US Politics June 2021 - "Where we're going, we don't NEED bipartisanship"

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"i have the novel coronavirus"

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link

"i am scorpion"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

"I have an autoimmune disorder, plus my mother is staying with me while she recuperates from cancer surgery. So mind your own fucking business"

Just skip to those last five words IMO. Of course, I am a 6'2" white man.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

surprising absolutely no one, first capitol rioter sentenced gets a gentle slap on the wrist

Breaking News: An Indiana woman was the first to be sentenced over the Capitol riot. She won’t serve time in prison after making a deal with the government and pleading guilty to a misdemeanor. She received three years probation and agreed to pay $500. https://t.co/tcJ36UbcD1

— The New York Times (@nytimes) June 23, 2021

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link

article doesn't exactly make the case that they should have thrown the book at her

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link

yeah really

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link

not really arguing that she should have, still seems like a light sentence to me and not what anyone with darker skin would have walked away with in a similar situation

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

Dude passed me on the interstate just a few minutes ago and got off the exit here in a big black souped up pickup truck with a bumper sticker that said 'If you are wearing a mask in your car, you don't need a Biden sticker because we already know.' He also had a second bumper sticker with 'I'm pro-pipeline as this truck does not run on wishes and unicorn farts.' Oddly enough he did not have any gun stickers...which is a pretty damn normal thing around here. My favorite recent one I have been seeing is the different sized guns lined up like those cartoon ones of the mom, dad, kids and the dog -except going down from m-16 to shotgun to big hand gun to 9mm to snub-nose gun' like a family picture.

earlnash, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

not what anyone with darker skin would have walked away with in a similar situation

see also every other sentencing

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

I've seen that gun family album too.

Like this?

https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_3anPVXXXXciXVXXq6xXFXXXB.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link

see also every other sentencing

oh okay, "it's happened before so it's okay here too"

gotta say i didn't expect ilxors to start caping for the capitol rioters for saying i think she got a light sentence.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

i mean, i know you guys aren't literally defending her, just surprised that those were the first two responses. tbr, i think all of them should get the book thrown at them to prevent this from happening again but what do i know?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

I don't really care about the rioters tbh (other than the ones who actually did or threatened violence), I care about the ringleaders and propagandists who will never face a day in court

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

if any of the current wave of GOP fascists gets in office, they'll direct their DOJ to start arresting left activists and throw the book at them

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

but it's ok joe manchin, you have to save democracy we all understand

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS MANCHIN

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

She got off very lightly but here's the judge's reasoning:

Judge Lamberth said Morgan-Lloyd avoided jail time because she didn't participate in the violence and condemned those who did.

"Some of these defendants are not going to do what you did. They're not going to say they did anything wrong. They, to this day, would still participate in the demonstration," Lamberth said. "... I don't want to create the impression that probation is the automatic outcome here, because it's not going to be."
Still, the judge said what happened on January 6 was "a serious crime" and a "disgrace" to the country.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

XP Manchin was Esteban Buttez

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

Sounds like the judge is giving future defendants instructions on how to avoid harsh sentences.

nickn, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

I wonder how judges are being assigned in all these prosecutions?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

Apologies if this has already been shared here and I missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h535TzrcjUE

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link

wow

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

Go General Milley!

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link

I don't wanna side with a fucking general, but that's an excellent response.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link

Hopefully Gaetz will revisit these moments in his mind while he's being sentenced.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link

Apologies for backtracking, but the NYT article really made it seem like this woman didn't do a whole lot compared to many rioters who were videotaped being violent and destructive, the judge is portrayed as being very serious about the entire event, and the prosecutors argued for no jail time.

And while it's true that non-white defendants don't often get the same light treatment, harsher sentences for all is not really the solution needed to reform our broken criminal justice system.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 24 June 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link

there are sentencing guidelines in federal court and a person like her who accepts responsibility is going to get probation when the government recommends it. you can't really say "anyone with darker skin" would have done worse in this individual case anyway. you don't know that and that isn't how it works. in the aggregate/trends, yes, but for smaller offenses (this was disorderly conduct) defendants of all races/groups get probation all the time, even from conservative judges. sorry for caping for rioters, i just feel there's no reason to get mad about this one lady.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 24 June 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link

Just dropping in unrelated to anything else to note I’m very tired of America and we should wrap the whole thing up.

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link

now we're getting somewhere

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link

Texas should leave first

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link

WTF?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:34 (two years ago) link

CUT! i think we have more than enough footage, that's a wrap

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

The Texas Civil War would start about fifteen seconds after we seceded.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 03:16 (two years ago) link

America was a joke and the comic has been getting booed for hours and he still tells it

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link

and the name of that joke was...

THE ARISTOCRATS!

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 24 June 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link

Keep it classy Gaetz, you are going to have a good time in prison mf'er.

earlnash, Thursday, 24 June 2021 08:19 (two years ago) link

Chris Rufo, the Koch "think" tank ghoul, on actual academic Critical Race Theory discussion "I don't give a shit about this stuff"

also admits he's "ignorant" of CRT and won't debate because he doesn't know or care


Not just the same tactics as the Tea Party but even the same think tanks? (Or at least the same backers)

In 1984, David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch of Koch Industries founded Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE), a conservative political group whose self-described mission was "to fight for less government, lower taxes, and less regulation." Congressman Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization. The CSE lobbied for policies favorable to corporations, particularly tobacco companies.[75]

In 2002, a Tea Party website was designed and published by the CSE at web address www.usteaparty.com, and stated β€œeven in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense... for the animals are coming.”


Actually the last quote was literally transcribed from a Ron Paul newsletter, my bad.

My intention is certainly not to minimize the significance of these movements as reactionary expressions of white supremacy, just to map out the connections somewhat.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 24 June 2021 10:56 (two years ago) link

Also that little rant by Mr Milley was frickin awesome, general or no.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 24 June 2021 10:59 (two years ago) link

America was a joke and the comic has been getting booed for hours and he still tells it

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31C81MR6K4L.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 June 2021 12:40 (two years ago) link

Nancy Pelosi making some moves today on a select committee for 1/6 and on getting the reconciliation package done ahead of infrastructure. I think this is a smart direction for her, taking a more aggressive stance and recognizing the political reality that these things will only happen if she makes them happen.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link

Oh no, how is he going to put food on the table now, poor Rooty

Pobrecito

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

any one of us could probably just call rudy right now and tell him we know where to find money, he is open to all leads

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

Probably on a nightly basis:
"Hi! Uh.. is Donald near the phone?"
"No."
"Mmmkkayy.. you see, I just need a little help to tide me over until..."
<Click>
"Hello?"

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

I tried calling but all I heard was muffled voices and the rustling of cloth and the occasional fart, for roughly twenty minutes before the line went dead

the democrats

As Portman mentions here, Trump proposed a $2 trillion infrastructure plan. So the compromise bill Biden agreed to here not only includes zero of the taxes he originally proposed but is less than half the size of the proposal of the leader of the party with which he compromised https://t.co/8NV0xiprtZ

— Steve Morris (@stevemorris__) June 24, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs

What the hell, is this 1953?
I don't even know what he's talking about... I follow the wrathful, spiteful god Crom, does he really care?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

xpost - Fuckin' Sinema really working hard to push herself front and center for the cameras. Guess the attention for her little thumbs down flourish wore off a little.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link


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