American Beauty - I'm a fucking dumbass

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The s/t was alright, yeah.

― Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I think there are some very good things about the script, but they don't include the characters or dialogue.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Ice Storm, too. Even though, let's face it, it's a bit of an evil movie.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

The s/t was alright, yeah.

Very similar to Six Feet Under for obvious reasons.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Even though, let's face it, it's a bit of an evil movie.

What do you mean by this?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

adultery, evil christina ricci, electrocution, drunk kevin kline

EVIL

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Nixon masks!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

she can sigourney my weaver anytime

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

In retrospect the whole film seems very smug and bourgeois. It's a guilty pleasure because it is totally pandering to a specific audience and the older, wiser me finds much of the tone of the film a little icky an poorly-judged. I still enjoy the way it looks.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps you disagree.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmmm, I haven't seen it in a few years. Perhaps I'll go back and see.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Know what's a really bad movie? Consenting Adults.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

In terms of utter creepiness, American Beauty < Your Friends and Neighbors < The Ice Storm <<<<<<<<<< Happiness.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

i disagree that The Ice Storm is Evil. I primarily love it because of the incredibly good acting though.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Evil with a capital E!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer OTM... one of the worst movies I've ever paid money for.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Tracer: you want to see real estate saleswomen feeling lonely in empty apartments + alienation of the "striving class" in general + the futile attempts to recapture youth = you want taiwanese cinema, specifically Edward Yang and Tsai Ming-liang, each of whom takes craps that are more interesting than AB

This is completely OTM. I always recommend 'Yi-Yi' to 'American Beauty' lovers.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

seconded.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

thirded.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

is it time for a *slurp slurp*?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

ewwww.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

right thread.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

there's some fierce alienation going on in 'what time is it there?'.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

the French film Time Out is yet another better take on this type of story.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

oh oh oh that's a good one too!

xpost

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Happiness is fucking BOLLOCKS.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

seconded.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha! I used to really like Happiness.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Happiness is just an unfunny Farrelly Brothers film crossed with the worst aspects of Vice.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

All of that "cinema of misanthropy" stuff is just horrible, really.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Gear!, that is the best description of Happiness that I've ever read.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I blame the French. Watch Amateur!st get mad at me.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

the best shot during happiness is when PST comes over to LFB's place and there's this 60-90 second shot of him slowwwwwwwwwwwly leaning across the couch which she breaks with "This isn't going to work out"... haha, i laughed both times i saw it.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

*a piece of paper blows in the wind*

Peter 'Family Guy' Griffin: Sometimes there is so much beauty in the world that I feel like I can't take it.

*cut to heaven*

God: What's wrong with you?!?! It's just a piece of paper! Do you know how complex the circulatory system is?!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

When is somebody going to mention Larry Clark?

Larry Clark.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Blowing my own head off is more appealing than watching Happiness ever, ever again.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

sadly accurate too, Nicole!

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

happiness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost in translation

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

>>>>>>>>>>>>> american beauty

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"Bully" was pretty good, i thought.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember someone accusing me of not being able to handle "true" filmmaking because I didn't like Happiness.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd like to see it. What was the one with james woods? Was that good?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

welcome to the dollhouse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happiness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> storytelling

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I see a trend there.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, "Happiness" is fucking garbage. "The Ice Storm" is pretty good but even patchier (and much shallower) than AB.

― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

gygax, what's your take on JOHN WATERS?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't stand fucking lame ass yuppie guilt movies where a character has to die in some shocking manner to pay for his/his family's sins.

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I LOVE JW!!!

Seriously, can't get enough. He's in town a lot, did you know? He goes shopping in the tenderloin for old books 1-2x a year.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I have yet to see a celebrity in SF.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

But then I'm hardly ever there now.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

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