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oh i guess i need cobra verde too. man i'm so ghey for this group.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

and thx for the emusic link, i'm using the free trial to get them shits

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually a lot of the bonus trax on these releases look as if they're well worth having - but do they actually give you any proper information on what they are and where they're from? The titles of some of the tracks look suspiciously made up too - i.e., record company find untitled piece on tape, "Uhhhhhhhh, what will we call this one?" "How 'bout "King Minos Part 4" or "Aguirre Part 27"?"

Il mio nome e' Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 June 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

There's no information about the extras. The reissues are dissapointing generally in this respect.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 June 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

haa yeah bonus tracks.. more like bogus tracks. they remind me of the bonus tracks on the amon duul 2 remasters where they are just slightly varied alternate versions of tracks on other albums. i think the only exception to this so far is the long one on "affenstunde", which turns out to be better than the actual album. otherwise they aren't really anything to get worked up about. if i get a chance, i'll go through and list matching bonus tracks to albums.

listened to some of cobra verde last night, half of it sounds like a gas album without the buried house thump, fucking awesome.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link

yo eman, if you want to settle for a tape of Brueder Des Schattens... let me know. hell, i could probably rip the thing. it's only like four tracks or something.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

ian, got it already but thanks. i'll probably end up buying it anyway

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the two bonus tracks on In den Gärten des Pharaos treated me really well. reminded me of that '71 beat club TV piece, when they were just doing slabs of moog drone -- very simple stuff but their aim is true

that 'Train Through Time' track on the Affenstunde reissue I like better than the album!

the Aguirre bonus track is basically the title theme one more time with one extra overdub, probably not worth buying the album again if you've already got it, but I don't mind hearing it three times a sitting

very curious about that 70's Progressives compilation, someone figure out what that is and post back.

I still don't have all the 70's albums, I'm kind of spacing out the purchases at this point, savoring each new one. I just finally bought Hosianna Mantra, zero gravity

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

70's progs comp is just like "the best-loved songs of PV," as far as i could tell - i just saw it for the first time the other night

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

tracklisting for "70s Progressives" w/ album names

1. Wanderer Am Himmel 8:18 (?)
2. They Danced, They Laughed, As Of Old 4:50 (Agape-Agape)
3. Eastern Sunrise 4:12 (?)
4. Am Tor 3:47 (?)
5. Love-Love 5:24 (Agape-Agape)
6. Der Große Krieger 3:10 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
7. Wo Bist Du? 5:40 (Der Nacht der Seele)
8. Dort Ist Der Weg 4:29 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
9. In Deine Hände 3:01 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
10. Calling You 4:42 (?)
11. Oh Wie Nah Ist Der Weg Hinab 4:36 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)

the 4 tracks i couldn't place only had a reference to what looks like another comp. called "florian fricke"
http://www.progarchives.com//Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6250

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

AMG sez they're from Herz aus Glas

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ah there you go then. what's up with the track titles differing between amazon and amg?

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Downloaded three albums *for free* from emusic last night, Affenstunde, Hosianna Mantra, and Einsager whatever. Could have had four if it wasn't for the extra tracks, and too lazy to work this out beforehand, so I got three Colourbox tracks as well.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Just got the two fer, Einsjäger und Siebenjäger/Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte at Wayside, a great deal for $18. I'm loving the serpentine guitar solos on Letzte -- a few moments almost sounded like Television!

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

... I often describe Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing as a cross between David Gilmour and Tom Verlaine... in fact, I'm surprised I hadn't done so on this thread till now!

One Man's Mede Is Another Man's Persian (Dada), Friday, 8 September 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Up above I forgot to mention this album:

http://www.enricobassi.it/playsmozartfrontpic.JPG

... which I haven't heard, but I think I can imagine what it sounds like, and which I used to see a lot in one record shop in Glasgow and almost bought until I realised I was a fan not a fool

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:00 (seventeen years ago) link

So, are these albums all worthless then or what?

Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves
Shepherd's Symphony
For Me And You
City Raga

I see them around cheap-ish, but life's too short to be a completist if they really are that bad.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I've played "Shepherd's Symphony" once and "City Raga", errrrrrrr, once also - so I wouldn't bother, personally. I quite like some of "For Me And You" (the bits that sound like Popol Vuh funnily enough). Never heard "Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves", it's re-recordings or re-mixings (sic) of old material, don't see the attraction in that.

However, have heard good reports on "Messa Di Orfeo", which is from 1999ish, have never actually seen a copy tho.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Messa di Orfeo seems kind of hard to find. It was only issued by some European label. I spent a while looking for it on Gemm.com, but never found a really good price. From what I heard of it on last.fm, it sounds amazing though. Way way better than the other Popol Vuh album I ended up buying.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Played "City Raga" again, it's rubbish, avoid it like the plague, I beseech thee

TS: Mick Ralphs v. Ariel Bender (Dada), Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing is awesome and inspirational. Remember when ILM was informative ?

Geordie Racer, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link

messa di orfeo is actually pretty good

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Still not heard it. It's Florian tho and not Guido Hieronymous clogging everything up and ruining it?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

right

Messa di Orfeo (Spalax, 1998) documents a 1998 multimedia installation by Fricke (keyboards), Fiedler (video), Guillermina De Germano (vocals) and Maya Rose (vocals)

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

This reminds me that I gotta get Cobra Verde OST this month when my eMusic creds refresh.

The big question about Fichelscher is where the hell is he? What does he do with his hands instead of doing that Kleiner Krieger thang?

Jon Lewis, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

hey the search engine's finding this thread again, it was lost for a while. I was trying to wake it up to say how good Messa di Orfeo is.

the first time the recitational comes on, I thought 'ok I could listen to that woman's voice forever', and was happyy when it turns out they were thinking exactly the same thing. and the return to electronics really works -- the sampled crickets & insect harmonics are great. finally found a copy of the CD this weekend and the booklet's filled with color photos of the recording sessions & installation, including De Germano at the mic and a picture of the huge chorus.

also been listening to Hosianna Mantra a _lot_ these last few months. you really have to be in a wispy mood I guess but sometimes I think this one's my favorite

Milton Parker, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

lately i've been listening to:
-bruder des schattens-sohne des lichts
-Letzte Tage, Letzte Nächte
-Herz aus Glas

that mid seventies stuff reallllly does it for me.

ian, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

remembered to check for pv on emusic, got four albs, and the first three tracks of hosianna mantra have been blowing my mind all day

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess i gotta listen to that one again. My copy has a bit of surface noise and it always agitates me. Does emusic have Bruder des Schattens? That's my fave, probably.

ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah it does - i ran out of DL's though before i could get it

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

emusic has k-vuh.

Even Cobra Verde.

It's all in the recent remaster versions, which are not always superior to previous editions, but mostly fine.

Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Hosianna Mantra is probably my favorite, though it doesn't really compare to any of the others (not rock, not electronic, less clay binding it to the ground)

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i need an LP copy of the aguirre soundtrack, if anyone has one to spare. even a crappy bootleg! ("need")

ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic ILM thread!

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

However, have heard good reports on "Messa Di Orfeo", which is from 1999ish, have never actually seen a copy tho.

Finally got to hear this. It's nice, not an out-and-out classic, but very worthwhile and good that the last thing Florian recorded (or the last that was released) was something of a return to his roots: experimental, electronic and, unlike most latter day Popol Vuh, not a misguided (or misGuidoed) attempt to be down with the kidz. A live recording I believe.

Also heard "Yoga", which is also a nice album but really has nothing much to do with Popol Vuh. Apparently it was recorded by Florian Fricke, and he may have played harmonium on it, but it was released without his permission.

Next stop is to finally get to hear "Die Erde und ich sind eins", an album of vocal chants, which was a private release, credited solely to Florian Fricke.

Tom D., Thursday, 6 March 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DON-CogKcfk

=)

am0n, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q19C220Vvo

am0n, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks!

ian, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

kyrie is definitely top 5 vuh jams

69, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link

we jammed that one at your place after the FMU fair!

69, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link

, ian

69, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

If ever a band warranted a box set, it's this one

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

ahh, man, i'm floatin in the pharao's garten.

LOUT of ICHOR (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 October 2008 08:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i got a copy of aguirre sdtrk a few weeks ago.
lovin it.

the really do need a box set.

ian, Sunday, 26 October 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

goddamn, i don't think there's ever been a band where i've said to myself more often "ah, this is the last one i need!" and been wrong every time. i mean, i THINK i've got everything, then i notice how many soundtracks they did. and "yoga." and that guido hieronymous shit, though i doubt i need those.

open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link

also, some of the recurring themes on "coeur de verre" remind me of "hiroshima" by flower travellin' band.

open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

What albums that on? "Hiroshima", I mean.

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2008 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"made in japan"

open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link

guido heironymous albs are pretty bad....

Yeah, there's a number of the piano/drums/guitar albums that are basically the same kind of stuff, probably somehat repetitive if you don't dig PV*, but I find that I can never have too much of it, somehow.

(*If you actively dislike Popol Vuh, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything. etc etc)

Pashmina, Friday, 14 November 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably said something similar upthread, but Daniel Fichelscher has got to be THE underrated "sleeper" guitarist's guitarist, how he isn't better-known is a mystery to me. I've never read an article about him in a guitar magazine once.

Pashmina, Friday, 14 November 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link


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