Definitely that but relatedly some serious Douglas Adams vibes too, it wasn’t called an ark for nothing. Best episode yet, especially for being essentially a bottle episode at that.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 June 2021 05:02 (two years ago) link
Oh yeah, definitely caught some Hitchhiker vibes, too
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 24 June 2021 05:40 (two years ago) link
There is a cast of dozens, almost none of the regulars appear, and all but one (used for thirty seconds) of the sets was new to this ep iirc - that's the opposite of a money-saving bottle episode! Seems likely that Adams' Ark was inspired by Who, fwiw: he'd already been mailing pitches in when Doctor Who's serial The Ark In Space ran in 1975, and got a meeting & pitched a story called The Krikkitmen in 1976, directly to the author of Ark In Space, who was also the equivalent of a head writer/showrunner at the time*. Adams got his first freelance commission as a writer for the show by pitching with the pilot script of Hitchhikers in 1977, and had to get John Lloyd to write the later eps of the first series with/for him bcz he was busy with that Who four-parter.
Having gotten hired as a BBC radio producer after that first HHTTG series was produced, he became Who's "~showrunner~" six months later in October 1978, while his first serial as writer was going to air (his first obvious rewriting is on the final ep of Season 16). It took six months of rescheduled studio bookings to get the five episodes of Hitchhiker's second series - including the Golgafrincham B-Ark plotline - done, as Adams repeatedly failed to complete the scripts, due to simultaneously working on the HHTTG novel, stage play, LP and having a full-time day job on Who.
So Long And Thanks For All The Fish is basically the first** piece of Hitchhikers after the pilot episode that wasn't bashed out in a panic as a side-project from, or reworking of, Doctor Who!
* (Adams later rewrote the pitch as a Doctor Who And The Krikkitmen feature film in 1980, and re-rewrote as the third HHTTG novel when that went nowhere.) ((The first Dirk Gently novel is also a reworking of two of his Who serials, down to still including a TARDIS, dematerialising so the sofa gets stuck.))
** or only, if your headcanon rightly doesn't include Mostly Harmless.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 24 June 2021 06:15 (two years ago) link
Well, conceptual bottle if you like, didn’t expect most of the episode to be the two of them just talking!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 June 2021 06:23 (two years ago) link
the sicbot will not tolerate your puny human asides<3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 June 2021 06:50 (two years ago) link
Both the first two episodes also (seemed to me to be saving money by) having half the running time be two ppl in a room talking - either Wilson and Loki, or Wilson and boss. Though the sets look to be almost entirely digital, and I wonder if that's because it's cheaper, or just safer in covid times, and actually more expensive.
(This interview with the bloke who novelised Krikkitmen in 2018 claims that the Golgafrincham plot was actually reworked from a Who pitch that was rejected because he'd clearly been too closely inspired by Ark In Space! Which I've never heard before, but since this guy had access to Adams' archives in order to write these and other novelisations...)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 24 June 2021 06:59 (two years ago) link
I appreciate all of Loki's confusing and elaborate metaphors.
This show looks really good for an MCU thingy - loved the purple skyline with the asteroids falling all around a dying planet
― Roz, Thursday, 24 June 2021 10:42 (two years ago) link
Wasn't sure at first how I felt at first about the abrupt, Owen-free segue this episode but it won me over. Long unbroken action shots are turning out to be my crack, it seems, so I was a big fan of the end sequence.
― Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 June 2021 11:06 (two years ago) link
Can we get the Loki show runner to take over Doctor Who and commission a Snowpiercer episode?
― an eco-conscious Music Box (DJP), Thursday, 24 June 2021 12:23 (two years ago) link
Yes please - I still can’t get through the Chibnall era and it bums me out so much cause I love Jodie Whittaker.
Kate Herron is a director on Sex Education too, she seems pretty fantastic so far.
― Roz, Thursday, 24 June 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link
The director of all the Capaldi Who two-part season finales is watching Loki:
Loki ep 3 (spoiler, opinion) -- first third pure Doctor Who, a really beautifully choreographed fight, 2nd third a lot of talking that's like, um, wha?, last third amazing action putting Who budget to bed in the first three shots. I found the action particularly engaging.— Rachel Talalay (@rtalalay) June 24, 2021
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
From the moment I joined @LokiOfficial it was very important to me, and my goal, to acknowledge Loki was bisexual. It is a part of who he is and who I am too. I know this is a small step but I’m happy, and heart is so full, to say that this is now Canon in #mcu #Loki 💗💜💙 pic.twitter.com/lz3KJbewx8— Kate Herron (@iamkateherron) June 23, 2021
Which is awesome though I did wonder if there are parts of the community who will be unhappy at the higher percentage of bi visibility that are now trickster gods of lies.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 24 June 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link
The FX and direction are *really• impressive. And somehow manages to be flamboyant without being Fukunaga-ishly "look at me!!!"
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 24 June 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
"my sole personal intent in taking this job was to represent bisexuality by making it clear that the most self-interested and mendacious people in the world will take advantage of either binary gender if it suits their own nefarious purposes 🌈"
it worked for John Constantine though, so
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 24 June 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
Meantime in movie world
Watch the brand-new trailer for Marvel Studios’ #ShangChi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and experience it only in theaters September 3. pic.twitter.com/JMypllwDK9— Marvel Studios (@MarvelStudios) June 25, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 June 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link
Finally caught up with last week's "Loki," which was fun, but ... I can't tell if some of the scenes, particularly the action scenes, were clunky because of Covid, or clunky just because they're clunky. Same thing with a bunch of Falcon and the Winter Snowman. Like the instructions were something like, "ok, stay six feet apart but pretend you're punching people, which we'll add later, along with the set and the FX. And then we'll use more FX to move you and your sparring partners closer together." Which can't be that different from how these things often are, so maybe it's just because I'm paying closer attention the seams seem to be a little less seamless.
Anyway, this episode also felt very much like a "Mandalorian" episode.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 June 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link
Ha I very much said that last point at a couple of times.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
Falcon and the Winter Snowman
i'm assuming the "winter snowman" eventually becomes captain canada
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
Post-credits scene this week, and more timey wimey shenanigans
― Roz, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link
I was going to say, THAT was a final shot cameo.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 July 2021 04:57 (two years ago) link
no idea what that final shot was all about or who but it was a v enjoyable episode
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 July 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link
Does explain all the random “RICHARD GRANT!” posts on my Twitter timeline. I just thought people were celebrating him for being him, which is always a good idea.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 July 2021 05:07 (two years ago) link
I am extremely happy about the show’s wholesale embrace of peak nu-Who and would gladly watch any sort of crossover as long as it wasn’t run by Chibnall
― an eco-conscious Music Box (DJP), Thursday, 1 July 2021 09:46 (two years ago) link
Haha I didnt even realise it was REG til the credit came up afterward I went WHAAAAAT and had to rewind it. Whats with his absurd undies-on-outside and handbag lol.
They were more Lokis werent they? Did one have Thor's hammer??
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 1 July 2021 10:36 (two years ago) link
Also, Alligator Loki?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 July 2021 12:21 (two years ago) link
there was a frog thor for a while, why not a gator loki
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 July 2021 12:25 (two years ago) link
Frog Thor was anthropomorphized, wasn't he? I like the idea of Loki as an alligator full-stop, no opposable thumbs and all. Like, how would you even know if it was a Loki if it couldn't talk? And wouldn't someone have to stick the crown on it? I find that really funny. Like, "we're not sure this alligator is even a Loki, but we crowned it, just in case. Helps us keep it apart from the other alligators."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 July 2021 12:39 (two years ago) link
Haha I didnt even realise it was REG til the credit came up afterward I went WHAAAAAT and had to rewind it
― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Thursday, 1 July 2021 12:43 (two years ago) link
A little more about all them new variantshttps://gizmodo.com/how-lokis-mid-credits-revealed-the-most-promising-part-1847205559
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
watched all four of these today. owen wilson is really good! the fight scenes are whatevs
needs more pillboi tho
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link
lol the existence of pillboi's character should've had the tva question whether they were products of divine creation far earlier on
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
*questioning
From the Giz story comments:https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_1165/3c6b151641a989023543f8d0eb5e0b3d.jpg
― DJI, Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
lol!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link
I'm hoping that in his past life Mobius was Owen Wilson.
Who is really enjoyable in this, absolutely lovely to see new acting multiverses opening up to him.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 July 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
"Maybe I rode a jetski". I hope he is somewhere else after his pruning.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 2 July 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link
...sorry, how spoilery are we allowed to be here doh.
Though the sets look to be almost entirely digital
the hand-to-hand combat in this covid-safe filming looked pretty dire BUT at least 100x better than the big fights in Endgame
(forgot that Eugene Cordero played Pillboi, was confused by this thread briefly)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 2 July 2021 04:30 (two years ago) link
can't believe i out-pillboied sic
what a moment
― mookieproof, Friday, 2 July 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link
he's still Tito Ben to me
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 2 July 2021 06:49 (two years ago) link
I'm only on episode 2 of Loki but this show is VERY MUCH MY SHIT. I thought WandaVision was going to be the whole reason I caught up with the MCU but how wrong I was.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 2 July 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
lol @ Loki using classical Latin pronunciation at [scene of historical disaster]. Also I love the design of everything so much. Love the orange, love the midcentury vibe that somehow looks both futuristic and regrettably dated at the same time.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 2 July 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link
please tell me you watched Legion, in orbit.
― DJI, Friday, 2 July 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
Never even heard of it! I’ve been catching up via Disney+ (for my sins)—I’ll see if Legion is available.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 2 July 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
i think it’s on hulu (perhaps)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 July 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
It's on Hulu. Check it out, and report back (if you feel like it)!
― DJI, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
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Most inspired casting ever.
― Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link
Give him credit just for being willing to wear the classic costume alone!
― Nhex, Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
he clearly had a whale of a time
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
man that was a great episodetheyve all been great obv but this felt like a full-on adventure
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link