This new one is great. Glad someone championed these guys on ilm so many years ago.
― treeship., Monday, 14 June 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link
they've ditched the pompous drums!
the drums were literally the best part about this band, by a country mile!
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 14 June 2021 01:38 (two years ago) link
that said, this is a good tune. stoked for people to write "metal is growing, and growth sometimes means not playing metal any more, but it's gatekeeping if they don't headline Roadburn"
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 14 June 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link
Great song. It feels very carefully pieced together.
― jmm, Monday, 14 June 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
Idk if changing the framework from metal to shoegaze is growth? What is the end point here? Elevator music?
It's different and there's nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't call it growth when they're shedding some of the qualities that made them distinct in the first place, like the pompous drums.
― braised cod, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
also it implies metal is juvenile, something you grow out of
― braised cod, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
Has anyone actually described this in terms of growth or are we still getting mad at an imagined future review?
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
Not to my knowledge. Sorry. I didn't intend to preach to the choir, but it seems exactly what I did.
― braised cod, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
the less it sounds like deafheaven the more growth there's been imo
― imago, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/track/77CbWXOoPNmMkr2UfLzVss?si=C7nrnXFOQwCfEvD6ZkY0UA&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1
New single, "The Gnashing."
I'm in love with the new direction they're going in.
― yeah but how, Thursday, 8 July 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
new single is good, i like the drumming
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/how-deafheaven-made-their-least-metal-album-yet/
in this interview they say it's not a metal album at all, so these tracks aren't outliers or anything, the whole album's going to be straight up shoegaze it seems
What is the end point here? Elevator music?
they do say they think they could make an ambient album someday lol
― ufo, Friday, 9 July 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link
every black metal band eventually turns to ambient
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 9 July 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link
Silence is the darkest sound.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 9 July 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link
It's kind of funny when they bring up Kid A in that interview, since Radiohead tried to use those influences to make something different from everyone else, while these guys are trying to erase their own sound to sound like every shoegazing band that ever existed.
― braised cod, Friday, 9 July 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link
not sure i hear that happening
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 9 July 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
Yeah, another good song.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 10 July 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link
The start of the first single sounds like it could be on Everything Must Go.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 10 July 2021 08:20 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXcxYC4Q644
another good one
― ufo, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link
album rules. rules rules rules rules rules
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
occupies the sliver between rock and shoegaze like catherine wheel, hum, parts of siamese dream, without sounding exactly like any of them. almost like a harder version of the slowdive s/t. last two tracks are very powerful
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
meant to mention failure, "the gnashing" is pretty failure
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link
ha, beat me by an hour. came here to post this.
very, very, very good. one of our best bands.
― alpine static, Thursday, 19 August 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link
their drummer is like jimmy chamberlain-level good on this album
― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link
they really nailed what they were going for here, it totally delivers
― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link
there is no bottom to this record, i just keep swimming and there's no end
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 20 August 2021 05:11 (two years ago) link
for all the talk about if they're losing what made them distinct, they definitely aren't here. it's not like they're just regurgitating shoegaze tropes and have totally lost their identity or anything, it's very distinctively them still, just a different take on their sound. i get why that would be disappointing to some who really loved what they were doing before though
― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 05:42 (two years ago) link
also hearing '90s church albums in this
just pretty much everything i want a rock record to do
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 20 August 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
This is very good, yes. Love the drumming. I've never been a huge fan but I feel this is very much playing to strengths.
― jmm, Friday, 20 August 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
Unsurprisingly I love this, very much getting "the American Alcest" vibes
― a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Friday, 20 August 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link
Went for a long walk today and listened to this. I loved Roads to Judah and Sunbather but sort of fell away from there but gave this a go and yeah, really good. I got a bit of Red House Painters in places, Lullaby for the Working Class and as Brad said, lots of Slowdive. Standouts: Neptune Raining Diamonds into Lament for Wasps and Mombasa, which is colossal.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
One thing's for sure - the people who complained "they're not black metal" will feel vindicated.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 20 August 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
I love this so much. A fitting new direction after 10 years.
― gman59, Friday, 20 August 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link
This is pretty easily my favorite Deafheaven album that I've heard.
― o. nate, Friday, 20 August 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
Yeah, mine too.
Sargent House is having quite a good month.
― jmm, Friday, 20 August 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link
This sounds like Alcest, but not as good. Still like it though
― Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Friday, 20 August 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
it's pretty easily my favourite but that's because they've double down on the parts of their sound that i liked & moved away from the parts that were less my thing (the screaming, mostly)
― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link
this is so much better than their false black metal ... everybody OTM, excellent album
― Brad C., Friday, 20 August 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
dig the album but i love when they go black metal. thankfully the new WITTR album was also released today so i get my fill
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Saturday, 21 August 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link
― a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Friday, August 20, 2021 3:09 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
my take was going to be 'the new lantlos is better' but hm maybe ... it isn't
― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 21 August 2021 12:38 (two years ago) link
I loooove "Lament for Wasps". The layering in the second half, so good.
― jmm, Saturday, 21 August 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link
looking around online this album seems to have really alienated a lot of previous fans. shame, they're missing out
― ufo, Monday, 23 August 2021 04:32 (two years ago) link
p4k has turned on them just as they've become even more p4k-like.
― pomenitul, Monday, 23 August 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link
???? this is one of the best rock albums i’ve ever heard jfc
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
i can understand fans being disappointed it's a change in sound from the previous distinctive thing they were doing but i feel like if you were super into that sound you should likely also be super into this heavier-end-of-shoegaze sound anyway so it just seems like they're not really engaging with it on its terms and are just frustrated it's different idk
album keeps reminding me of the end of paramore's "future", guess that's jmj's touch
― ufo, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
this is pretty boring to my ears. bog standard shoe gaze which at this point, please, do something interesting.
― akm, Monday, 23 August 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
not much shoegaze has drums this great. it's not the most original thing in the world, sure, but they've carved out a very enjoyable little niche here as brad described earlier & the production is immaculate. if this was some new band i'd be shocked that a new shoegaze band could make something this good.
― ufo, Monday, 23 August 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link
yeah the drums and songcraft make this stand out so much to me. i’ve heard bog standard shoegaze, cf. pity sex, this is a billion times more realized
and the p r o d u c t i o n
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
given that "why would music need to be heavier than 'Black Metallic'?" was the question that kept me away from metal for far too long, feels like I should hear this
― the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
the p4k review is disappointing... I don't understand how these guys got to be a black metal touchstone in the first place, but it's sad to downgrade their best-sounding album because they've outgrown some unconvincing gestures ... especially sad because the last track, "Mombasa," uses their black metal mode very well
― Brad C., Monday, 23 August 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link
Angry Metal Guy #314208 got into metal via Deafheaven, is now angry they've changed:
https://www.angrymetalguy.com/deafheaven-infinite-granite-review/
― pomenitul, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link