Wong Kar Wai - Feature Films, 1988-2007

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this is an incredibly controversial piping-hot take but the order in which you listed them is actually my ranking of them all, FALLEN ANGELS is incredibly underrated and cool and excellent, ITMFL is probably the "best" in terms of like the most impactful and stuff, idk, I just didn't click with it super hard when I watched it (though I need a rewatch), HAPPY TOGETHER is honestly one of the best and most groundbreaking works of queer cinema imo, I would say all of those are like 10/10 essential except 2046 which you could skip if you really wanted to.

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 11 June 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link

all the leaves are Brown

calstars, Saturday, 12 June 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Daaaamn

calstars, Thursday, 8 July 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

box set is 50% off at barnes and noble rn if 6th ave is too far a trek

adam, Thursday, 8 July 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

A very nice piece on the stars of WKW films: https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/7448-the-stars-in-wong-kar-wai-s-universe

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Thursday, 8 July 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

I noticed Ashes of Time Redux is on Mubi so I rewatched it. I saw it when the Redux edit was released in 2008 (on a big screen, thankfully) and I remembered it as gorgeous and nearly incomprehensible. Rewatch confirmed both, tho the plot strands do more or less all connect. It just gets hard in the middle to keep track of who’s in love with/wants to kill whom. But just one ravishing image after another, and the very ‘90s high contrast saturated look feels dated now in a good way — it makes it aesthetically singular. Never seen fight scenes like the ones in this movie, the slow-motion blues are really effective and evocative. Not Wong’s best, but in my second tier of faves by him.

Slow-motion blurs that should say.

The original 1994 release of Ashes of Time is sublime

beamish13, Saturday, 29 July 2023 17:05 (eight months ago) link

Is that available anywhere? Seems like Redux is the only print in circulation.

It’s on backchannels. There is no HD version of it available, so it’s basically VCD quality. I just hate his revisionist bullshit, as the film was perfect as is

beamish13, Saturday, 29 July 2023 17:56 (eight months ago) link

I thought the revisions were partly because he didn’t have the original master to work from anymore. But not having seen the original I don’t know what changed.

I’ve seen both (might even have the VHS copy I picked up in Montreal Chinatown around) but don’t remember any significant differences, except that the blood spatters in Redux seemed faker (CGI?).

I’ve always been a little disappointed by it in either version, likely because I was expecting something far more experimental, non-narrative, and “difficult”, based on all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by Western HK movie fanboys at the time (check out vintage HKMDB reviews for some classic “you got arthouse in my grindhouse!” sentiments), or J. Hoberman’s memorable description of it as “The Seven Samurai at Marienbad”. But aside from the Brigitte Lin sequence (my favorite section) it seemed relatively straightforward.

In the long run I prefer Tsui Hark’s The Blade, which has sometimes been viewed as an “answer” to Wong. Certainly the character of the dreamy, romantically longing heroine who narrates the film feels like a pointed parody, especially since there’s otherwise zero romanticism in the Tsui, just sweaty, half-naked, seemingly deranged men beating and flogging and chopping the hell out of each other.

gjoon1, Sunday, 30 July 2023 12:58 (eight months ago) link

There are a hell of a lot more differences between the two versions than blood spatters. For god’s sake, the entire colour palette was altered. The blue skies in the original look like teal vomit in the Redux. It’s shorter. The score was redone. Even the credits are completely different.

Tsui Hark’s The Blade is magnificent. Very fortunate to have seen it in 35mm some years back. Maybe the single best wuxia film of the last 40 years

beamish13, Sunday, 30 July 2023 15:59 (eight months ago) link

Ah see I like the weird palette of Redux. But would be interested to see the original too.

I remember seeing the original and thinking that it couldn't have seemed more incoherent if all the shots had been edited together in random order.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 31 July 2023 04:08 (eight months ago) link


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