"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Yes, the UK is a union of four countries under one state, I believe.

So Macron's response is of course correct.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

It's really the union of England and Scotland, if you get right down to it. Wales is an add-on that came with England and NI was an invention to keep NI proddies from kicking off.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

Johnson implying that France can, get this, make their own laws.

nashwan, Sunday, 13 June 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

I believe that Wales is a country.

I also learn here that calling it a 'Principality' is perhaps not very correct:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/wales/entries/1fa3ef03-d94a-3a3c-a22f-093c74467401

I think that NI is also a country, though nationalists used to like to call it a 'statelet'. Also possibly a province but I think that implies 'province of Ulster' which is not really relevant to NI's legal status in the UK.

It's certainly an 'invention' but then isn't it fairly standard to say that all countries are?

You probably have to say that the Republic of Ireland, est.1949 or so, is just as much an invention.

I was thinking earlier, not for the first time, that if NI becomes part of the ROI then it will be quite destabilising - Belfast a major new centre of power to rival Dublin, a bit like Frankfurt, Milan or Barcelona - or even Glasgow - in their own countries, though parallels are always inexact. I wondered also what the analysis is of whether the ROI would have a net economic benefit or loss from incorporating NI. We hear a lot about that stuff with Scotland, but in England I have never heard an analysis of it for Ireland.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 June 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

'It's great to get that opening win in the Euros. The lads formed a Marxist reading group in the training camp and I think it's really benefited us today.' pic.twitter.com/Z8ZR0yNz4M

— black lives matter (@jrc1921) June 13, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 June 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

Labour sources say their last week on the doorstep has been "dreadful".

"The issue is almost exclusively Palestine.. On Friday evening, Galloway had been around 45 minutes before us in one of our stomping grounds. Nobody wanted to speak to us."

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) June 14, 2021

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 08:19 (two years ago) link

"grifter" seems quite overused these days or maybe it's an era of rising grift, but Galloway is hands down the top grifter in town right now! I still think Labour would comfortably lose without him running, so like some have commented this is just Kieth getting his excuses in early. Today he's forensically declared Labour are polling badly cos the Tories are very competent ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿(◡︵◡)

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 09:09 (two years ago) link

Yeah, you don’t leak this stuff without a motive and I suspect it’s ‘we could have won if it wasn’t for those darn Muslims’ but idk.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 14 June 2021 09:16 (two years ago) link

Halloran of the Heavy Woollen Independents not running + his voters transferring to the Tories is the main reason they'll lose imo, although Kieth alienating the Muslim community is another factor it certainly isn't the main one. Brabin would have likely lost this seat in '19 if he hadn't ran then.

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 09:25 (two years ago) link

It's worse than just 'Muslims' it's 'these thick Muslims cannot see through Galloway's schtick' and the way that quote comes across as also praising Galloway's ground game which is hilarious.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 June 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link

I'll be interested to see if Galloway can get more votes than NIP did in Hartlepool. Because I think there will be much more abstention than ppl voting for this clown.

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 09:31 (two years ago) link

"grifter" seems quite overused these days or maybe it's an era of rising grift, but Galloway is hands down the top grifter in town right now! I

I can think of few words to describe the cunt. That's one of them.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2021 10:04 (two years ago) link

did starmer ever say which he preferred out of oasis or stone roses??

dogs, Monday, 14 June 2021 10:13 (two years ago) link

never fear i'm sure another john lewis photo op or two will really own the tories

Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 June 2021 10:14 (two years ago) link

Corbyn era labour did have some bad fellow travellers but they were pretty great at keeping actual anti-semitic conspiracy theorists like Galloway away from the limelight, don't think I've heard that mentioned.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 June 2021 10:44 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E31ff_wX0AYPzBP?format=jpg&name=900x900

I'd be so embarrassed to post these campaign leaflets, even disengaged people know Labour can do fuck all of these out of power. But also it's worded like a school election project by a 12 year old.

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

Pigs and Potholes and Pickin' Litter

Full Kit Starmer (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 June 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

it's so shit local councillors it's untrue, but from someone who is trying pass themselves off as a political ingenue who is offering something different from the "westminster bubble" - just fucking diabolical.

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link

I knew it would be something like this from her previous appearances on regional news, but somehow it's even worse than I expected.

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

Kim's plan to put the dogwhistle item first more like

speaking the language of goals, going forward (Matt #2), Monday, 14 June 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

if you've got a spare grand put it on the tory candidate winning, look at it like betting on Hamilton for a F1 podium finish - but only this is about 99% more of a certainty.

calzino, Monday, 14 June 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link

Asda Smartprice Eddstone

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link

there is only one thing she seems interested in and that is covering up for bent murdering coppers

calzino, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 12:28 (two years ago) link

Just going to put this here, no further explanation to be given at this time

https://t.co/leOe5xxyKk pic.twitter.com/fQkfWtPsCa

— Luke (@LukasMukasPukas) June 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

Understand that Unite talks aiming to establish a single left candidate in the general secretary election have broken down, and all three will be running against Gerard Coyne.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) June 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

Ah here

plax (ico), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

Cunts get what they deserve

Full Kit Starmer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

GB News just read out a comment from Mike Hunt. Amazing.

— Mark Grimshaw (@markgrimshaw16) June 15, 2021

calzino, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

xp

giving a certain win for a Labour Right puppet sounds like a great strategy.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

The wonky situationist in me will always feel iffy about Big Union no matter how historically important they are

Full Kit Starmer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

I've never been a member of one and a work colleague who joined Unite got fuck all useful help from them when the company was trying to lay him off without paying him his statuary dues etc.. They are historically important but from a personal viewpoint they mean fuck all to me, and I've never liked big Len and that Beckett seems like a total dick.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

I love some Jimmy Hoffa fan-fic though, especially the James Ellroy version of him!

calzino, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

without knowing anything about Steve Turner it seems he has a Paul Mason endorsement and Akehurst has posted he's a better option than Beckett, so therefore he must be bad.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 07:31 (two years ago) link

The Unite candidates getting back in the room to hash things out and somehow managing to add a fourth left-wing candidate to the ballot.

— Tom Whyman (@HealthUntoDeath) June 16, 2021

calzino, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link

New Cummings Substack post has just dropped. pic.twitter.com/WPXA5uDML7

— Mic Wright (@brokenbottleboy) June 16, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link

GBNews quickly becoming the new Moe's Bar

They got done by a Mike Oxlong. Incredible pic.twitter.com/oLXD15cFQa

— Alan White (@aljwhite) June 15, 2021

koogs, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 10:59 (two years ago) link

Incredibly, Keir Starmer absents the field and allows SNP Ian Blackford to ask about the Cummings messages. The PM does not respond

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) June 16, 2021

Kieth is quite above embarrassing the Tory govt at PMQs with the juiciest bits of Dom's blog because that isn't very dignified behaviour - pure class m8 👏👏👏

calzino, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link

Disappointed he hasn't posted a full kit pose yet, I assume he's waiting until Scotland are out

Full Kit Starmer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 11:48 (two years ago) link

he's half n' half kit wanker to the core and should stop pretending otherwise.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link

So is bringing up DCum's newsletter accusations good or bad praxis? Seem to remember last time around everyone saying it's palacial intrigue that shouldn't interest us.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link

I don't really care that much tbh, just any excuse to dunk on what a timorous soft shite Kieth is when opportunities to embarrass the govt are gift-wrapped for him by Dom.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

All of labour (including the good ones, Abbott, Corbyn, Sultana, etc.) voting for "covid secure borders" bill that puts all amber countries on the red list and vaccine passports? Irrelevant as the tories voted it down anyway, but curious if someone can explain the reasoning here:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2021-06-15a.187.0#g231.0

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

Keir Starmer picks ‘Stonger Together’ slogan used by Hillary Clinton to rebrand

maybe Abbott, Corbyn, Sultana, etc were persuaded not to upset the applecart, because Kieth's 9th fucking rebrand was on the way!

calzino, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link

nobody actually noticed his last 3 rebrands so to show he means business this time he's borrowing a vacuous slogan from that oh so successful HRC campaign

calzino, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link

Stonger

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

Left twitter ruthless tonight

Keir Starmer picks ‘Stonger Together’ slogan used by Hillary Clinton to rebrand https://t.co/LjcE4GSvMU

— The Guardian (@guardian) June 16, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/NlpQVNw8Tv

— Tom Halligan (@HalliHax) June 16, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

This is Ed stone levels https://t.co/eHoT9Ganyi

— Simon Vessey (@Simon_Vessey) June 17, 2021

"Britain in the world" !!!

calzino, Thursday, 17 June 2021 07:26 (two years ago) link

Stamer Togamer

Full Kit Starmer (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 June 2021 07:31 (two years ago) link


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