Defenestrate Them All: Canadian Politics 2021

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great message going into the fall election

symsymsym, Thursday, 17 June 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

more on the concentration camps in canada:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57592243

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

Remove the Catholic Church's tax exemption imo.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

the anglican church was also a part of this, so protestant churches should also bear some of the brunt of it

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

At the very least the two main protestant churches of Canada apologized decades ago.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

apologizing means accepting blame, can't be doing that!

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

and more than half of these schools were catholic.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

An estimated 6,000 children died while attending these schools, due in large part to the squalid health conditions inside.

Close to a thousand graves at just two schools...

jmm, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

yeah.

seems hard to imagine what the figure would be when accounting for all the disappeared

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

Canadian gov. should kick the door open of the churches and seize all the books in my opinion. Wouldn't be surprised if something from the judiciary happened in the next few months.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

yeah.

seems hard to imagine what the figure would be when accounting for all the disappeared

― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:23 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Considering there was 80 schools. At the current rate, it would be 40 000.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

At the very least the two main protestant churches of Canada apologized decades ago.

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:18 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sure. the canadian gov't also "apologized" years ago. the truth has been out there for years; "known secret", etc. while that was needed, apologizing really means very little. there needs to be a lot more repercussion and a lot of change

this is a good start:

http://www.trc.ca/assets/pdf/Calls_to_Action_English2.pdf

from: http://www.trc.ca/about-us/trc-findings.html

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

That's why I wrote 'at the very least'.

In my experience working with First Nations and Inuktitut for almost two years now, apologizing means a lot.

I would imagine 95% of ILX boarders are very well aware of the TRC's calls to action, findings and shortcomings.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

it is #58 out of 94 on the list. in that list, it is a small portion of the things that need to be done by all organizations that had a hand, it doesn't matter how many, in these kinds of residential schools.

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

I haven't come across a single FNIM is saying only apologizing is nearly enough. But for a lot of them, it is an essential part of the healing.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

I mean, tax all the churches. End public funding for Catholic education. What the fuck is that shit anyhow?

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link

all of this is otfm.
and abolish the senate while we’re at it. is beyak still a senator?

scanner darkly, Friday, 25 June 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

I mean, tax all the churches. End public funding for Catholic education. What the fuck is that shit anyhow?

― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:49 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah while we are at it, 100%.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 25 June 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link

co-sign

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 26 June 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

Yay, accelerated second dose bookings just opened for all Ontario adults today and I managed to book for later this afternoon. That definitely beats waiting another three months.

jmm, Monday, 28 June 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

Tomorrow morning for me

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

ontario seems to be quite ahead of BC

scanner darkly, Monday, 28 June 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

i feel like i'm the only one not rushing and waiting until 10 weeks is up before getting shot #2 (AZ was my first jab)

NEW - BC is lifting the requirement to wear a mask in public places on July 1. #bcpoli

— Richard Zussman (@richardzussman) June 29, 2021

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link

:|

got my second today (moderna). feelin' fine so far.

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link

nice one!

symsymsym, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link

I'm sure I won't stop masking up indoors anytime soon

symsymsym, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

Not really sure what to make of this story: https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/commons-speaker-intends-to-ask-court-to-strike-down-government-lawsuit-challenging-parliaments-right-to-know

On the one hand, Parliament should probably maintain its supremacy. Otoh, it seems like the reasons for the firing are clear enough - is the Opposition actually disputing this?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

“Fatalities are a part of life.” - Premier John Horgan when asked if his government should have done more to warn the public about dangers of the heat wave. #bcpoli

— Mike Smyth (@MikeSmythNews) June 29, 2021

symsymsym, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link

i feel like i'm the only one not rushing and waiting until 10 weeks is up before getting shot #2 (AZ was my first jab)

I really was fine with waiting (until late August), but it felt like there was a very vocal push to get you to reschedule, so between that and this Delta variant--of which I've now heard one end of the should-I-be-worried? spectrum to the other--I got it moved up to mid-July.

clemenza, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

I realize that's not the most sensitive thing for a Premier to say but, in practical terms, what sorts of things could the provincial government have done about a heat wave?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

funding cooling centres, communicating the possible dangers earlier...the deaths seem to be a result of underfunded and overexerted emergency reporting services, which is a failing of government. not something that could have been fixed in a week of course.

I think calling for an inquiry into what went wrong would be appropriate right now. Not downplaying a death count that is in the still being tallied.

symsymsym, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

I rushed to get my second AZ shot, bcz why not

symsymsym, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

That makes sense, sym.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

I got my second shot (the Dolly one) at a pop-up clinic on Friday. No real rush on my part—my in-person job doesn’t start until the fall—but I’m kind of over worrying about all this.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

I got my second shot moved up from mid-August to this Friday.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link

Three minutes later I rebooked an appointment on behalf of my brother, and so many time slots had been taken in that short time, that his appointment is 15 days later than mine.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 02:53 (two years ago) link

182 unmarked graves found at location of former residential school in Cranbrook, BC. Lower Kootenay Band says graves detected using ground penetrating radar at former St. Eugene's Mission School, which closed in 1970. (24-hour crisis line for anyone who needs it: 1-866-925-4419)

— CBC News Alerts (@CBCAlerts) June 30, 2021

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link

“I didn’t see any managers at any of the hospitals, I mean it was truly an emergency situation. So I don’t know whether they prepared,” Alex said. “The ambulance services is running pretty much at capacity, I mean, on a regular day we’re stretched… So when you add an emergency on top of regular operations, the system isn’t capable of handling it… It was a complete collapse.”

Many other first responder agencies activated their Emergency Operations Centres, according to Luca, but BCEHS refused to do so, despite pleas from several frontline managers and medical officers. He says doing so would have opened additional resources for setting up things like cooling stations and coordinating with partner agencies and hospitals, but the centre wasn’t activated until well into the next morning.

To make matters worse, Luca says the air conditioning in the Vancouver dispatch centre apparently cut out.

“They had to end up trying to find fans and stuff like that just to keep the centre cool. Yeah, no. No preparation of scenes whatsoever.”

symsymsym, Thursday, 1 July 2021 01:35 (two years ago) link

The story about emergency services is grim.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 1 July 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link

joe oliver is a fucking moron

symsymsym, Thursday, 1 July 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link

Oh god, I remember that column. The absolute cynicism.

jmm, Thursday, 1 July 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

The ongoing campaign on the right to somehow tar Pierre Trudeau, and by extension his son, because he was PM while residential schools never ceases to amaze; it's like if the GOP kept trying to argue that statues of FDR should be taken down because segregationist laws were in place while he was President. In this instalment, the National Post's Kelly McParland opines that PET should be condemned just as much as John A. McDonald because his government ... published a paper that was withdrawn a year later.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 2 July 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link

republicans never tire of saying things like "dEmOcRaTs sTaRtEd the KKK" while loudly protesting the removal of confederate statues, so I wouldn't look to the GOP for a model of coherence here

rob, Friday, 2 July 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

Haha, true enough. "Liberals interned the Japanese" or "PET sent troops to Quebec" would at least make sense. Not saying PET was a hero on this issue but not only did he not begin the programme, his government took it out of the hands of the Catholic Church and began phasing out the schools. The Kamloops school was closed in 78 when he was PM, for instance. It's p obvious that he's only being singled out vs every other pre-1996 PM because he was the father of the current PM.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 2 July 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link


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