ROLAND GARROS 2021

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that’s cumulative number of sets won?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

Yep. Soderling (r4, 2009) and Djokovic (qf, 2015) actually beat him; Djokovic additionally stretched him to a 5-set semi and two 4-set finals. Federer took a set in four of his six defeats. Isner led two sets to one in the opening round in 2011.

The list of players who have taken one set probably isn't that long either.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

novak is playing smart and patient vs berrettini

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

Because I had a spare 10min, here you go - the one-set wonders:

Grosjean
Puerta
Mathieu
Hewitt
Brands
Klizan
Ferrer
Sock
Goffin
Thiem

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

his dominance speaks for itself but seeing it that way is astounding

k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

How do the draws work if Djokovic wins? Would it be Nadal playing him in the semi-finals?

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

Nvm, I see now. It is like a ladder and not lowest vs highest rank.

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

Turned on the last qf on right at the end - didn't realise there was still a curfew, and they cleared out the crowd at some point? Novak made up for it, with all his bellowing nonsense. No code violation for booting the hell out of that ad hoarding? Lucky there wasn't a line judge behind it, a la Nalbandian. Oh well, Rafa-Novak part LVIII. Hope Rafa can tie up the h2h.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

couldnt watch the last set but berrettini gave away way too many pts w bad shot choices & errant slice backhands

rafa will beat novak

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

fucking loved that last set. krejcikova was tough as nails esp after getting screwed by the umpire on mp4.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 10 June 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

starting to think stefanos might never get to a slam final :/

Roz, Friday, 11 June 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

cmon you greek weirdo! break him here.

andrew m., Friday, 11 June 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

sigh. If Stef loses this, that’s probably it for me on the men’s side.

Not sure if it’s just nerves but he doesn’t look like himself from these past few weeks.

Roz, Friday, 11 June 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

looked away for a couple of games and this took a wild turn!

andrew m., Friday, 11 June 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link

FINALLY!

Roz, Friday, 11 June 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

yes! i will continue watching the tournament!

andrew m., Friday, 11 June 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

Right I’m tapping out - Rafa and Djoko took eight minutes just to finish the first game lol

Roz, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

but its been wildly compelling already

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

looking like a first set breadstick to go w the bagel rafa put on nole last fall

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

all these saved set pts ! wow

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

novak has smartly played more offensive this 2nd set

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

the tide has def turned for djokovic here

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

this may be covered above, but shouldn't the 1 and 3 seeds be meeting in the final, not the semi?

mookieproof, Friday, 11 June 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

i actually forget the rationale why they seeded like this, but yes

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

novaks hitting his forehand short in the court to rafas backhand has been the reason to my eye he is level (to nosing ahead) here

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

I honestly don't know if it works like this any more (or ever did), but my memory of seeding was always that it was odds vs odds and evens vs evens (e.g. 1v15, 2v16, 3v13, etc in the 4th round). But there have been numerous examples of it being purely opposite-ranks (1v16, 2v15, etc), and of it being more randomised (1v12, 2v9, 3v15, etc). I think it's a draw, and it's either 1v3/2v4 or 1v4/2v3.

This is exhausting to watch. And they're sending the crowd home in 35min!

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

this set has been unbelievable

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

no words for that set, unreal

& fans get to stay now !!?

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

I wish I could enjoy this as a neutral, but I hate the guy who is now in front! Staggeringly high level.

Why didn't they start the semis at noon?

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

They've extended the curfew!

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

Yeah insane scheduling, even by slam standards

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

Novak's serving really great since he lost the break. Got it back, won his next in a min.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

Nadal...on the brink?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

amazing by novak, so impressive

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

Lol it’s Macron, watching the game at home, who gave the special authorization to go beyond the curfew...

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

Lol it’s Macron, watching the game at home, who gave the special authorization to go beyond the curfew...

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

Just incredible last rally there by novak

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link

One more df Nadal..

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

Three MPs..

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link

welp. gotta endure that damn heart-throw routine again.

andrew m., Friday, 11 June 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

hopefully for the last time

andrew m., Friday, 11 June 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

this tourney

andrew m., Friday, 11 June 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Good luck Stef. Struggle to imagine him beating tonight's version of Novak, but we might get a different level on Sunday.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

this may be covered above, but shouldn't the 1 and 3 seeds be meeting in the final, not the semi?

― mookieproof, Friday, June 11, 2021 3:45 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i actually forget the rationale why they seeded like this, but yes

― johnny crunch, Friday, June 11, 2021 3:47 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

they randomize the draws to a degree so that 1 doesn’t always play 4, etc

k3vin k., Friday, 11 June 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

will be a lotta pressure on novak on sunday, regardless tho this win is p huge value for novaks legacy

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link

this win sets him up for a record number of Slam titles. current standing is Federer 20 / Nadal 20 / Djokovic 18. Nadal really needed this 21st to widen the gap, but now it seems only a matter of time until Djoko surpasses them both.

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 11 June 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

Yeah, the degree of randomisation in the seed bracketing is never really clear to me. Of course, 1-16 will always play 17-32 in the third round, and so on, but at some events it seems absolutely fixed as opposite ranks (1v32, 2v31, 3v30, 4v29, etc), others there's leeway of one or more place, others it's genuinely random within those ranking divisions.

From my youth I remember McEnroe (1) playing Kriek (5) in a Wimb qf, and the next year Connors (1) playing Curren (12) in the last sixteen. So I've been puzzling about this for 40 years! Maybe that was some weird AELTC experiment.

I hope we see the Djokovic who lost to Dan Evans in Monte Carlo, or struggled to put away 150-ranked opponents in the weak draw for Belgrade 2 the other week. He does have off days, far more than he did in his 2011 or 2015-16 peaks. But he barely missed for the last hour tonight.

Michael Jones, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link

A three-way tie for 20 slams is now the odds-on setup going into the US Open, right? Which means Novak would be trying sweep the 2021 Grand Slams AND become the first to get to 21 all at once. Unless something else happens.

Displaced Intimacy Coordinator (punning display), Friday, 11 June 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

Don’t forget the Olympics. We might see Novak getting the Golden Slam!

Meanwhile, this women’s final is pretty fun even if they can’t seem to play well at the same time. Love the contrast in styles.

Roz, Saturday, 12 June 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

Pavs crushing Haribo sweets during an MTO was hilarious.

She’s not moving well but still managed to play well enough to break Barbs serve and take the second set. And we’re going three!

Roz, Saturday, 12 June 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link


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