Abolish the Police

Fuck of

recoperation

Assigned
Cop
At
Birth

ACAB

https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/police-officer-sued-for-flipping-pregnant-womans-car-when-she-didnt-stop-fast-enough/

There's dashcam video on reddit and this woman was very clearly looking for a safe place to pull over (had slowed down, had her hazards on) when this impatient shitheel decided to PIT maneuver a pregnant woman's car.

there was one time I was getting pulled over where I abruptly reduced speed due to being startled and the cop gave me shit for 'pulling over and braking too abruptly'.

this lady tries to pull over safely and gets pitted by an aggro bro cop.

it's almost like these thugs just want obedience and worship.

Yeah, I just assume he didn't consider that "immediate compliance" and decided that risking not only her life, but anyone else on that highway's life, was the proper response.

It just makes me so angry because a) this is often what women are told to do, pull over somewhere safe and well lit (preferably in sight of witnesses or cameras) and b) it was also to his benefit because that narrow ass shoulder wasn't going to be safe a stop at all. Just, so infuriating.

we'd all be better off if a semi had domed him shortly after. fuck cops

https://www.tampabay.com/investigations/2021/07/24/pasco-sheriffs-office-letter-targets-residents-for-increased-accountability/

“You may wonder why you were enrolled in this program,” the letter continues. “You were selected as a result of an evaluation of your recent criminal behavior using an unbiased, evidence-based risk assessment designed to identify prolific offenders in our community. As a result of this designation, we will go to great efforts to encourage change in your life through enhanced support and increased accountability.”

This kind of language is just chilling.

wow. that is FUCKED UP

Terrifying.

in the same article, they link to this earlier investigation (https://projects.tampabay.com/projects/2020/investigations/police-pasco-sheriff-targeted/school-data/)

The Pasco Sheriff’s Office keeps a secret list of kids it thinks could “fall into a life of crime” based on factors like whether they’ve been abused or gotten a D or an F in school, according to the agency's internal intelligence manual.

The Sheriff’s Office assembles the list by combining the rosters for most middle and high schools in the county with records so sensitive, they’re protected by state and federal law.

School district data shows which children are struggling academically, miss too many classes or are sent to the office for discipline. Records from the state Department of Children and Families flag kids who have witnessed household violence or experienced it themselves.

According to the manual, any one of those factors makes a child more likely to become a criminal.

Four hundred and twenty kids are on the list, the Sheriff’s Office said.

i'm sure being on the Evil Kid List + One (1) criminal offense = on the Shit List forever in Pasco county. what a fucking shitty sheriff's dept, evil

also

SCOOP: Police all over America are regularly asking Shotspotter, the AI-powered microphones that "detect gunshots" to fabricate gunshots from thin air for court proceedings, according to court records we obtained. This is horrifying and nutshttps://t.co/vUvux0wfOu

— Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler) July 26, 2021

look,,, they just need more money and better training and a few billions in tactical military equipment.

.. so they can still lie, manipulate data and falsify evidence to continue locking up black and brown people.

Norman Truman Mpls punk legend died in a coma with brain swelling caused by being shot by police with a "non-lethal"rubber bullet

https://racketmn.com/remembering-minneapolis-punk-rocker-norman-truman/

ugh. that is why they call them "less lethal" because they know very well they are lethal.

https://gothamist.com/news/hack-oath-keepers-militia-group-includes-names-active-nypd-officers-de-blasio-launches-investigation

For years, when my friends and I would chant or even talk about "cops and Klan go hand in hand," less left types would sneer and call us wild-eyed and insane. But WE WERE RIGHT. ALL THESE MOTHERFUCKERS ARE FASCISTS!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dypkjx/us-police-donates-tactical-gear-ukraine

"better over there than here"?

lol I don't think they're giving away stuff without a replacement

THREAD. What's going on in West Hollywood should alarm you. A growing movement of residents is seeking to spend small portion of City's safety funds (17%) on social services instead of armed bureaucrats. Mayor is working behind scenes with Sheriff to stop it. A fascinating story:

— Alec Karakatsanis (@equalityAlec) March 26, 2022

this is fucking crazy

https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-school-police-tickets-fines

Don't like this!

it's so great to have teh police embedded even further into our lives

...And the schools abrogating their minimum responsibilities for students' welfare

reposting this here:

I've seen a few references to the idea that there have been court decisions establishing that police are under *zero* obligation to interfere in ongoing crimes—their duty is exclusively to investigate crimes after the fact, not to prevent crime or protect/come to the aid of victims in the process of being victimized—but none of these refs have been very official. Does anyone here know if this is true?

If so, I'm surprised I didn't hear more about that during the abolition debates in 2020, though it's certainly possible I did and forgot

― rob, Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:58 AM (twelve minutes ago)

If this is true, nearly all of the pro-cop arguments are moot afaict; their only preventative role is the discredited idea of "deterrence." Now clearly cops do intercede at times, but if that's purely at their personal discretion then this system is even more deeply fucked than I thought

i am supposed to be cleaning so i am resisting the urge to dig up quotes but:
- substantially all pro-cop arguments are false, what they do has nothing to do with safety and their training is developed by for-profit entities that don't know any science
- the court decisions are about whether you are entitled to a civil judgment for their failure to interfere, it is a very byzantine area of law generally and is resistant to hindsight judgment of basically any action (or omission) by police

w/ these things it's not really "there is zero obligation" it's "there is no law saying we have to award you/your family money for them failing to save you." they could still be fired and stuff.

Ah right thanks. I suppose this would require a prosecutor willing to make the charge, but can cops be found criminally negligent?

i mean i guess in theory it could be manslaughter but unlikely imo

here's a random bunch of cases around to this issue, plus a blog post w/links from the mises institute (lol sorry)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County

https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again

5-4 did a podcast on town of castle rock v gonzales

lol I think you saw the same tweets I did mark. Once I saw it was the Mises, I was like ehhhhh no. otoh I should have googled those cases myself

haha yeah, sorry -- but i did know abt this issue a while back, not least bcz i listen to 5-4

here's their episode: https://www.fivefourpod.com/episodes/castle-rock-v-gonzalez/

that looks good, thank u

i support the concept, but human beings like to persecute each other violently

also it's the end of the world

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, October 26, 2017

Adam Conover talking to Chris Fabricant of the Innocence Project about Junk Science, abuse of supposed forensic science etc in prosecution as her talks about in a book he's just publishing. I thought it might have some relevance to people's views on the police since it would appear to tend to be them trying to get experts to abuse forensic work that isn't as conclusive as proposed. Sounds like a book I'd like to read.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6FiPP2eSCHr1x5UMViFFWk?si=f9f50354c0c84a00

the uvalde police are so incompetent that even the melt-iest of down-the-middle political reporters are taking notice

I am v eager to read the accountability stories of how the Uvalde police managed to handcuff a father, threaten other parents w tasers... but utterly fail to apprehend the shooter until after he'd murdered 19 children...and then mislead the public about it.

— Ashley Parker (@AshleyRParker) May 26, 2022

For once, there is a mass shooting where clearly someone else was at fault besides the shooter and the easily available guns and ammo you can find across the country. I’m glad it’s the cops that will eat shit this time, but they’re going to get new surplus military equipment soon anyway so I expect they will be fine

"Uvalde City Councilmember Everardo Zamora told NBC’s “TODAY” show Thursday that while people outside accused police of inaction, officers were already in the building.

Zamora said he arrived at the school around 11:45 a.m. and already saw numerous officers and Border Patrol agents trying to push people back and prevent them from entering the building.

“This whole place was full of police officers,” he said.

“They were already in there. I seen them running in there," Zamora added."

guys, he seen em. guess case closed.

i saw them being useless with my own eyes

NEW: Texas law enforcement officials at a press conference say they believe that all the children that were shot and killed in Uvalde, TX were shot by Salvador Ramos and not anyone else [i.e. law enforcement].

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) May 25, 2022

they shot innocent people, didn't they?

wait they "believe"?

" … a lot of questions already answered by my shirt"

can not be reformed

Adam Johnson:

What’s important to understand is that this is entirely par for course. The default assumption any time police make a claim should be that they are lying. Not that they could be lying, or that they may have incomplete information, or that they’re good-faith confused, but that they are doing what they all do: covering their ass, protecting their own, and, as is often the case, lying to achieve both of these ends. This is their ethos and always has been. Police lie as a rule, not now and then, not only in certain circumstances. Institutionally and by default, they obscure, bullshit, make things up, victim-blame, and deceive. Because they know they can and, even if they are caught, there is zero institutional pushback or consequence from either city officials or the media

https://thecolumn.substack.com/p/after-uvalde-police-lie-should-be

there are certainly cops who tell the truth. i knew one of them quite well. but on the whole, you have to assume that a profession where you are above the law (because you are the law) will attract an extraordinary number of people who, subconsciously or very consciously, desire to be above the law

like judge dredd, for example