Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

this is the same thing they did in buffalo though. they're still cops they just don't want to be on the g.i. joe military combat police team anymore because their feelings got hurted

o no who will shoot tear gas at us now?

hahahahaha

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/us/police-resignations-protests-asheville.html

so many great lines, but this is my favorite

"It takes roughly a year to train new officers in Asheville, and of seven who started in December, six have already quit, Chief Zack said."

officers said they were asked to handle too much; they were constantly thrown at tangled societal problems like mental health breakdowns or drug overdoses, they said, for which they were ill-equipped

It’s almost as if these problems require a different solution other than a police officer

I mean this is the actual text of the Defind The Police movement, isn't it?

Lol Asheville, who will protect the 1,000 microbreweries now?

22.5 years for Chauvin

May his name be erased

Absolutely not

May he be another George Zimmerman

Zimmerman is a folk-hero to some Trumplings

The worst Jewish curse is יִמַּח שְׁמוֹ וְזִכְרוֹ (Yimach shemo ve-zichro -- May his name and his memory be erased).

see also damnatio memoriae

I agree with DJP. Erasing his name helps the right's efforts to whitewash the country's history of racial violence.

silby is jewish

i suspect the jewish meaning of this phrase is entirely different than 'ignoring that he killed a man'

it's all situational.

whether intentional or not, committing a sufficiently heinous crime confers infamy on a person, which can also grant them a kind of immortality. Adolph Hitler will not soon be forgotten. that's the sort of thing the jewish proverb is intended to address.

otoh, living with universal infamy, if you have no resources or ability to cushion yourself from the hatred you inspire, can make the rest of your life a living hell. you're a leper until you die. that's probably more what DJP has in mind for derek c.

thank's

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Asheville, such a case study of a neoliberal dystopia. It has always had terrrible income inequality, there was never really any sustainable basis for economic development there. Only over the past 30 years has there been much real growth in the economy at all, and that's almost entirely thanks to "winterbirds" from FL buying their second or third homes, and some tourist money coming in. None of which improved the income inequality.

At least there was a time when the Democrat-controlled state government seemed to be making moves in the right direction, but then they got ousted and the R's took over, killing any chance at development leading to any real social progress.

It is also the most corrupt police department I've seen in the USA. Idk about recent years but not that long ago, the main and very obvious place to buy drugs there was behind the main police station. I don't mean somewhere near the station, I mean you walk out the back door of the cop shop and directly in front of you is a flourishing open-air drug market.

I’ve been to Asheville a couple times. it seemed nice.

That's how they fool you.

Twelve or so years ago my friend and her boyfriend were able to rent a little house by a river there, out in the country but within walking distance of the college, for what seemed to me like a shockingly low monthly rent. He was a broke college student and she was a nanny, but they had a decent quality of life. That's always made me think well of Asheville. Sad to hear it's not really like that.

it’s just impossible to exaggerate how dramatically and reflexively cops lie https://t.co/EafrapGZmp pic.twitter.com/j0AE2J5Lak

— matthew (@pi_maxiu) June 27, 2021

my god that is fucked up

oh boy

https://newsone.com/4171746/minneapolis-police-kill-darnella-frazier-uncle/

Yeah, that's fucking awful. That poor girl.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8xbq/police-are-telling-shotspotter-to-alter-evidence-from-gunshot-detecting-ai

Antifa Bus

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/23/revealed-california-police-antifa-misinformation?

Partly a huge stupid game of telephone until the idiot Humboldt sheriff says “we have confirmed reports of antifa buses in Redding whipping shittys.”

also a group of racists being racist

pretty fuckin much

said this before, but NorCal and Oregon are pretty comparable to the most racist parts of the south, just with more crystals, weed, and woo-woo shit.

I think this is frankly just true of any rural areas in the US now.

It's always been true.

Content warning chait but he’s not wrong

Cops threatening to quit over vaccine mandates is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reform police departments https://t.co/iMaXlf0LMV

— Jonathan Chait (@jonathanchait) August 27, 2021

“While most police officers are trying to protect people and treat the public fairly”

well, ignore this obvious falsehood and he’s right.

this charming guy who, iirc, also loudly defended the 1/6 insurrectionists:

“This has literally lit a bomb underneath the membership,” said Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara. “We’re in America, G-ddamn it. We don’t want to be forced to do anything. Period. This ain’t Nazi f---ing Germany.”

this could also be a good opportunity for red states to recruit for cops that were recently laid off for refusing to take a vaccine

Wow John Cataranza who could possibly accuse the cops of being entitled above-the-law nitwits who actually endanger the people they’re supposedly protecting?? You’ve really shut that argument right down

"You can't force Americans to follow rules, that's fascism," says man whose entire job is to force Americans to follow rules.

lmao exactly

if you wanted to scream about fascists, we literally just evicted one in January, and ya didn't seem to mind, jabroni!

Jaleel Stallings thought he was being shot at from an unmarked van by white supremacists. Only after he returned fire did he learn they were MPD officers.

He was charged with attempted murder, but police body cameras helped exonerate him: https://t.co/oMouea3He4 @deenafaywinter

— Minnesota Reformer (@MNReformer) September 1, 2021

high related, also in Minnesota:

These stories document what Somali and Black Minnesotans have been telling those who will listen our whole lives: the systems that are supposed to protect us routinely victimize and abuse us.

Believe us when we say we desperately need to reimagine these systems. pic.twitter.com/K6PAGK7Yp6

— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) September 2, 2021

pretty stoked that I’m moving to MLPS just in time to vote for dissolving the MPD

TBF Stallings was being shot at by white supremacists.

lol, exactly. it could be the proud boys, it could be the swat team, it could be the regular police. or it could just be some q_anon person who is saving the republic. they're all dudes in a white van shooting at you

great bunch of lads

Is it a homeless outreach method for the deputies that are part of LA Sheriff’s Homeless OUTREACH Services Team (HOST) to tell civilians to back away from him because he, the deputy, is unvaccinated????

Seems like a weird outreach method. 🥴🤡 https://t.co/dk2WSFUkcm pic.twitter.com/Tjdy83vJdA

— Another Adam Smith 🇵🇸 (@AdamOfTheSmiths) September 8, 2021

Chait (ugh) was right that purging the ranks of cops of the unvaccinated might be an opportunity for reform.