Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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people should stop using words

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

and start making sense

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

"OMG that's so random!"

But they don't mean 'random' at all, they mean lame or bogus.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

Do they? I think it’s usually more like “weird”.

Alba, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

People use the words "random" and "surreal" in ways that make me want to punch them in the throat.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

I guess it can be interpreted as weird or odd as well, but never in a good way...

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link

People use the words "random" and "surreal" in ways that make me want to punch them in the throat.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, June 10, 2021 2:15 PM (sixteen minutes ago)

do you have a normal reaction to anything

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link

random originally meant fast

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 11 June 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link

your mom was so random last night

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 June 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link

they don't mean 'random' at all, they mean lame or bogus

yeah, and what about when people say 'bad' but they really mean 'good'? or when they write 'phat' instead of using a word that really exists? it's kee-ray-zee!

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 11 June 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

> the terms "Brother-in-law" and "Sister-in-Law" have always annoyed me because they are used both to mean your spouse's sibling and your sibling's spouse.

the rules for second cousin once removed etc are similarly confusing but because they are, if I'm reading them correctly, asymetric.

koogs, Friday, 11 June 2021 05:41 (two years ago) link

The thing I get with highly imprecise or hyperbolic use of words is that while I'm perfectly aware of what's likely to have been meant, my brain will also provide a literal reading.

It can be both annoying and amusing. Amusing is better obviously but then I have to hold back from sharing too many bad jokes as it often isn't appreciated ;-(

Noel Emits, Friday, 11 June 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link

I just introduce my family as "friends, friends of friends, and some of my gift service clients"

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 11 June 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link

I’ve referred to my wife’s sibling as my brother-in-law and to his spouse as my sister-in-law but never really considered the implied incestuousness until now

joygoat, Friday, 11 June 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link

I’ve never been able to keep track of the conversation when ppl constantly refer to their relatives by their relation. Siblings I get but “my sister in law’s husband” is so much more confusing than “Jeff, my sister in law’s husband” who is then Jeff going forward. How important could it possibly be for conversation participants to know the full relation??

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 11 June 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

They should all just be referred to as “my relative” be they wife, son or second cousin once removed.

Alba, Friday, 11 June 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link

just call them all "er indoors"

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 11 June 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

or "Cathy's Joe"

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 11 June 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

better than "Cathy's Clown"

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 12 June 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

"Insta" is bad enough but I'm getting increasing numbers of promo emails calling their wares "insta-worthy"
I can't stand it

kinder, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

I prefer “pizza-worthy”

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link

I suspect languages other than English have more precise terms for family/relations.

mahb, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 08:40 (two years ago) link

"OMG that's so random!"

But they don't mean 'random' at all, they mean lame or bogus.

― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:01 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I specifically remember the first time I heard other kids my age saying "random." It was 1991 and I was randomly (!!) paired up at a youth conference with a roommate who used it in every sentence. I switched roommates.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 12:19 (two years ago) link

these are my kin

over there? my otherkin!

mark s, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link

stadia

Sam Weller, Thursday, 17 June 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

“I’m not saying ____ but I’m not not saying it either.”

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

any variant of the "fixer-upper" sort of insufferable suffixes. particularly when it's something like "i'm the best cleaner-upper i know!" or some shit like that. aaaaaaaaa

maelin, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

I had a huge argument in my college syntax and semantics class with the professor because she insisted "fixer-upper" could only refer to the person fixing up the house, not the house itself. Whereas I had only ever used it referring to the house being fixed up.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

You're right that that's how it's used, but it's always seemed syntactically odd to me. 'Fix-upper' would maybe make more sense; something to be fixed up, not something to be fixered up.

Alba, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

It is odd and linguists like to talk about it! Generally in English the -er suffix applied to a verb indicates an agent... a fixer is someone who fixes things. But some English -er words the suffix indicates a patient, an thing being acted on, such as the chickens you can buy called broilers or fryers, or a house that's a fixer-upper.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

(that extra -er in fixer-upper I can't explain)

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

i always use it to refer to a house, as well, but i just thought saying "fixer-upper" was short for "fixer-upper house"

Punster McPunisher, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link

I wonder if the "er" in some speakers' minds is an echo of 'er as in "her"

Fix 'er up.

Git'r'done.

Ludacristine McVie (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

(that extra -er in fixer-upper I can't explain)

my theory is that this and similar doubled-'er' locutions are poetic additions to terms that sound too awkward with just a single -er. The resolution, by doubling the -er, is a bit twee, but twee seems more acceptable than clunky.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

What's the 'up' even doing in the phrase 'fix up' anyway? US English especially is full of these added(-on!) prepositions that seem mainly there for poetic cadence. There's also:

Head up, close out, change up (I know this meanS something specific in baseball), beat out, swap out, build out

Alba, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

“I’m not saying ____ but I’m not not saying it either.”

cf. HAAAAAATE "sorry not sorry"

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link

I'm not too keen on 'in spite of, or perhaps because of'

Alba, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

I often wonder why in British/Australian usage, “washing” as a noun means laundry but “washing up” means kitchen dishes.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

That's funny. In American usage, "washing" as a noun is uncommon, and "washing up" means cleaning your face/hands, e.g. from being outside before a meal

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

My parents sometimes call the dishwasher the washing-up machine.

On the subject of laundry, I often find myself lost for words when I'm trying to describe liquid laundry detergent. I mean, I should just call it that, I guess, but it seems kind of unwieldy. I think in the UK I might have called it washing liquid, but that seems not specific enough even there.

Alba, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link

don't forget "warshing"

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link

What's the 'up' even doing in the phrase 'fix up' anyway?

They're call phrasal verbs and English has thousands upon thousands of them... very tricky for non-native speakers since the prepositions and particles tacked on are for the most part semantically empty.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

US English especially is full of these added(-on!) prepositions that seem mainly there for poetic cadence.

verb + preposition is just a phrasal verb -- they are rampant in english and brutal for learners
there's usually a one-word alternative and bonus for comprehension you have to be able to parse both as well as tell the difference between a phrasal verb and a prepositional phrase. poetry or rhythmic flow doesn't have much to do with it afaik

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

lol xp!!! <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

one of my favorite markers of Southern American English is that we don't put things away, we put them up.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

xpost great minds <3

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

In the UK, does one brush their teeth, or clean their teeth? I feel like I've seen both

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

Both.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

exception -- most of my generation 1.5 students used the term "search up" for "perform an internet search" ("i searched up the instructions") which i took as an interesting turn in the life of phrasal verbs

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link


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