A Thread for Starting Pitchers That Are Jacob deGrom

I checked in every few innings online last night. I take it he loaded the bases at one point; that's how precarious and improbable chasing Gibson is--one bad pitch can set you back weeks.

There was an error in that inning so I believe the first run would have been unearned. Also Degrom has in the past been super adept at escaping bases loaded jams unscathed.

Not especially meaningful, but:

https://img.mlbstatic.com/mlb-images/image/private/t_16x9/t_w1536/mlb/cdobiao2scbuwhrunhrq.jpg

Only four innings, but I can't resist:

A Thread for Pitchers Who Are Doing Really Well and Are Jacob deGrom

I have a classic second-guess. Snell walks two guys to load the bases with one out, he's upset over a call, and the next batter swings at the first pitch; check swing, inning-ending double play.

0.58 at the moment.

I'm actually watching. I hardly ever watch baseball anymore. I just fiddle with numbers and spout opinions.

You should watch baseball more often in my opinion, especially Vladdy Jr.

but yeah every deGrom is fun to watch at this point, feels like post-season.

I don't understand that Snell balk.

What a guy!

I mean, he almost fakes out the infield on the first pitch, then with two strikes he turns into Rod Carew.

0.56 now

6 innings, 80 pitches, 1 hit, 10 K, no walks, 3-0 lead. Unless he asked to be taken out, this seems premature by an inning, at least.

It's probably one of those post-shortened season precautions.

rojas gonna rojas

The Mets' announcers said deGrom's ERA is the lowest through 10 starts since Marichal in '66 (0.59--his 10th start was a 14-inning shutout!). Marichal's next three starts: 3 ER (9 innings), 6 ER (4 innings), 6 ER (6 innings). He finished the year at 2.23 over 307.1 innings.

I will take VHS's advice and go watch Vlad--3 for 3, double, HR, walk.

Mets suck

Tendonitis

Didn't realize he's starting tonight against the Cubs. Had to laugh at the latest mlb.com graphic (partly at myself, who's every bit as guilty):

"How deGrom Can Pass Gibson: 20 more starts + 19 more earned runs = 1.09 ERA (assumes an average of 6-1/3 innings per start)"

Which is kind of like saying "How X can pass Y: hit a HR every game for the next three weeks." I think it was the hospitalized kid in the Seinfeld episode who created the graphic.

He has struck out 4 of the first 5 batters?

Yes, he has struck out 4 of the first 5 batters.

5 of the first 6 now, but that last guy--a .156 hitter--took him to 11 pitches. So he's thrown 34 through two innings.

let's go starting pitchers who are named jacob degrom, let's do this

Two out, runner on third, knocks in the first run of the game and keeps his average above .400. It's almost comical.

Yeah it’s kind of expected now

Ominous--out of the game after 3 perfect innings (8K).

It's just gonna be like this all season huh

DeGrom and Ohtani should be allowed to take steroids for health reasons, for the good of the sport and my mental health

I have this horrible feeling that they'll just shut him down for the season at some point, and it'll be like Williams and Gwynn and Griffey and the Expos in '94 in the what-could-have-been department. But worse.

right shoulder soreness

yeah you could really tell he wasn’t right when he struck out his seventh straight hitter lol

You have to wonder if he was going strikeout ten in a row on a way to no hitter or something. But these small scares also feel like the risk of being so otherworldly. Like, humans aren’t supposed to be doing this.

it makes me wonder if he’s soft tbh

Even if he keeps pitching more or less regularly, it'll probably be close as to whether he even qualifies for the ERA title. Mets have 101 games left; he's at 67 innings, so he needs 95 more. If he got 18 more starts, he'd need to average 5+ per start--not a huge margin of error with him, it would seem. (If he were a hitter going after a batting title, he'd have enough of a cushion that he could fall short of the AB--they'd assign him the necessary 0-for, and he'd still win. Doesn't work for pitchers.)

he's at 0.54 ERA after 67 innings. i'm not so interested in the full season record, at the moment, because injuries happen.

but who else has had a comparable stretch over that shorter amount of innings (67 IP)? the only one i could think of was jack flaherty, who has a 0.70 ERA over a 64 inning stretch from 7/21/21 - 9/8/21. or, cherrypicking that, a 0.50 ERA over 54 innings from 8/1/21 - 9/8/21.

it seems like there would be relievers who approach this? someone with a baseball-ref subscription could probably figure this out in 2 seconds flat

7/21/21 - 9/8/21. or, cherrypicking that, a 0.50 ERA over 54 innings from 8/1/21 - 9/8/21.

all of those were from 2019, sorry

what year is it

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Did you check Gibson's '68 game log? He must have had a comparable stretch.

Gibson '68, start #12 through start #22: 8 shutouts, 0.27 ERA.

how many innings in that stretch?

must have been at least 72 with the shutouts

O_O

99 innings. Come to think of it, the two most obvious are Hershiser and Drysdale when they had their consecutive-scoreless-innings streaks. Hershiser ('88) -- 6 starts, 55 innings, 0.00; Drysdale ('68) -- 6 starts, 54 innings, 0.00.

Gibson's is easily the most impressive.

Jacob deGrom’s release points from all of his 4-seam fastballs and sliders this season. #Mets #LGM https://t.co/JGeWsQUw2d pic.twitter.com/gmGwNxyLY6

— Mathew Brownstein (@MBrownstein89) June 17, 2021

so sounds like the injury might not be anything serious

Holy shit @ that graph and video. I would like to see what other pitchers' looked like, but that seems like a huge deal.

Yeah, that's incredible. I wonder if his arm speed is comparable too.

I checked Gooden's best stretch in '85, and it was all of Sept./Oct., in the middle of a close pennant race (remember them?) with the Cardinals: 6 starts, 53 innings, 0.34. I won't even check that Leonard guy and whatever it was they were playing 120 years ago.

in the thread there’s a graph for dylan cease — it’s tight, but not like degrom’s

If I remember correctly, peak Kershaw was also ridiculously tight.

There is a full video in that guy's thread that is even more impressive. You can't really tell them apart until the pitch is over and he's falling away on one of them.

I watched the deGrom clip. If it's possible to feel sorry for someone who with $185 million dollars, I did--I'm sure he's carrying around a fair amount of guilt in with the disappointment.

Missed this piece from a week ago:

https://www.si.com/mlb/2023/06/12/jacob-degrom-tommy-john-surgery-injury-hall-of-fame-career#gid=ci02c19f43b00025c3&pid=1

Kind of funny that he includes Ruth, who seemed to move past the bittersweetness of his aborted pitching career. I know Fidrych's injury happened early, but I might include him instead.

Thought of José Fernández, too, but I see he does include both him and Fidrych as a different category.

Domingo Germán perfect through seven for the Yankees

Lol wrong thread

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