (two years ago) link

the moral arc of an ilx thread can be long, but it bends toward rory mcgrath

― mark s, Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:49 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 20:20 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

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mark s, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:36 (two years ago) link

omg - it's true what they say - the eyes follow you

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:38 (two years ago) link

Lol dying at "not many know that everything is named after Julius Caesar"

plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2021 10:49 (two years ago) link

I can accept that some of the more mildly left-wing history profs might not get space on the bbc in the current milieu, but that doesn't strictly mean the horribly meltish + tory ones have to be so fucking tedious and unwatchable!

calzino, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:58 (two years ago) link

mark s at 11:35 25 Jun 21
is it too late to note that rolf's royal portrait resembles no one so much as rory mcgrath
I think it looks more like the man rolf himself, inserted into the queen's face in a windowlicker style

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 June 2021 11:03 (two years ago) link

Shouldn't she have a kangaroo peeking out from under her crown or something?

Take me home, Jordan Rhodes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 June 2021 11:12 (two years ago) link


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