Rolling Jazz Thread 2021

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Expectations and Experience is certainly an apt title for Shawm Maxwell's new album of---jazz miniatures! A startling, refreshing experience: each track has its own identity, and satisfying enough lifespan (which can be tantalizing) in the cohesion, though "Alternative Facts," one of my faves, is the Crocus Behemoth at 4:17, without seeming any longer then the others (many are a little over one or two minutes): 17 tracks, unique subsets of 30 players total, as the leader-composer shifts between alto, soprano, and clarinet (bot mostly alto, I think) It's Young Chicago Today, continuing to see and hear so much, ready as anybody can be for quarantine, terse and witty, but not brittle, pensive sometimes, but not getting stuck in there, more of a ricochet though the grid of situations, with some aerial views---is it deep enough? The leader's succinct comments on the basis of each composition sometimes led me into great distracting expectations, but that's what I get for reading along while listening, should never do that. But it swept my few reservations along, though a (maybe!) stronger second half, especially? (Maybe, but the whole thing, incl. ballads, is quite a spin) https://shawnmaxwell.bandcamp.com/

dow, Monday, 7 June 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

Sometimes it's like the effective contrast between what you might expect from the title of Attica Blues and its actual sound: not harrowing catharsis, or a dirge, but a countermove to the weight, coming up for air, never stopping for long.

dow, Monday, 7 June 2021 18:43 (two years ago) link

I like the concept but it was rubbing me the wrong way for some reason, I'll try the second half another time.

These Tim Daisy/Vasco Trilla drum duets are really doing it for me however:
https://timdaisyrelayrecords.bandcamp.com/album/vasco-trilla-and-tim-daisy-bristling-duets-2021-relay-031

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 7 June 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

Oho, will check that, thanks. Yeah the Maxwell takes some getting used to; my reservations may come back. The mostly short tracks on Logan Richardson's Afrofuturism are roomier than Maxwells, bigger inside than out, in savvy cosmic showmanship that works even/especially on 8:14 "The Birth of Us," and a few more that go on for up to six minutes, but end just right (with a aoundtrack-associated continuity, incl. of synth and maybe organ, slipping in and out), Also, even though I haven't caught all the words in vocal samples, the timing, placement, cadence, and texture of voices is deft. Also: effective, wordless, non-scatting sung solo on "According to You," with happy response of strings, which previously appeared in the threnody "Black Wall Street," stirred by brief, incisive sax solo. "Birth..." seemed between Attica Blues and The Epic, and that impression took hold (speaking of savvy cosmic showmanship), but there's always a sense of Richardson's own concerns, of somebody thinking, of wariness and boldness, finding and seeking, solace and shelf life.
https://loganrichardsonmusic.bandcamp.com/

dow, Monday, 7 June 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

Lots of good stuff in here, I'm going to check out the Skuli Sverrison + Bill Frisell record and the posthumous Ralph Peterson (!) record, and I once again recommend hometown hero/drummer Devin Drobka's ambient contemporary classical piano trio record:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/best-jazz/the-best-jazz-on-bandcamp-may-2021

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

I guess the Skuli & Frisell record is from a few years ago, but is lovely.

The Ralph Peterson record is excellent. :(

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

I guess the Skuli & Frisell record is from a few years ago, but is lovely.

Discogs says it was released in 2018, I remember it being very expensive.

EvR, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link

...there will be a repressing if 90 more people reserve a $400 copy of the whole 5-lp set.

EvR, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

It seems like departed pianist Joan Wildman left a bunch of veritably unheard private press records in a storage unit, now being sold by a Milwaukee-based auction house for $50 a pop. Interesting mix of early electronics and new music/jazz piano improvisation, particularly on "Disintegration"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5-TM65fY4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWAuu9jQBDI

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

Oh, cool. It's funny, the whole time I was at UW Madison, I never once encountered her. I would just hear stories, and I was on Team Richard Davis (and I think there was some tension between them?). I also had no idea about making electronic music back then. But I wish I could have taken a class from her, she seems like a very interesting lady.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link

Also re: that Bandcamp list above, can confirm that the Schlarb/Taylor "Time No Changes" record is some seriously good ECM style jazz in the vein of Tibbets or Towner. Been playing it a lot the past few days.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Friday, 11 June 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link

I saw Nate Smith & Kinfolk in Madison last night, apparently their first post-pandemic show (!). Beautiful evening, a jazz-sized but enthusiastic crowd outdoors in a soccer stadium that usually has much larger concerts. Band was Nate, Jaleel Shaw, Fima Ephron, and Brad Allen Williams on guitar.

Incredible set, a lot of it really had a Brian Blade Fellowship jazz-Americana vibe (the guitarist especially, who's from Nashville apparently). And it looks like Jon Cowherd plays with them sometimes? But he threw in enough Nate Smith doing Nate Smith beat things for the people (incl. a Funky Drummer break routine w/JB samples that seemed specifically made for me, since that's all I've been practicing for the last couple weeks). You could tell there was a little bit of rust, like some missed hits, but nothing that mattered, it was incredibly musical & focused. Even the set programming was perfect, everyone took short solos as a matter of course but each member got one tune to stretch out on. Anyway, see this band if you can.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 14 June 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link

Sorry Memphis, not Nashville

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link

These Tim Daisy/Vasco Trilla drum duets are really doing it for me however:
https://timdaisyrelayrecords.bandcamp.com/album/vasco-trilla-and-tim-daisy-bristling-duets-2021-relay-031

Will get back to that, but just now, about halfway through, I was wanting some variety, and jumped to Realy 030, which is: Tim Daisy: drums + percussion + marimba + turntables
Ikue Mori: Electronics

Light and Shade... A selection of material recorded on various instruments reconstructed, reimagined, and remixed by NYC based electronic musician Ikue Mori. A remote collaboration shaped during a unique moment in time.Yeah, this moment, seems like: the perfect illusion of remix on the fly, with no sense of distancing, just whatever's brought forward, around and up and down, from Daisy's instruments, incl. whatever he's got going on the turntable. Nothing dumped on top or otherwise intruding (maybe voices in there at least once, but then again they may well be worked up from the frictions of percussion, or maybe samples of Robert Wyatt's Ladytron, or Enotron, or all of thee above). no jazz per se that, I've noticed yet, but that kind of appeal is generated by the freedom x process. Faves so far: "Thoughts are Things,' "Steel Flags."

https://timdaisyrelayrecords.bandcamp.com/album/tim-daisy-ikue-mori-light-and-shade-relay-030

dow, Monday, 14 June 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link

incredible set, a lot of it really had a Brian Blade Fellowship jazz-Americana vibe You might like Charles Lloyd and the Marvels' Tone Poem, which opens with Ornette's "Peace," cautious, shrewd and flexing, then xpost "Ramblin'" sets off, having decided the coast is clear enough for now---only thing that bothers me is Frisell's effects-laden loop de loops, apparently influenced by steel guitar, sometimes seem superfluous---well even more superfluous--next to the actual and no-b.s. steel guitar of Greg Leisz. On well, I cna listen around him, and he can bear down and knows, as they all do, not to gild the already gilded "Ay Amor," or fuck aronnd with "Monk's Mood, " for instance. Current fave is "Anthem" (by L.Cohen), which, despite its title, is pretty down to earth and grabbed me right away. Lloyd is not the most distinctive soloist, but he knows when just to shade and inflect this and curve around that, rather than bring on thee groovy noodles (although there's some of those, not too many)

dow, Monday, 14 June 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

Tim Daisy has really been killing it this year, like Zorn-level release schedule, it's almost too much. Those Ikue Morie duets are one the best releases.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link

I do like those recent Charles Lloyd records, and went in on them earlier this year, thanks! I'll have to go back to that one.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

Interviewed Anthony Braxton for my podcast this morning. It went great. (We didn't talk about politics.) The episode will be out next Friday.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

Looking fwd to that. re the interview you linked, I agree with him to an extent, but if he's going to talk about it at all, better to put in context of how systemic racism, and other forces that incl. divide and conquer, screw w perspectives. And harping on the Simon and Garfunkel advocacy don't help, in terms of coming off like a contrarian. I once some some festival footage where he was talking about Beefheart and Hendrix, saying he'd never met a musician who didn't like them---maybe he doesn't want to be that hipster-typical anymore? Read an article, maybe in Musician, that tagged him as being tagged as too out for the out---at another festival: "Hey, guys!" AEC: "Oh, you're here too, huh." But what he says in the linked interview about being a trainspotter as a kid, not being able to socialize conventionally, may have always affected him to some extent, like he seems eager but off-kilter in the interview, articulate, but yeah, if you're going to get into that stuff at all, you can't be hasty.

Speaking of Lloyd, when we were talking about him way up this thread, or last year's, I linked what was then the only bandcamp freebie from his Manhattan Stories: two mid-60s NYC concerts, with Ron Carter, Gabor Szabo, and Pete LaRoca. Now the other tracks are free-streaming too, and I sure hope they're anywhere near as good as the aforementioned 17:49 opener, "Sweet Georgia Bright" (sporting a video, even).

Ah, 1965: The Judson Hall recording comes from the archives of Resonance founder George Klabin, whose trove has previously yielded treasures from Bill Evans and Jimmy Giuffre. The Slugs' performances were recorded by Bjorn von Schlebrugge, who accompanied Lloyd to his Manhattan gigs.
https://charleslloyd.bandcamp.com/

dow, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link

That Grammy interview felt like clickbait tbh. Not much on the music either. If I was being generous, I'd say that the interviewer just doesn't understand systemic racism or structural analysis, but I think an anti BLM/CRT agenda comes through pretty clearly. The framing makes some of Braxton's comments look more reactionary than they are. There was nothing in Braxton's comments that supported the editorialising about BLM being an "insidious separatist movement". Braxton has always resisted reductive categories or received ideas of what he as a black musician should be about, so I can understand why he'd be critical of separatist or nationalist movements, but it's not clear that's what he thinks BLM is - that's all on the journalist. Braxton took the question about racial essentialism in good faith, but I'm not sure it was presented as such given the overall line being pushed, i.e. the implication that BLM and CRT are essentialist or separatist. Braxton certainly wants to talk up America, but I don't think anyone could seriously mistake his liberal patriotism for MAGA.

I don't think there's anything contrarian about his advocacy of S&G - he's always embraced a wide range of music and Simon's writing is a pretty neat fit into an extended Great America Songbook. The Latin shuffle Alex Hawkins puts under Bridge Over Troubled Water is refreshing after decades of over-earnest readings, while Old Friends, with Braxton's almost microtonal pitching, is genuinely moving.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 11:43 (two years ago) link

That Grammy interview felt like clickbait tbh. Not much on the music either. If I was being generous, I'd say that the interviewer just doesn't understand systemic racism or structural analysis, but I think an anti BLM/CRT agenda comes through pretty clearly. The framing makes some of Braxton's comments look more reactionary than they are. There was nothing in Braxton's comments that supported the editorialising about BLM being an "insidious separatist movement". Braxton has always resisted reductive categories or received ideas of what he as a black musician should be about, so I can understand why he'd be critical of separatist or nationalist movements, but it's not clear that's what he thinks BLM is - that's all on the journalist. Braxton took the question about racial essentialism in good faith, but I'm not sure it was presented as such given the overall line being pushed, i.e. the implication that BLM and CRT are essentialist or separatist. Braxton certainly wants to talk up America, but I don't think anyone could seriously mistake his liberal patriotism for MAGA.

Agree with all of this. No need to be generous, either. I follow the writer on Twitter and he's definitely a conservative — not a MAGA psycho, but the kind of asshole who thinks "cancel culture" and "virtue signaling" are real things. Between that and the hyperbole young music journalists are addicted to (Julian Lage is the best guitarist of the decade!), he's pretty annoying. And I feel like he kinda poisoned the well w/r/t Braxton, for other writers. After that interview was published, it took me two weeks to get mine re-scheduled.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 12:19 (two years ago) link

That's interesting. My interview took place a few days before the Grammy piece was published. He talked about being a "proud American", which in retrospect could be seen as an attempt to set things straight. Perhaps I'd have responded differently if the interview had been done after the Grammy one was published, but I didn't pursue that line at the time because it came across as "we're not all right wing assholes and there are things about America worth celebrating", which is fair enough. As Graham Lock's Forces In Motion shows, Braxton has nuanced and insightful things to say about racial politics, particularly in the contexts of jazz and classical music. It would be interesting to sit down and engage with Braxton on today's politics, but a white conservative is definitely not the best person for the job.

Tbf to younger journalists, there are structural reasons for the hyperbole and clickbait. Not that it's anything particularly new - I grew up with the UK music press telling me Oasis were genius and jazz didn't exist. Thank goodness for The Wire and the internet!

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 13:02 (two years ago) link

Nothing wrong with him liking whatever music, and if he can find something fresh, maybe revelatory, like Charlie Parker with "Cherokee," Coltrane with "My Favorite Things," that's great, but like I said, talking about them (and no other specific artists) in the context of that interview/framing device, struck me as seeming more ocntrarian, but no, certainly not some black MAGA head, it's just that, if you're gonna talk about *black* separatists (or the ones you see that way), better not leave out the white ones--and who knows, maybe he didn't, maybe that writer edited the transcript for his own pruposes---but, however it came about, that's how it looked--certainly not like Kanye or Qassandra though.

dow, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

His comments were fine imo. A lot of intelligent and progressive-minded people have reservations about critical race theory or cancel culture, or like Simon & Garfunkel. People don't need to contextualize everything they say.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 June 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link

75 Dollar Bill's live ateliers claus, out this year, starts with tracks from a 2016 show, right after the election: Chen says he's pissed with himself because he didn't see it coming, but takes out his frustrations in acerbic, swirling, African-influenced folk-rock-jazz, steadfast and developmental (sometimes sounding like two guitars), while Brown's found crate is very supportive. Later, in 2019, Chen also plays the lower register of soprano sax, while Andrew L.'s wide-ranging contrabass arco and Brown's "homemade horns" join in. One of their most consistent collections, https://75dollarbill.bandcamp.com/album/live-ateliers-claus

dow, Thursday, 17 June 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

This piece clarifies things a little. He finds certain aspects of today's social justice movements divisive, but as I expected, this comes from his own experience of being denounced as not black enough during the height of black power. I might not agree with everything he's saying, but I can respect his viewpoint and understand where he's coming from. As it happens, I don't think Braxton would necessarily have an issue with CRT per se - his comments on the racial politics of sweat in jazz photography, for example, fits right in with it. https://www.npr.org/2021/06/17/998656406/jazz-elder-statesman-anthony-braxton-continues-to-defy-expectations?t=1623948810962

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 17 June 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

He definitely mentioned critical race theory twice in a negative light in the Grammy interview but idk maybe there are interpretations of it he would agree with.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 June 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

I started listening to 12 Comp (ZIM) 2017 and was thinking it sounded great - then noticed it consists of 12 compositions, each one between 40 to 73 minutes in length! So that's two mammoth sets he's dropping!

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 June 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

Yeah, there's no getting around the comment about CRT being "far out" but I suppose the question is what he thinks it is. One of these things that would need to be unpacked carefully - which isn't something that conservative Grammy kid is interested in.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 17 June 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

Anyway, both box sets are wonderful and it was a joy to go deep on them with him. https://thequietus.com/articles/30084-anthony-braxton-interview

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 17 June 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

He taught at Wesleyan for over 20 years; I imagine he's not just basing his opinion on Youtube but it's true that it wasn't probed in depth in that interview. Will read your piece.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 17 June 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

Sure - I wasn't suggesting he was. I guess it could be said he's trying to get beyond the broader campus battle lines.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 17 June 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

Has the NTS series on Japanese jazz been linked here? Absolutely heroic work:

https://www.nts.live/shows/japanese-jazz-week

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 June 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

Avant-jazz thing from Terraza last night looks real good. I thought about going but it was a little late for me these days. The full thing is available on their FB page.

Rich Valley Girl, Poor Valley Girl (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 June 2021 13:14 (two years ago) link

International Anthem launching a podcast, starting with Angel Bat Dawid. Sounds great!

https://anchor.fm/international-anthem

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 18 June 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

Harpist Brandee Younger's Impulse! debut, Somewhere Different, will be released August 13. The first single will be out on Wednesday. The core band is trumpeter Maurice "Mobetta" Brown, tenor saxophonist Chelsea Baratz, flutist Anne Drummond, bassist Rashaan Carter and drummers Allan Mednard and Marcus Gilmore (switching off, I guess). Ron Carter plays on two tracks, one of which is called "Olivia Benson," and Tarriona "Tank" Ball from Tank and the Bangas (a UK group I've never listened to) is on one song.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 28 June 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

excited for that, though I actually wasn't all that thrilled by that duo album on Intl Anthem

rob, Monday, 28 June 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

This is better. Fuller arrangements, actual production.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 28 June 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

ha "actual production" is probably all I needed

rob, Monday, 28 June 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

Oh man, I absolutely loved that duo record with Dezron Douglas. I think the key was approaching it less as an "album" and more as a focused compilation pulled from their really charming streaming sets. I though the fondness for each other and the music really shone through on that one. Really excited for that Impulse! debut though, that's a great lineup.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 28 June 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

I really did want to like it more than I did, maybe it was a little *too* cozy for me? anyway, I'm excited to hear what she does with a full palette

rob, Monday, 28 June 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

Her 2019 album (recorded in 2013 and shelved) is really good, too.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 28 June 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

I had no idea that existed, thanks!

rob, Monday, 28 June 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

Tarriona "Tank" Ball from Tank and the Bangas (a UK group I've never listened to)

They're a New Orleans band

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 28 June 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

https://lionmilk.bandcamp.com/album/o-t-s

new live jazz thing from a younger LA crew

Bongo Jongus, Monday, 28 June 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

I liked his quarantine solo Rhodes album, will check that out, thanks

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 28 June 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

Still need to check those Brandee albs on bandcamp, thanx for reminders.
Following up on their well-received 2017 ESP-Disk’ album backing poet Amina Baraka, The Red Microphone added guitarist Dave Ross to its roster and went into the studio with Ivan Julian (guitarist of punk icons Richard Hell & the Voidoids). A few other veterans of the downtown NYC jazz scene joined in to help accompany the provocative, political poetry of John Pietaro, who doubles on voice and drums.
credits
released April 23, 2021

And I Became Of The Dark is so much thee 2020a incarnation of a certain kind of 1960s ESP-DISK, a funky, stimulating harvest of beatnik wordage, hipster humor and jazz resources, maybe with some busking experience to keep it engaging and freewheeling. The combo, incl. several multi-instrumentalists and a couple of guests, who don't overstay their welcome, on viola and bari, is always tight and exuberant; don't know how much of the de facto arrangements come from good drummer Pietaro, who is also listed as musical director, but they are usually worth listening around his voice when need be. He's better the closer he gets to actual singing and emphatic chanting, but even when he's just intoning, he never gets in the way that much. "Revenge of the Atom Spies" is perfect opener, should be the single. Gotta check their album with Baraka, which I think is on the ESP-DISK bandcamp. Nu Cantu En Esperanto!
https://theredmicrophone.bandcamp.com/

dow, Monday, 28 June 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link

My wife designed the CD for the Baraka album. It's a good one.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 28 June 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link

omg edicated to Saint Escrava Anastacia.
credits
released June 19, 2021

All instruments, vocalz, and synths performed, produced, recorded, arranged & mixed By Angel Bat Dawid.
https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/hush-harbor-mixtape-vol-1-doxology
First encounter w this, and don't know of course if it will seem as amazing now that I know what to expect (nothing like what I did expect from several titles, which is prob the point), but so far it's immediately compelling, often beguiling, with an eerie, tranquil intensity, and some shifting surfaces and perimeters (for inst, what's happening to the vocals going around the room---"I know I should be grateful"---in " 'Goree,' or Slave - Stick"---we also get the improbably redemption of overt Auto Tune sometimes, or maybe keys, emphasizing the inflection (of male group vocals? Or herself treated?) that suggests a African-Hebraic-Isalmic chain, rattling a little (the clarinet encourages this). One of the most affecting tracks is her untreated, a capella , "Bet"--followed, in a plausible way, by a calmly killer finale trilogy. None of this is an onslaught of sounds though; each room is only as full as need be. Seems like a rec to fans of adventurously historical clarinetists John Carter and Matana Roberts (her Coin Coin series, and maybe all of his Roots and Folklore: Episodes in the Development of American Folk Music, although the album from that I'm thinking of, and most familiar with, is Fields).

dow, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

I haven't pulled the trigger on that one yet. I am slowly coming around to the idea that I like the idea of Dawid a lot more than I like listening to her actual records.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link


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