Navigating through Krautrock

Didn't mention later Kraftwerk because I assumed everyone has/likes them and aren't really considered 'krautrock'.

-- Tripmaker (tripmaker...), August 12th, 2005.

I think so, too, and wish someone would release the whole Johannes Vester solo album.

T Dream got way, way worse than amon duul ever did. The worst AD acheived was utter mediocrity, TD, early eighties onwards, are actually offensive to listen to. Also, not AD equivalent of the "dream mixes". I don't think you can go far wrong w/any /70's TD, though.

Whereas Amon Duul II's "Hijack", which came out in 1974, is rubbish

http://www.connollyco.com/discography/tangerine_dream/

Scroll down to "Hyperborea" which is probably the last one I could stand to listen to, and then see how much further you have to scroll down to to get to the bottom (metaphorically & literally!)

"Stratosfear" is one of my favourites, I must admit.

Can: Monster Movie; Tago Mago; Ege Bamyasi; Future Days; Soon Over Babaluma
Faust: The Wumme Years (Faust; So Far; Faust Tapes; 71 Minutes; BBC Sessions +); IV
Neu!: Neu!; Neu! 2; Neu! '75

Actually pashmina would love these shops.

please, someone, find me a genre this isn't true of.

following a lengthy, drunken and immensely enjoyable chat with my biopsychology tutor, during which i explained how my knowledge of krautrock is patchy as fuck, he presented me with a CD on wednesday containing the following albums:

amon düül II: yeti
ash ra tempel: seven up
can: future days
cluster: zuckerzeit
harmonia: deluxe
klaus schulze: blackdance
la düsseldorf: la düsseldorf
michael rother: radio (singles)
tangerine dream: poland (warsaw concert)

it is blowing my little mind. zuckerzeit ... i can't believe that was 1974. 1974! and right now i'm grooving happily, privately to michael rother.

i didn't realise how richly melodic so much of this was; i've always thought, aye, krautrock, chugga-CHUGGA-chugga-CHUGGA, nice one. but really, i feel whole new musical vistas are opening up here. surprisingly, the one i engaged with the least (which doesn't mean i didn't enjoy it; just that it didn't captivate me as much) was future days.

not listened to the acid-drenched ash ra tempel thing yet: really looking forward to that.

All those albums on one CD?

-rom, then. smartarse ;)

(although it did confuse the shit out of me at first when i looked at the tracklisting: he said he'd do me a krautrock sampler, and i thought it was going to be a mix.)

You should get the top 50 albums in julian copes list then get the rest!

"Future Days" isn't in his Top 50

Along with some other kanonikal albums

"Future Days" isn't in his Top 50

Part of me wonders if Jaki Liebezeit had never made that comment about not being a fan of Future Days whether it would just be universally regarded as their best album.

I don't. It wouldn't.

Perhaps because you've been completely taken with the narrative that it's somehow a "weaker" entry in their catalogue. It's not.

I can't imagine how Future Days can be considered a weaker album.

Exactly.

agreed

it's the album I listen to most these (not so future) days

Perhaps because you've been completely taken with the narrative that it's somehow a "weaker" entry in their catalogue. It's not.

But it isn't, it's probably the single most celebrated album in their catalogue! I've been saying here for years that it's overrated and I think about three people have agreed with me in as many years!

It is? Over Monster Movie and Tago Mago?

I must have missed that conference.

I don't know what won the poll here, it might even have been "Ege Bamyasi", but "Future Days" tends to have the most rhapsodic bollocks written about it

Anyway Jaki might not like "Future Days" but Holger does - FITE!

Tago Mago is amazing, also Monster Movie and Soundtracks

But it isn't, it's probably the single most celebrated album in their catalogue!

Well...it probably was in the early 1990's. But Future Days is not even close to being the most celebrated in their catalogue at this point. Once Liebezeit's quote got out there, and Cope didn't even include it among the essential Can records (the single biggest oversight in Krautrocksampler), it really took a backseat to Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi.

Tell me a bit more about that Cluster album, grimly. There's a fantastic track on the new Optimo mix which has made me want to investigate further.

future days is only their most celebrated because it makes a nice t-shirt. Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi are by far more critically (and fan) favored. But Future Days is my fave.

Hear hear

"future days is only their most celebrated because it makes a nice t-shirt. "

truthbomb

"ege bamyasi makes a nice stew with bits of beef and carrots and that..."

has anyone read this article by Klaus D. Mueller from Perfect Sound Forever?

http://www.furious.com/perfect/krautrock.html

totally dismissive of a lot of things- what a crabby dude. but i do agree with his opinions re: julian cope/krautrocksampler, that guy does an awful lot of blathering about mediocre records