US Politics June 2021 - "Where we're going, we don't NEED bipartisanship"

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Watch: Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, just now on Critical Race Theory, ‘Wokeness’ & Jan. 6. “I’ve read Karl Marx. I’ve read Lenin. That doesn’t make me a communist. So what is wrong with understanding...the country which we are here to defend?” pic.twitter.com/KsRtOoWN0w

— James LaPorta (@JimLaPorta) June 23, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

Today is #NationalHydrationDay! Proper hydration is not only vital to living a healthy life, but critical for our officers and agents ensuring America’s safety as things get intense under the hot summer sun. Stay hydrated to avoid heat related illnesses. pic.twitter.com/Dx2xv6FUaB

— CBP (@CBP) June 23, 2021

This is CBP trolling right? They know the replies are going to be about their destruction of humanitarian aid and it makes them chuckle.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

President Biden is expected to address a rise in gun violence in many cities, saying funding from a Covid-19 relief package could go toward hiring more law-enforcement personnel https://t.co/1cIQ4k5c1p

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) June 23, 2021

Defund the police you said, Mack?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

this stuff is getting closer and closer. and personally, i am done with just smiling and moving on. it is coming for you.

Yeah. A friend of mine just posted about her experience today (here in Tennessee) while quietly wearing a mask and waiting to pick up food at a local restaurant. (She posted a video of a portion of the encounter, and it was just as she relates, the hatred in the guy's voice is astonishing.) She is not someone well equipped to say a loud no, and obviously no one in this situation intervened for her:

I was verbally attacked at a neighborhood Asian restaurant last Friday for wearing a face mask while waiting on my takeout order. Once I got out my phone to record he was just about finished admonishing me to hell and back.

The Hater screamed at me as he walked in the the door, maybe he noticed me from the parking lot somehow. I was called a b*tch, a lunatic, a c*nt, an idiot, a f*cking piece of sh*t and a f*cking loser, many times over. I also learned that I am emphatically going to hell, and the (unknown) tables have turned. I was told repeatedly to take the damn mask off. And wow am I doomed for hell while he is destined for heaven. This went on for a few minutes. He was quite tall, he was white. He had two low odd tiny hair buns on the back of his greasy head, black hair parted down the middle. He wore flip flops with his khakis. He looked like a hippy. He spoke politely to the woman behind the counter but would immediately turn around to scream at me. I was expecting him to smack me in the face, yank my mask off, maybe punch my head as I sat right there so close to the counter. I was scared he would scream at or hit the old Asian woman at the counter. I imagined she was someone’s mother, grandmother, sister. So tiny.

Here’s The Thing. I sat there and just accepted it. I said, “Ok” multiple times. I didn’t raise my voice. I didn’t push back. I was motionless and I held my breath. And I froze, just like I do when people touch me, or corner me, or surprise me. Especially men. And there is some truth to what he said about me. So I sat with it and soaked it in. Trauma is one of my comfort zones.

Here’s Another Thing. There were only 2 other customers than me and The Hater: 1) a young maskless white guy sitting in the corner. He was wearing USA sandals and a baseball cap. He was a slob in shorts and a big tshirt who ordered crab “ragoons.” He laughed in the corner with his hat lowered. The whole time. I believe he was also recording it. My eyes returned to him time and time again. And 2), a young masked Asian guy, sitting silently nearer to me with his head down.

...Per my dad’s request I called the police the next day, to warn them that The Hater would do this again, and maybe at some point cause physical harm. The polite and seasoned 30 year officer said there are no laws against being rude and screaming at people so they couldn’t throw him in jail. But that’s not what I wanted. I asked how to handle it the next time. He suggested that I could comply and remove my mask; that I could just leave; that I never return to the restaurant because they weren’t willing to refuse service; that I could push back verbally, but wouldn’t recommend it. He also mentioned that maybe The Hater was manic one second and not the next. Of course he said this.
Lessons learned and relearned? White men have all the power, with impunity and cultural and institutional endorsements, to oppress, control, and perpetrate violence in all its forms. They have the luxury in weakness to choose ignorance and entertainment, acting as an accomplice, over compassion and intervention. They can be theatrically outraged yet do nothing in the short or long term without consequence. The silence is a remarkable feat.

I just heard a kook on the street corner tell a masked woman: "You don't have to wear that! this ain't nazi germany!"
And this in the Bay Area.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

I will intimidate you into not wearing something by appealing to your freedom while making you feel like you have none

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

my friend showed me a pic of Trumpers with shirts and flags on the side of a major intersection, almost as if it's 2016 again.

if they're still there when I drive by (it's on my way to her house), I am going to engage

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

man, look out

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

my plan is to wait until i see one with a covid-hoax sign, and then go get my ass kicked

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

what the actual fuck, that makes me so angry on so many levels. i get that the police aren't going to rush out to arrest thus guy, but jfc that every single "way to handle it" gives the abuser the "win" and further incentive to keep on attacking people. fucking awful and at the risk of doomposting, this country is irredeemably fucked.

tipsy, i am sincerely sorry that happened to your friend. that's awful and must have been terrifying.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

it's legal to run them over in Florida now, right?

xp to Neanderthal

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

fuck i looked right past that post.

most anger when I read this

He suggested that I could comply and remove my mask

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

Yeah, she was traumatized, her husband of was in a rage when she went home and told him and wanted to go try to find the guy or something (she talked him down from that). I know the restaurant and the small older woman who works there, I'm sure she felt helpless to order the guy out. Really awful.

also really pissed at the guy who recorded the whole thing like it was funny.

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

He suggested that I could comply and remove my mask

pigs gonna pig

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

"I have an autoimmune disorder, plus my mother is staying with me while she recuperates from cancer surgery. So mind your own fucking business"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link

"i have the novel coronavirus"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link

"i am scorpion"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

"I have an autoimmune disorder, plus my mother is staying with me while she recuperates from cancer surgery. So mind your own fucking business"

Just skip to those last five words IMO. Of course, I am a 6'2" white man.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

surprising absolutely no one, first capitol rioter sentenced gets a gentle slap on the wrist

Breaking News: An Indiana woman was the first to be sentenced over the Capitol riot. She won’t serve time in prison after making a deal with the government and pleading guilty to a misdemeanor. She received three years probation and agreed to pay $500. https://t.co/tcJ36UbcD1

— The New York Times (@nytimes) June 23, 2021

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link

article doesn't exactly make the case that they should have thrown the book at her

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link

yeah really

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link

not really arguing that she should have, still seems like a light sentence to me and not what anyone with darker skin would have walked away with in a similar situation

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

Dude passed me on the interstate just a few minutes ago and got off the exit here in a big black souped up pickup truck with a bumper sticker that said 'If you are wearing a mask in your car, you don't need a Biden sticker because we already know.' He also had a second bumper sticker with 'I'm pro-pipeline as this truck does not run on wishes and unicorn farts.' Oddly enough he did not have any gun stickers...which is a pretty damn normal thing around here. My favorite recent one I have been seeing is the different sized guns lined up like those cartoon ones of the mom, dad, kids and the dog -except going down from m-16 to shotgun to big hand gun to 9mm to snub-nose gun' like a family picture.

earlnash, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

not what anyone with darker skin would have walked away with in a similar situation

see also every other sentencing

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

I've seen that gun family album too.

Like this?

https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_3anPVXXXXciXVXXq6xXFXXXB.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link

see also every other sentencing

oh okay, "it's happened before so it's okay here too"

gotta say i didn't expect ilxors to start caping for the capitol rioters for saying i think she got a light sentence.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

i mean, i know you guys aren't literally defending her, just surprised that those were the first two responses. tbr, i think all of them should get the book thrown at them to prevent this from happening again but what do i know?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

I don't really care about the rioters tbh (other than the ones who actually did or threatened violence), I care about the ringleaders and propagandists who will never face a day in court

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

if any of the current wave of GOP fascists gets in office, they'll direct their DOJ to start arresting left activists and throw the book at them

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

but it's ok joe manchin, you have to save democracy we all understand

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS MANCHIN

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

She got off very lightly but here's the judge's reasoning:

Judge Lamberth said Morgan-Lloyd avoided jail time because she didn't participate in the violence and condemned those who did.

"Some of these defendants are not going to do what you did. They're not going to say they did anything wrong. They, to this day, would still participate in the demonstration," Lamberth said. "... I don't want to create the impression that probation is the automatic outcome here, because it's not going to be."
Still, the judge said what happened on January 6 was "a serious crime" and a "disgrace" to the country.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

XP Manchin was Esteban Buttez

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

Sounds like the judge is giving future defendants instructions on how to avoid harsh sentences.

nickn, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

I wonder how judges are being assigned in all these prosecutions?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

Apologies if this has already been shared here and I missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h535TzrcjUE

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link

wow

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

Go General Milley!

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link

I don't wanna side with a fucking general, but that's an excellent response.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link

Hopefully Gaetz will revisit these moments in his mind while he's being sentenced.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 24 June 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link

Apologies for backtracking, but the NYT article really made it seem like this woman didn't do a whole lot compared to many rioters who were videotaped being violent and destructive, the judge is portrayed as being very serious about the entire event, and the prosecutors argued for no jail time.

And while it's true that non-white defendants don't often get the same light treatment, harsher sentences for all is not really the solution needed to reform our broken criminal justice system.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 24 June 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link

there are sentencing guidelines in federal court and a person like her who accepts responsibility is going to get probation when the government recommends it. you can't really say "anyone with darker skin" would have done worse in this individual case anyway. you don't know that and that isn't how it works. in the aggregate/trends, yes, but for smaller offenses (this was disorderly conduct) defendants of all races/groups get probation all the time, even from conservative judges. sorry for caping for rioters, i just feel there's no reason to get mad about this one lady.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 24 June 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link

Just dropping in unrelated to anything else to note I’m very tired of America and we should wrap the whole thing up.

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link

now we're getting somewhere

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link

Texas should leave first

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link

WTF?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 24 June 2021 02:34 (two years ago) link

CUT! i think we have more than enough footage, that's a wrap

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 June 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

The Texas Civil War would start about fifteen seconds after we seceded.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 03:16 (two years ago) link


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