Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

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One reason why "Bad Medicine" seems worse than the Slippery When Wet singles is that those songs could plausibly be seen as having actual subjects, storylines and characters that we could putatively care about, whereas this song is just a contentless celebration of their Bon Joviness (particularly if you're familiar with the video).

I'm surprised this song hasn't been hijacked by the anti-vaxxers yet.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

don't give them the idea, 45% of ILX is anti-vax lurkers

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

The problem is, Bon Jovi WANT their bad medicine.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

If “hate myself” had been sung by Bon Jovi you guys would hate on it and point to jett’s “medicine” as the superior tune

calstars, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link

counterpoint: nope

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link

I hate the Jovi but can at least point to hooks in his older material. the chorus to Bad Medicine is fuckin' dire, as is the verse, and it sounds like it was written in ten minutes over screwdrivers

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

It doesn't seem that different from "You Give Love a Bad Name" in terms of content? It's just a less negative take on seduction and obsession but it could even be a prequel.xps

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

tbh I'm not a huge fan of "I Hate Myself for Loving You" either but i'd take it over Butt Medicine

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

Or "I Hate Myself..." for that matter
Xp

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

woulda preferred if Kinison had sang Bad Medicine

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKboMhtEKoM

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

"Your love is like Sam Kin-i-son"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

It's like the pu-pu platter of hard rock cameos: Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith, Ratt, Slash and Steven Adler of Guns N' Roses, Billy Idol, Steve Vai, Dweezil Zappa, Richie Sambora, Jon Bon Jovi and Tommy Lee.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

Actually, there are even more hair dorks in that Kinison video. CC from Poison, Sebastian Bach, Rudy Sarzo, supposedly Jonathan Cain from Journey?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

and also that Desmond Child is gay, which I also didn't know

it's not like this song doesn't exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ihtX86JzmA

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

"She Bangs" is worse than "Bad Medicine."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

"She Bangs" is worse than most songs.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

and significantly gayer

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

"you give love a bad name" is a way better conceit/premise than "your love is like bad medicine." i feel like someone started with "love is like oxygen" and started swapping in other words as an exercise in beating writer's block, and the end result is just a bag of cliches. the lyric could maybe sustain an under-three-minutes 50s rock/r&b number but not this kind of arena-scaled hard rock, imo.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link

What is bad medicine?

Expired?
Not FDA-approved?
Hard drugs?

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

i think it's like, the generic/competitor's product in commercials for Extra-Strength Tylenol.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

it’s when the other person is just like a pill, ‘stead of makin' you better they keep makin' you ill

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I thought it was a barely-coded reference to pill addiction.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

Looks like we need a Desmond Child poll. And "I Hate Myself for Loving You" would top my list.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

"Shocker" by Dudes of Wrath would top mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dgbcPl6TxI

peace, man, Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

Catchy garbage

calstars, Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

Looks like he wrote Alice Cooper "Poison" which is the same metaphor as "Bad Medicine" and it's a much better song.

billstevejim, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link

and better than BBD's "Poison."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link

one of the few times I'll claim this about a rock song vs R&B

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link

Poison by Coop is a nice single

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link

okay wtf is happening here

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

xp They both kick ass but the BBD "Poison" is perfect.

billstevejim, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link

yeah both Poisons are great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

The sentiments on both are revolting, let's be clear.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

okay wtf is happening here

Find a Desmond Child song written for a Disney Channel-bred pop star and ILM will be sucked into a bottomless vortex of popist ecstasy.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

that's an inaccurate description of Alice Cooper

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

That same clip I posted bounces to another clip where he talks about working with Hansen. He gave Diane Warren a call for advice and she made fun of him for working with a bunch of nine-year-olds. Then after that album got huge she apparently called him back and asked for their number.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

Bell Biv Devoe "Poison" >>> Alice Cooper "Poison"

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

poison house mix

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

Alice Cooper "Poison" rules.

Poison the band is doodoo.

I drank poison earlier.

I-

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

Alice Cooper "Poison" which is the same metaphor as "Bad Medicine" and it's a much better song.

Is the poison also the chains that he doesn't want to break or...? Does he want to hurt the venomous poison just to hear it calling his name...?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

Miami's Poison Clan and Uncle Luke with one of the lesser known Dre/Snoop diss records

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3T7z9Iayx4

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

in all seriousness though I thought Bad Medicine was this meaning as opposed to drug metaphor: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bad_medicine

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

I got bad medicine, I got the remedy

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

sorry it's a permanent disease

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

Pre-chorus seems to spell it out

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

"Edison's Medicine" > "Bad Medicine"

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link

The all-night generator is admittedly a little confusing.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

search for 'bad medicine terrible song'

About 20,700,000 results (0.91 seconds)

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link


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