Israel to World: "Suck It."

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What Palestinians need right now is, obviously, incendiary balloons.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link

What they don't need, is for their children to be killed

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

Hey I'm incendiary too, man

symsymsym, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link

I know you’re all busy talking about Matt Hancock, but 1,500 Palestinians in the al Bustan neighbourhood of Silwan are being forced to demolish their own homes, & if they don’t, their homes will be demolished in *less than 48 hours*.

Raise your voices to #SaveSilwan 🇵🇸

— Aleesha Khaliq #FreeMotasem 🇵🇸 (@a_leesha1) June 25, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 26 June 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link

Israeli forces have raided the Silwan neighborhood in occupied East Jerusalem. They turned the El Khalili Butcher shop into rubble and they plan to demolish around 100 homes in the area. They also fired teargas and rubber-coated bullets at Palestinian residents.#SaveSilwan pic.twitter.com/Hk5gtaBa7m

— Taj (@Taj_Ali1) June 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

what is going on in east jerusalem now is insane, and the minimal coverage in the press is enough to make you feel totally hopeless.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link

Yup, it's amazing really.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

it seems almost impossible to discuss this with anyone who doesn't already follow it. and if you do it in any kind of institutional context you'll be sacked or reprimanded for characterising it at all accurately

Left, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

The images of people having to tear their own houses down are so harrowing

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

Just so obscenely vindictive

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

what sources do you all use to follow this stuff?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

I don't know anywhere better than twitter unfortunately

Left, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

I was able to find some good articles about Silwan on Al Jazeera, but only by googling, not navigating from their homepage

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

there is coverage, but it can be easy to miss it as at the moment its not considered worthy of any big headlines in most media sources despite what's going on. This seems to me an appalling omission in and of itself but also because of the importance of these stories in illuminating the continuity of violence and repression that persists beyond the netanyahu era.

i think middleeasteye and al jazeera have probably done the most consistent reporting of any mainstream english language news source that I know but given the importance of citizen journalism in palestinian resistance/activism twitter does seem a particularly useful source of first-hand witnessing that you probably won't get anywhere else. Obviously it comes with the caveat that you have to be particularly careful about disinformation but given how much egregious misreporting has appeared in mainstream media I think that a suspension of credulity is always advisable!

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

xp that's weird, because for me they have 'Israel-Palestine conflict' permanently on their banner at the moment and that is linking to their main reporting on this

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

it might have something to do with your location?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

no, i just didn't look at the top banner. was just scanning headlines. thanks for pointing me to it.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Israel just destroyed the oldest known Canaanite cemetery in Palestine, a 4,200-year old site, to build an Israeli-settlers-only road.

This is a war crime.

The occupation regime is literally erasing Palestine’s history as the world looks on in silence. pic.twitter.com/kW17EqYVx4

— Sarah Abdallah (@sahouraxo) July 18, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 July 2021 09:07 (two years ago) link

That appears to be a photo of Khalet al-Jam'a: https://www.timesofisrael.com/huge-canaanite-burial-ground-found-near-bethlehem/

I can find no credible sources saying it's been destroyed/bulldozed.

eisimpleir (crüt), Monday, 19 July 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link

unrelated but I thought this article was very good:

https://jewishcurrents.org/its-time-to-name-anti-palestinian-bigotry/

symsymsym, Monday, 19 July 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

That appears to be a photo of Khalet al-Jam'a: https://www.timesofisrael.com/huge-canaanite-burial-ground-found-near-bethlehem/

I can find no credible sources saying it's been destroyed/bulldozed.

― eisimpleir (crüt), Monday, July 19, 2021 12:54 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Same. The assertion that the Israeli would bulldoze Canaanite archeological artefacts instead of using them as propaganda and justification for present Jewish presence in the land can only be made by people who have no idea about the conflict.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 19 July 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

no idea if this is a credible source but this is a recent link? https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210716-israel-razes-largest-canaanite-cemetery-in-west-bank/

StanM, Monday, 19 July 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

I would not trust the Palestinian Information Centre.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 19 July 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

Israel is currently occupied with much more consequential matters

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, in response to the decision by Ben & Jerry's:
"There are many ice cream brands, but only one Jewish state.

Ben & Jerry's has decided to brand itself as the anti-Israel ice cream.

— PM of Israel (@IsraeliPM) July 19, 2021

symsymsym, Monday, 19 July 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link

What did they do? Are they going to sell icecream with the skin still on it?

StanM, Monday, 19 July 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

lol oh no

symsymsym, Monday, 19 July 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

oh! thanks!

StanM, Monday, 19 July 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link

Still available in Tel Aviv.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 19 July 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

phew!

symsymsym, Monday, 19 July 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

ben and jerry's no longer listed as a kosher product (in Australia)

https://www.timesofisrael.com/australian-kosher-authority-delists-ben-jerrys-ice-cream-over-west-bank-ban/

normal country!

symsymsym, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

Honestly, power to Ben and Jerry's for not selling products in the Occupied Territories but as a Canadian I feel like there's also a powerful stance to take here too, but they won't, because the bottom line etc. What's the market share of the Occupied Territories? It's really just marketing of course.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

i think cancellation by world zionism will be worse for ben and jerry's bottom line than doing nothing would have been.

but as a Canadian I feel like there's also a powerful stance to take here too, but they won't,

what do you mean? ben and jerry's should stop selling in Canada?

symsymsym, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link

Israel's president: Ben & Jerry's boycott is part of 'a new form of terrorism' https://t.co/2y1H2WM8pL

— Haaretz.com (@haaretzcom) July 21, 2021

hope nobody is standing with the new terrorists

symsymsym, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

Lol

plax (ico), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link

Kindof showing yr ass here Israel

plax (ico), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

The land of milk & honey but no Cherry Garcia

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link

I guess when your most ludicrous lines get taken seriously in perpetuity you ultimately end up claiming that refusing to sell an ice cream brand in internationally recognised stolen land is terrorism but that bombing schools is fine

plax (ico), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

Mayor de Blasio says he'll boycott Ben & Jerry's over Israel stance https://t.co/aS06Z0RBm1 pic.twitter.com/Ez9TULIU5y

— Eyewitness News (@ABC7NY) July 21, 2021

criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

i thought it was bad to boycott companies over their israel stance

criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

de blasio will personally have to pry a carton of phish food from my cold dead hands fyi

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

lol harbl yyyyep

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link

Isn't this the dumbest possible move from B&J? All the negatives of BDS but also none of whatever positive support would come with it.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link

what do you mean? ben and jerry's should stop selling in Canada?

― symsymsym, Wednesday, July 21, 2021 1:50 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

If the occupation of territories and mistreatment of people living prior to the state is the standard, then yeah, Canada would have to be boycotted too. Heck, it's even worse since white Canadians have zero historical connection to the land.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

Anyway, I'd take any form of activism by a company owned by Unilever with a large grain salt. Especially when same company seems to have no problem with selling products to Saudi Arabia.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

yes well done

plax (ico), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

If the occupation of territories and mistreatment of people living prior to the state is the standard, then yeah, Canada would have to be boycotted too. Heck, it's even worse since white Canadians have zero historical connection to the land.

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Lol.

Ben & Jerry's are now the best ice cream (and I like all ice cream)

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link

b&j’s brand is nice capitalism not revolution, idk whether this will help or hurt that reputation but the fact that this is a thing at all is indicative of a deeper shift that I want to know more about. fuck praising a unilever subsidiary for doing way less than the bare minimum but the boiled piss is still amusing so far

it does bother me a lot that way too many israel critics seem to have little to no problem with other settler colonies except to the extent that they support israel (and even then they don’t make the obvious connection). I know this is often brought up in bad faith so people switch off but when these critics are either based in these colonies or in coloniser countries it feels like a total abdication of responsibility. I keep coming back to some poll that showed UK leftists generally disapproving of israel while generally approving of britain and - why? the (justified) passion on this subject & borderline (at best) wilful ignorance about its foundation are an odd fit but I see it all the time. absolutely boycott in fact abolish canada, USA, australia etc & all the metropoles but that’s not a stance that would sell much ice cream, not yet at least

Left, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link

the subject being “the israeli-palestinian conflict” and the foundation being that of the contemporary state of israel as well as those of its models

Left, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

I'm boycotting my local ice cream van, hopefully that will go some way towards abolishing Britain.

Soundtracked by an eco jazz mixtape. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link


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