Sinead O'Connor: C/D?

an ex colleague worked for Prince for a long time ago like.... he was not a nice person

If your life consists of studio time pockmarked with occasional TV binges, softball games, and fucking, how can you be nice, right?

The best story I heard (here?) was Prince tasking his guitar tech to waterproof an amp so that he could play underwater, at the bottom of a pool. The tech was of course doubtful, but spent a ton of time perfecting a rig that would actually work underwater. When he finally got back to Prince, Prince had forgotten all about it. But given it was Prince, I would totally believe he hadn't forgotten about it and was fucking with his tech the whole time. What's always been surprising about the Sinead story is the accusation of physical violence, which as far as I can tell is an outlier in the Prince dossier.

I mean he drove my friend into bankruptcy by not paying him for video production (he did all his video stuff for a while including the video for Seven) and then suing him to bury him in legal fees to avoid paying (after he demanded 24/7/365 servitude for a number of years)

but sure just part of being the great man

I hope that's not what you think I meant!

no sorry! sorry I just get angry remembering the whole thing

A guy with Prince's insane productivity is like a person who goes without sleep: they're not normal. Now add the bowing and scraping of minders and sycophants.

Only a matter of time before someone publishes a major article on Prince's shittiness and the public attitude to the guy shifts in a big way.

Can I just say here that Melody Maker's treatment of Sinead back in the 80s/90s was shameful, exploitative and abusive to quite a large degree.

Can I just say here that Melody Maker's the press' treatment of Sinead back in the 80s/90s was shameful, exploitative and abusive to quite a large degree.

Yeah I'm just remembering MM as that's what I read, dunno if the NME poked "harmless" fun in her direction to the same degree. Did the mainstream press (UK) even acknowledge popular music at that point?

https://princetext.tripod.com/n_1995.html

here's an article about how he would constantly fuck contractors over, my friend is the video production guy who was owed 400k (for the gett off video iirc)

https://princetext.tripod.com/n_1995.html

Did the mainstream press (UK) even acknowledge popular music at that point?

It was the 1980s/90s not the 1880s/90s.

This whole thread and no one has mentioned her glorious take on "She Moved Through The Fair" from the Michael Collins soundtrack. That version gives me goosebumps...

I picked up some of her later albums this weekend at Half Price Books, I don't know much past Am I Not Your Girl? except the various collabs she did with other artists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR9v3jWh-YM

This one is evergreen for me

After he died, he chewed out someone who was leaving him to work for George Michael.

I guess there is an afterlife.

Agh, early morning, pre-coffee slip - I meant after Prince died, it came out that etc etc

lol I know

This whole thread and no one has mentioned her glorious take on "She Moved Through The Fair" from the Michael Collins soundtrack. That version gives me goosebumps...

https://princetext.tripod.com/n_1995.html

here's an article about how he would constantly fuck contractors over, my friend is the video production guy who was owed 400k

fyi:

https://i.imgur.com/aSqAsGM.jpg

We are coming up to the 20th anniversary of her first retirement.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, June 7, 2021 6:14 PM (two days ago)

Unretired:

Good news. Fuck retiring. I retract. Am not retiring. I was temporarily allowing pigs in lipstick to fuck my head up... here's my statement..... in the form of these three photos. It's 'colourful' but that's me : ) #LetOConnorBeOConnor pic.twitter.com/wKoEKFANPk

— Sinead O'Connor (Shuhada Sadaqat) (@MagdaDavitt77) June 7, 2021

God damn <3

Wow.

By the way, non-UK ILXors won't be aware of the, er, interesting family history of Emma Barnett (presenter of Women's Hour) who Sinead singles out for particular opprobrium. Tittle tattle, for sure, but fascinating:

During Barnett's teenage years, her father ran brothels in the Greater Manchester area. The family home had been used for publicity shoots of some of the women and the recording of sex films. Previously convicted of "living off immoral earnings" and handed a suspended sentence,[7] in 2008 Barnett's father was sentenced to imprisonment for keeping brothels and controlling the prostitution of a trafficked woman; her mother received a suspended sentence for money laundering related to income from the brothels.[8][9][10] Barnett attended Manchester High School for Girls, an independent school.

"the dude abides" haha. love her.

hazards of listening to Sinead albums in late pregnancy: came completely unglued listening to “Black Boys on Mopeds,” suddenly sobbing on the drive to work. What a great song.

REMEMBERRRRRR what I TOLD YOU.

“You said I was childish, and you’ll say it now” is a sadly timeless line.

i love that album!

i'm pretty much banned from listening to sinead o connor in the flat because of some petty feud my bf has personally with her dating back to 80s dublin which i m sure nobody remembers but him

if she was of the world he would love her

anyway my favourite sinead is three babies and she is fn otm about that interview and emma barnett who is basically horrible

“Three Babies” also brought a tear to my eye on my commute this morning.

I listen to Lion and the Cobra a lot more frequently lately; I forgot how good I Do Not Want is

Has any American #1 album ever had a B-side that gets steadily quieter but intenser?

the title track is a cappella for god's sake

“Three Babies” also brought a tear to my eye on my commute this morning.

I listen to Lion and the Cobra a lot more frequently lately; I forgot how good I Do Not Want is

― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:18 (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglin

i do not want is pretty much a recent discovery, i've always loved the lion and the cobra. Mandinka! Troy!

I think all the time about the bit in jackie where she sings 'you're all wrong i said and they stared at the sand' like i fucking bet they did!

her statement about coming out of retirement made me think of the Tina Turner documentary on HBO and how she couldn’t escape relentless questioning about Ike after she told the story of his abuse. (Obvs Turner has a v different way of engaging with the world.)

Sinead is always being portrayed as a madwoman but I feel like time has vindicated her on most scores. A Cassandra.

She is on some real terrifying oracular shit throughout Lion and the Cobra

oh yeah, definitely its sortof infuriating how vindicated she is but how little that seems to affect the way she continues to be treated

what's the perception/treatment of her in Ireland these days?

i think the same as elsewhere, somewhat affectionate but dismissive. she is funny, articulate, but ultimately tragic, fallen and not to be taken too seriously. the video i posted above is a few years old but i think a great example of how she's dismissed even as/especially because she punctures the fatuous platforms that infuriatingly she continues to engage with

I think there's definitely if not a generation then a sub-generational grouping, overwhelmingly women, to who she's incredibly important and emblematic both for what she's done and what's been done to her.

listened to universal mother for the first time today. that's a fuckin great record

"Fire on Babylon"!

really nightmarish michel gondry video for that song too

absolute banger

She took my breath away w/this performance when I saw it at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilPU7Pw9os

I wish I was able to see her with Sly & Robbie. I love that not only did she record with them but she shelled out to take them on tour, too.

Some terrible news:

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/sinead-oconnors-17-year-old-son-shane-dies-apparent-suicide-going-miss-rcna11465

awful news, poor Sinead