Sinead O'Connor: C/D?

REMEMBERRRRRR what I TOLD YOU.

“You said I was childish, and you’ll say it now” is a sadly timeless line.

i love that album!

i'm pretty much banned from listening to sinead o connor in the flat because of some petty feud my bf has personally with her dating back to 80s dublin which i m sure nobody remembers but him

if she was of the world he would love her

anyway my favourite sinead is three babies and she is fn otm about that interview and emma barnett who is basically horrible

“Three Babies” also brought a tear to my eye on my commute this morning.

I listen to Lion and the Cobra a lot more frequently lately; I forgot how good I Do Not Want is

Has any American #1 album ever had a B-side that gets steadily quieter but intenser?

the title track is a cappella for god's sake

“Three Babies” also brought a tear to my eye on my commute this morning.

I listen to Lion and the Cobra a lot more frequently lately; I forgot how good I Do Not Want is

― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:18 (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglin

i do not want is pretty much a recent discovery, i've always loved the lion and the cobra. Mandinka! Troy!

I think all the time about the bit in jackie where she sings 'you're all wrong i said and they stared at the sand' like i fucking bet they did!

her statement about coming out of retirement made me think of the Tina Turner documentary on HBO and how she couldn’t escape relentless questioning about Ike after she told the story of his abuse. (Obvs Turner has a v different way of engaging with the world.)

Sinead is always being portrayed as a madwoman but I feel like time has vindicated her on most scores. A Cassandra.

She is on some real terrifying oracular shit throughout Lion and the Cobra

oh yeah, definitely its sortof infuriating how vindicated she is but how little that seems to affect the way she continues to be treated

what's the perception/treatment of her in Ireland these days?

i think the same as elsewhere, somewhat affectionate but dismissive. she is funny, articulate, but ultimately tragic, fallen and not to be taken too seriously. the video i posted above is a few years old but i think a great example of how she's dismissed even as/especially because she punctures the fatuous platforms that infuriatingly she continues to engage with

I think there's definitely if not a generation then a sub-generational grouping, overwhelmingly women, to who she's incredibly important and emblematic both for what she's done and what's been done to her.

listened to universal mother for the first time today. that's a fuckin great record

"Fire on Babylon"!

really nightmarish michel gondry video for that song too

absolute banger

She took my breath away w/this performance when I saw it at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilPU7Pw9os

I wish I was able to see her with Sly & Robbie. I love that not only did she record with them but she shelled out to take them on tour, too.

Some terrible news:

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/sinead-oconnors-17-year-old-son-shane-dies-apparent-suicide-going-miss-rcna11465

awful news, poor Sinead

incredibly sad

I’m going to take private time now to grieve my son. When I am ready I will be telling exactly how the Irish State in the ignorant, evil, self-serving, lying forms of Tusla and the HSE enabled and facilitated his death. Magdalene Ireland never went away. Ask the youth.

yeah this is horrible.

she's been through so much

Oh that's so sad

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Sounds like she's really not in a great place right now, hoping she is getting some help and comes through.

I wish I was able to see her with Sly & Robbie.

She was backed by Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce on her first North American tour. My jaw dropped when I recognized them on stage.

I cannot imagine anything worse, on a personal level, than losing a child.

Absolutely, it's unimaginable.

I have just read about her having a hard time dealing with her sons death. I hope she gets the help she needs.

In the YouTube comments for “Black Boys on Mopeds”:

I bought this cassette when I was in the Navy, during The Gulf War. After boot camp and A school. I was in Saudi Arabia and then Spain. In Spain I would listen to it in my shop. It ended up being confiscated due to the song, Black Boys on Mopeds. They sat me down and made me listen to it. "They" are the Commanding Officer on down". I was enlisted and 19. I was in a big office alone with them. I was faced so that I was looking at a huge portrait of President Bush 1.

It was so strange how mad they were about Margaret Thatcher 's name being mentioned in the song. It was also strange that they were stealing my property, especially music. They wanted me to destroy it in front of them, I couldn't bring myself to follow their orders. We were in that office for so long and I wasn't allowed to go to the head or given any water or chow the entire time and threatened with insubordination. I gave in because I knew they would get their way and it would hurt the other military females. There were not many of us at that time. I asked that this be kept quite and not to go on my service record as being disciplined. They agreed and I destroyed it. I was so mad and confused and hurt. I had a perfect record and was excellent at my job. Having this music would have ended all that? Obviously I have not forgotten or gotten over what I learned that day.

Fucking hate the military culture.

I love her contributions to a bunch of loosely similar dubby UK electronica. Like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUVErnrbVEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEr0Bxl6yhw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLR2ZPFz8CE

these are all so good, I love her in the "Visions of You" video just like, grooving

One of my favorite things of her is this groovy collab she did with U2 “I’m not your baby” (discovered it on Wenders’ End of Violence OST but it might have been recorded before that)

She sang Visions Of You with the Invaders Of The Heart when I saw them at The Marquee around the time of the single. I was impressed!

She is currently receiving treatment for mental health problems in a Dublin institution following the tragic death of her son. I hope she gets better help than he did.

Absolutely. Speaking as someone who has had relatives struggling with mental health, it's really sad to hear about her struggles on a regular basis, much more than any other news. It's really daunting and unfortunate to see how it can be a lifelong struggle, and how much unending work it can take to deal with it. Not just for her but for anyone.

I'm seeing the new documentary tonight!! I am SO excited.

Just got a message that Sinead has pulled out of her gig for the arts festival next month.

Had her hug me once in Dublin in the mid 90s.

Looks like she cancelled a current tour due to having to deal with coping with the death of her son. Tour would have included date in GIAF.

yeah, the announcement (advised to take the rest of the year off and reschedule in 2023 when she's feeling better) is on the opening page of her site https://www.sineadoconnor.com/

Those are all great Josh, thanks for reminding me of them - I always slot this with them as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ31yNp6Nao

I'm seeing the new documentary tonight!! I am SO excited.

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how was it? might see it on Wednesday

Mikal Gilmore has a long and great Facebook post more or less reviewing the documentary (starting with a few comments on the new Marilyn Monroe and Elvis movies to create some context), but you need to have an account and follow him to see it.

Also I watched Year of the Horse again - great performance, it's worth tracking down the DVD that pairs it with an earlier, lesser concert video (also an excellent performance, but ruined by intrusive video effects). Otherwise, it's visible here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iTviZRVKxA