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i'm gonna be a single-issue acab voter in the mayoral primary i am sick of this nonsense

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

That plus charter school support is why not to rank Adams or Yang anywhere on the ballot. And I'm not too happy about K Garcia either.

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Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 13 June 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link

Well written

calstars, Sunday, 13 June 2021 12:06 (two years ago) link

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Tracer Hand, Sunday, 13 June 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

There was more of this but I couldn't make it past "the ultimate cooling experience".

Can't tell if the guy is clowining.

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link

I've seen a dozen warnings that the ballot is confusing and people are going to get it wrong...but I'm looking at my absentee ballot and it seems pretty straightforward?

How is everyone else finding it?

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

it was fine for me and i feel like the "ITS SO HARD"-ness is a conversation that is had/handwrung every election regardless of voting style? like, most people are stupid, don't forget...

it's not difficult but it is tedious

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 June 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

it's fine. it required some research for some of the downballot position and i wasn't aware there was ranked voting for comptroller for instance but i was voting lander only in any case, so...

only thing that bummed me out is last night I read that the two running for judge in queens were a "pick any two" so I didn't research them and then when I got there it was "pick one"

dan selzer, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

For comptroller there was some thing where you were supposed to vote for Corey Johnson second for some reason.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

the only confusing part for me was remembering to only pick one for the DA race, since that one isn't ranked-choice

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

we didn't have that in queens, but my city council race had 1000 candidates.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

Because I voted absentee, I had time to look up the judges, and I'm glad I did. I specifically have a bone to pick with the Kings County Democratic Committee, as a member of it who got dragged through a 12-hour zoom meeting right before Christmas where the party leaders just straight up lied to everyone and obstructed the progress that was legally supposed to happen.

I was not exactly thrilled to vote for my incumbent council person but she's better than her absolutely insane rival.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

couldn't quite bring myself to vote for paperboy prince

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

i ranked him fifth bcuz by that point i had forgotten what order i was supposed to be doing

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 June 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link

.@ericadamsfornyc “I’m going to promise you in one year, one year, you’re going to see a different city.” Promises economic development, Bitcoin, self-driving cars, renewed businesses.

— Sally Goldenberg (@SallyGold) June 23, 2021

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 04:06 (two years ago) link

So are all of the candidates just crackpots

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 05:16 (two years ago) link

greatest city in the world iirc

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 08:14 (two years ago) link

Bitcoin? Uhhh

calstars, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:00 (two years ago) link

hoping against hope for some unlikely combination of mail-in ballots and ranked-choice developments to still deliver us Mayor Wiley or, as a fallback, Mayor Garcia. Yang being out of the running is certainly a relief. but Adams is essentially a Republican and really does not bode well.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

nice to see though that some hedge fund manager completely wasted their money sponsoring the approximately 400 million glossy Ray McGuire mailers dumped on the city's mailboxes over the past month

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link

The police unions hate Adams though don’t they?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link

they hate everybody! anyway it's inconceivable adams would in any way restrain the police anymore than BdB has. his campaign has been like 95% "i was a cop and i carry a gun and crime is out of control."

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link

hoping against hope for some unlikely combination of mail-in ballots and ranked-choice developments to still deliver us Mayor Wiley or, as a fallback, Mayor Garcia. Yang being out of the running is certainly a relief. but Adams is essentially a Republican and really does not bode well.


Late-arriving mail ballots in Seattle have always skewed much more liberal, and if first choice votes for Wiley and Garcia heavily favor the other one at #2 this is more “plausible outcome” than “hope against hope” imo!

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link

Wiley's got my (absentee) vote!

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

I voted early and it was really the most pleasurable voting experience ever. I got to share the process with my kids and was easy as pie to mail in.

calstars, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

I don't get this part at all -

The first round of ranked-choice voting analysis will eliminate the bottom candidate, recount votes accordingly, then continue until there is a winner with 50% of the vote. The process will kick off next Tuesday, June 29, and will include only in-person votes.

Absentee ballots will be counted a week later, on July 6, and the process could recur the week of July 12 if uncounted or controversial ballots remain.

How can they do the ranked-choice stuff before they count the absentee ballots? Won't the absentee ballots change the order of the rankings?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

not enough outstanding ballots to alter the bottom quartile

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

I'm relieved to see Cornegy (probably?) out of range for Brooklyn Borough Pres, I must say.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

I guess I live in a Jimmy Van Bramer bubble, had not idea he'd be so decimated for Queens Borough Pres.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

A certain amount of work went into this:

https://www.vulture.com/2021/06/nyc-mayors-race-who-every-nyc-tv-character-would-vote-for.html

Alba, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

immediate quibble: tom from succession is definitely a registered republican

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

don’t really understand why this is such a long process. why wait a week to analyze in-person votes, which are presumably all scanned and easily to work with?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-local-correspondents/new-york-citys-mayoral-election-didnt-meet-the-moment

All other issues shrank in the face of the public-safety debate. Little time was given to discussion of public health, for instance, despite a pandemic that is still infecting hundreds of New Yorkers a day, or climate change, despite how little has been done to protect the city since Hurricane Sandy, in 2012. Most of the candidates’ campaign platforms contained detailed, serious policy plans on a range of issues, including housing, education, and economic development, and most of the candidates could discuss those details competently in public. But few of these details filtered out to voters. On Sunday, two days before primary day, Garcia, a former sanitation commissioner who made climate resilience a centerpiece of her campaign, shook hands with voters outside Zabar’s, on the Upper West Side, where one would expect to find many voters open to her pragmatic, get-stuff-done attitude. “A bunch of people tell her they’re voting for her,” Politico’s Erin Durkin tweeted from the scene, “though one woman vocally noted she’s for @ericadamsfornyc ‘because he’s a vegan and that’s the #1 thing you can do to save the planet.’ ”

it was an oddly muted and sometimes divorced-from-reality-feeling election/campaign process. in particular it felt like everyone was weirdly afraid of offending any Democrats currently in power. surely someone could have made hay out of how little BdB has accomplished in two tersm, or how much Cuomo has screwed the city under his watch...? i guess these are partly just "incumbent party problems" but in general the conversations were so vague or focused on very specific issues rather than an overall picture of what the city should be like.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

TIL that Curtis Sliwa has 15 cats.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

I had my mayoral choices ranked but I didn't realize I'd have to rank city council, comptroller and borough prez until my coworker mentioned it. I spent at least an hour deciding my ranking of the many City Council District 26 candidates. I ranked as # 1the person who came to my door twice--and he was ahead at the beginning of election night but now he is being overtaken by my #2. I think Jumane Williams had the advantage in being an incumbent for Queenz prez (and he also got a lot of the union endorsements) -- but I wasn't expecting Elizabeth Crowley to do so well.

If it's Adams we are in for a lot of random crazy politics in the next few years. At least the tabloids will have something to do. Adams says or does something ridiculous every day -- it's like having our own mini Trump for the city. My union endorsed him -- so I guess they are hoping that he will fund city agencies.

Virginia Plain, Thursday, 24 June 2021 03:35 (two years ago) link

District 26 was insane. A few of them came to my door. A few of them tried to stop me at the farmer's market. My wife contacted Julie Won, Amit Bagga and Haile Kim and gave them tours of Doughboy Park and Windmuller Playground to show them what a mess they are, Doughboy's extensive construction and dirt piles, Windmullers lack of any kinds of gates on the playground, rubber tiles under the playground structures installed upside down = slippery, and of course our great water feature, which was knocked over by a park truck so now is just a geyser spraying out of the ground.

I voted for, in this order: Won, Bagga, Haile Kim, Julia Forman and Jesse Laymon.

I see Won just overtook Bagga. I assumed Bagga would win and is probably a better "politician" than Won and figured it didn't hurt to put her first. Denise Keehan-Smith was a turn-off by going on and on about how many generations her family's been in Woodside and how important it is that she was born here. It's one of the most immigrant-heavy diverse places in american, who cares if you were born here! Emily Sharpe meanwhile put up actual billboards and barely made a dent.

A friend who's dealt with Woodside on the Move said Brent O'Leary was no good. I don't know the full story, I still give them money.

You mean Richards for Borough Pres. Agreed about Crowley but surprised about JVB. My wife said "we definitely live in the Jimmy Van Bramer bubble"! In Sunnyside/Woodside he seems like such a big player but obviously he doesn't have the recognition outside of District 26.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 June 2021 04:56 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgwHpxq-Jfw

dow, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

eric adams to vanity fair on monday:

What’s the best concert you’ve ever been to?

Curtis Mayfield at the Wingate Concert Series. At that concert there was a rainstorm and the lights fell on Curtis Mayfield and they actually paralyzed him at that concert. He died a few years ago, but it was an amazing concert before that happened. Just so unfortunate.

adam, Friday, 25 June 2021 12:01 (two years ago) link

Hi

NYC MAYOR RANKED CHOICE RESULTS ARE UP! (only early + in-person votes, no absentees yet)

Final Round:
Eric Adams 51.9%
Kathryn Garcia 48.9%

This is a real race folks. The uncounted absentee ballots have the potential to put Garcia over the top.

— Ryan Matsumoto (@ryanmatsumoto1) June 29, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

I still don't get how that makes sense. Don't they need to add the absentee ballots in first so they can determine the order candidates get eliminated in?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

Also there’s a typo. It’s adams 51.1.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

Or is it like "that's what the results would be without absentee ballots - and the absentees are enough to change things, so now we re-do the whole ranked-choice count"?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

You can run the rounds with the votes you have. This is a hypothetical final round. Wiley could still win in principle. Point is it’s close.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

Yes xp

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

ahh, ok - "What will happen on Tuesday is essentially an exercise: It will show only who would win based on votes that have already been tallied — that is, who would win if, hypothetically, there were no absentee ballots. Later, after absentee ballots have been counted, the board will take the new total that includes them and run a new set of elimination rounds — the real ones, for the final result."

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link


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