wau and lol @ that Drunken Canal story.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
great news!pitchfork is unionized (#1 in a series.)
.@p4kunion, @newyorkerunion, and @ars_union are thrilled to announce that after 2-and-a-half years of negotiations with @CondeNast, we have reached an agreement in principle on our first contracts and averted a strike.đHere are some of our wins: (1/9)— Pitchfork Union (@p4kunion) June 16, 2021
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link
starting to think the pitchfork is poptimist tweet was an anti-union psyop...
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link
oh hey the wolf alice review finally arrived and it mostly sucks lol
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link
been a while since I've seen a review tie itself in knots explaining its critical position quite this much
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link
Ian Cohen shitty review shocka
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link
the Sinead O'Connor review today is fantastic. I'm not normally a big fan of reviews steeped in biographical detail but I think Sodomsky's done a great job of tying her origins and story to how her music sounds and why it's so excellent.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 20 June 2021 10:43 (two years ago) link
Yeah itâs so good â and he does it right! He weaves those key details throughout a piece thatâs squarely focused on the album. (These Sunday reviews often feel like exhaustive biographical essays with a few paragraphs on the album being âreviewed.â)
― search term: buttrock (morrisp), Sunday, 20 June 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
dammit he's good
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 June 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/sinead-oconnor-the-lion-and-the-cobra/
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 20 June 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
Yeah, that was great
― heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:28 (two years ago) link
yeah good piece. that album is fire.
― treeship., Monday, 21 June 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
Beeple and the founder of Pitchfork are launching an NFT site where you can buy moments in time https://t.co/czc6SlLIpH pic.twitter.com/mGLQoaJ4OT— The Verge (@verge) June 24, 2021
― ufo, Friday, 25 June 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L9EMe-7Z4w
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
here, have two
Wes Andersonâs influence looms large here, with wide-angle shots on diorama sets, and vintage luxury suitcases shot with a low-contrast, brown-and-pastel color palette. Itâs hard to separate Andersonâs manicured aesthetic from whiteness, and how Tylerâs proximity to and relationship with whiteness throughout his career has proven to be awkward and, at times, problematic.
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 June 2021 07:38 (two years ago) link
Yeah wth. Is âawkwardâ just his epithet now? The interview from 2011 they link goes to lengths to establish his awkward cred too. It also has some tasty bits regarding a Pitchfork review from the time:Those kids relate to me because Iâm just like them. He doesnât relate to me because heâs not like us. So itâs a whole different mindset. He doesnât have the audacity to call anything stupid because I mean something to someone. Like the kid that got OF tatted on him, from the SF show. Some people might call him stupid as fuck, but to him, that shit actually means something to him. You never know, he might have listened to my music and his fucking mom died and shit, and he got that just to remind him that my music got him fucking through. So it weirds me out when thereâs people like that, who canât relate under any circumstances, writing. But then again, some (writers) just like it, so Iâm kinda 50/50 on shit like that.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Saturday, 26 June 2021 08:03 (two years ago) link
Meanwhile, Doja Catâs various controversies simply demonstrate that she âisnât ensnared by the predictability of pop stardom.â(that reviewâs pretty funny to me⌠it tries so hard to turn every potential weakness into a strength, and isnât afraid to take down her peers in comparison!)
― we don't have to be around all these coffee shops (morrisp), Saturday, 26 June 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link
What âweaknessesâ are you talking about
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
the implication every time is that she works with dr. luke and showed her feet to white supremacists iirc
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
xp Her artistic weaknesses, IMO⌠sheâs âperfunctory and unpretentious,â etc.
― we don't have to be around all these coffee shops (morrisp), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
(not a tryhard like Megan; she just âentertains and enthralls with minimal effortâ!)
― we don't have to be around all these coffee shops (morrisp), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
I love that the Doja review treats doing 4chan racism memes as but one part of a "triple threat"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlYmBkkkkPg
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
Tyler liking the Fantastic Mr. Fox makes him a problematic race traitor
Doja doing the type of /pol/ posting that helped fuel the capitol insurrection makes her a radical defying the male gaze
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link
Mystified by why you guys think that making the difficult appear easy would be some sort of desperate critical maneuver to cover up weakness instead of the literal definition of style & swag
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
I donât get the Tyler wes thing either but donât punish the doja review for not succumbing to the same weird sociopolitical logics
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
Like it's obviously a net good that P4k is attempting to spotlight inequality in all its forms, but ffs get your politics straight
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link
the Doja review is really poorly served by not having been edited at all
― trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Saturday, 26 June 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
i think the subtext of the thing about tyler the creator and whiteness is various instances both in music and in interviews where heâs said or implied that heâs only sexually interested in white men, as far as men go. the pitchfork blog doesnât do a good job of connecting the dots back to tylerâs aesthetic POV but there is some tension there to be teased out & i did understand what the writer was gesturing at, itâs just a bit clumsy also re doja cat and her 4 chan song, the obvious reading of the song is that sheâs flipping the slur back around onto the ppl who use, it really doesnât take a genius to figure that one out. thereâs plenty of criticisms to make of her â tho tbh her politics have always seemed to be in the right place publicly, she just has some edgelord-y tendencies, so i find this hysteria coming from whiney who listens to every cum town episode to be a bit funny â but i donât find that song to be an indictment of her on a political level
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 26 June 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
I just thought it was funny for this to be the one time a Pfork review dutifully runs thru an artistâs controversies, only this time to spin it into a positive (âShe marches to the beat of her own drum!â). And itâs in keeping with the review in general, which indeed could have used some editing.
― we don't have to be around all these coffee shops (morrisp), Saturday, 26 June 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link
In my defense I donât think Iâve ever made it through a full episode of Cum Town
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 June 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link
I agree with Whiney about the Tyler review.
― treeship., Saturday, 26 June 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link
Mise-en-scène is colonialist
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 26 June 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
The Tyler isnât a review itâs a knee jerk release response piece which I think is part of what makes it jarring â it hits this breezy on-first-listen tone but itâs gesturing at unpacking a really complex thing
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 26 June 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link
And itâs in keeping with the review in general, which indeed could have used some editing.
â we don't have to be around all these coffee shops (morrisp), Saturday, June 26, 2021 1:14 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
What do you guys mean by this
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 26 June 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link
I meant I found it difficult to read on a sentence level, e.g.:
Her hyponasal vocal switch-upsâincluding the deployment of a nonspecific African accent (likely inspired by her own heritage) in âWomanâ on Planet Her and âGot to Townâ off of Amala arenât theft, but rather evidence of her chameleonic, limitless flows and intonations.
But Planet Herâs true standouts draw on the same cinematic, life-affirming spirit that propelled Hot Pinkâs âBottom Bitchâ: The harpsichord-assisted digicore of âPayday,â ft. Young Thug; the uniquely Black girl celebration of life contained in âGet Into It (Yuh)â as it encapsulates the two seconds that preempt twerkingâthe pre-leg kickâwhile Doja rattles off the prerequisites to âget into it.â (âAnd if she ainât she got a butt, fuck it, get into it, yuh.â)
Idk, it's not a big deal, I just had to read it twice to feel like I got what was being said and it's not like a super sophisticated analysis
― trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Saturday, 26 June 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
xp -- with the doja cat song I think the criticism is less about the song per se and more about hanging out in a chat with white supremacists
― like, Iâm eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 26 June 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
That review opens by saying it is *good* that she is an âedgelordâ because it overturns stereotypes. (âNot showing penitence for her audience!â) Really has nothing to do with the musicâshe is being evaluated as a performance artist, based on how well she teases out the contradictions in the semiotics of race. This kind of review feels really arbitrary. One personâs progressive gesture is another personâs problematic oneâyou could really spin most things both ways given the lack of agreed upon standards.
― treeship., Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:46 (two years ago) link
Itâs a very strange text. She is being spoken of as a kind of heroic figure due to a series of messy controversies last year. But the claims are always couched in kind of passive language so itâs hard to really nail down why the reviewer seems to feel this way.
Whether itâs using of the f-slur in her apology for using the f-slur or her perceived indifference following a âshowing feet in racial chatroomsâ brouhaha, Doja isnât ensnared by the predictability of pop stardom.
Cool?
― treeship., Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
Some artists release albums that function as grand gestures, but Doja Cat doesnât have to; Planet Her is an enormous shrug, the edgelord hottie pop star telling the world that itâs not her job to care.
― treeship., Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link
If the reviewer flat out said they appreciated doja because she was an anti-pc bomb-thrower, standing up to sanctimony, that would at least be coherent. But the review never quite goes there.
― treeship., Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
I donât think you and I read the same review. (I do agree with Robâs critique though)
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link
That review opens by saying it is *good* that she is an âedgelordâ because it overturns stereotypes.
For example. The review does not actually say this at all
― ILXâs bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:44 (two years ago) link
Ah, yes, the classic âtriple threatâ wherein three things described have competing values
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
âD-40 is a triple threat: Heâs a great ILX poster, a knowledgeable rap snob, and he lacks reading comprehensionâ
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link
Weird that thereâs total confusion and disagreement about what this lede is supposed to sayAnyway, D-40 is right that it doesnât need editing
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 on broadway (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link
On the surface, she resembles an e-girl making fart jokes whoâd peak at 70,000 Twitter followers more than a masterful, total-package artist. Or the intensely hermetic version of that: a popular, anonymous forum shitposter everyone assumes is a man because the assumption is womenâBlack women, especiallyâmobilize against offense instead of causing it.
She communicates like an anonymous 4chan troll, *but* she is a Black woman, which violates our expectations.
It seems like she is being commended for bucking stereotypes, even in this kind of uninspiring way of emulating internet trolls. But youâre right deej, the review doesnât explicitly say this is praiseworthy. I think that is because it would be hard to directly make the case that her antics are good, or serve her work in any meaningful way. Easier to just create a vague impression of rebelliousness, bucking expectations.
― treeship., Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
I just think it reads like a college reviewer, who thinks their favorite artist can do no wrong, resorting to hyperbole and âthis-is-good-actually.âWhat editor doesnât read âlimitless flows and intonationsâ; circle âlimitlessâ in red pen; and write a question mark next to it.
― we don't have to be around all these coffee shops (morrisp), Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link
I think the reviewer likes doja catâs flirtations with nihilism and internet shock aesthetics but doesnât want to articulate why they like these things.
― treeship., Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:43 (two years ago) link