― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 November 2002 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
Hum dee dai la la hum dei dei la la la la laHum dee dai la la hum dei dei la la la la laKids!"
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 November 2002 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
(1st person to mention 'Australia' is 1st on the boat...)
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 21 November 2002 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 21 November 2002 16:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
hashtags are more toxic to the US political climate than all the corporate money in the world
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 30 November 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link
The left is unhealthily obsessed with moral purity.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 30 November 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
man alive otm
― Treeship, Monday, 30 November 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
the left a lot of my leftist friends who post a lot on facebook and a few writers they admire, basically
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
the left are the worst
― flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
ban strollers
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
xp- actually Hurting, iirc i follow Doug Henwood on facebook because of a post you made on ilx about how he's fun to follow as a cipher into intra-left squabbles. too hooked on hatereading to unfollow :(
― flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link
#mindBlown
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
xp I generally like Henwood, he just has a lot of weird hangers-on.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
ah that wasn't clear, i meant hate-reading his comment threads and intra-left squabbles he links to. i like henwood a lot, even if he's a little too partisan/hard left for my taste. i actually met him under hilarious circumstances in montreal last summer. he was tweeting about feeling embarrassed to be seen reading HRC's memoir (which he was reading for the review that turned into his controversially designed book) at a montreal cafe, and i looked over and saw him at a neighbouring table with the book on his lap!
― flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
Wow @ 2002 opinions. I've been pretty solidly pro-choice and anti-death penalty for a long time.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link
not every shooter is a terrorist
― flappy bird, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
pretty uncontroversial there. if you're talking about the planned parenthood thing, almost no one in the media is calling him a terrorist. he's just a disgruntled gentle guy who was having a bad day and just happened to be near planned parenthood. these things happen
― Karl Malone, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link
Such a hapless goofball. You can't help but love him!
― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
i don't know if this is controversial or even an opinion but i do believe that if pro-life activists believe what they say about abortion is true (that it is literally murder and there has literally been one of history's greatest genocides going on in the US for years) there should be way more clinic shootings. think about the kind of behavior you would condone if you felt it was designed to stymie an actual genocide. otoh from the beginning of this year: "If we were in 30's Berlin we'd all be Nazi's," so maybe not.
― Mordy, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Not everything in the respective threads are racist/sexist/antisemitism
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Monday, 30 November 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link
how dare you
― Mordy, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
"otoh from the beginning of this year thread" i meant
I sometimes feel similarly about people who are vegetarians/vegans for animal rights reasons. Why don't they at least push for anti-meat legislation more often?
I don't see how there is much of a case for abortion being a genocide by this definition, though, even if you think it is murder.
3xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 November 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
think about the kind of behavior you would condone if you felt it was designed to stymie an actual genocide
you could go all the way up to genocide minus one
― flopson, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
fair enough - i was using genocide loosely to mean the intentional murder of huge quantities of people in a systemic manner. i don't think they're being discriminated against on account of their race or religion. xp
― Mordy, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
Pet breeds basically = killing dogs and cats for ornament and amusement.
And yet it's socially acceptable, even classy.
"Ooh, lovely dog! Is that a Glaswegian Sproinger Spaniel?" "Yes!" "I love their temperament. And such majestic bearing!"
"May I pet your dog? What breed is she?" "She's an Ethiopian Sticklefoot. Yes, it's rare for E-Stickies have this golden color, but she took a ribbon for Best in Show last month!"
I get that people may want a pet that works well for their household and lifestyle.
But with millions of dogs and cats being put to sleep for lack of a good home, any and all intentional breeding is like throwing gas on the fire. And failing (or refusing) to spay/neuter is equally reckless.
News flash: dogs don't give a shit about whether they're a Norwegian Bumbleneck or a Mexican Cockless. If an intentionally-bred pet is beautiful or noble, bully for you... but as for the practice as a whole, why not footbinding, or toddler bonsai?
― the minor fall, the lemon lift (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
I'm (recently) vegan for a lot of reasons, not just animal rights, but I think greater public awareness of the consequences of factory farming and animal-based diets is more effective than legislation at this point. Also I'm not necessarily a bleeding-heart animal lover. I'm more interested in seeing people significantly reduce their consumption of meat/dairy/eggs/etc than in seeing everyone go fully vegan. Though at the rate humanity is trashing this earth, at some point most of us will be forced to give up animal consumption.
― welltris (crüt), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
Or we'll populate the seas w/ plankton and consume vast amounts of fish?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link
people don't push for anti-meat legislation because it has absolutely no chance and it makes meateaters incredibly angry to even discuss the concept. otherwise reasonable people get visibly shaken and angry and begin yelling at good friends and ruining dinners and family gatherings, and even after the tension thaws out a little bit, during future gatherings there are countless side-remarks that fly around the room about how such and such was on the dinner menu to accommodate "the vegan" (even if you're not a vegan) and assumptions that the non-meateater is deeply disappointed at everyone around them and probably thinks they're a bad person because of how they eat meat. if somehow anti-meat legislation was ever seriously brought to the floor i'd strongly consider protesting against it just so that i didn't have to listen to the nauseating comments that everyone has on the issue. there's a stereotype about the vegetarian/vegan ruining everyone's good fun and lecturing everyone, but in my experience it's always been the veggies just eating their food and attempting to have a normal meal while numerous (well-meaning!) (?) friends and acquaintances interrogate them about what they are and aren't eating and why.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link
but i'm not bitter! i'm not bitter!
all of that was supposed to be read using the funny satirical jokey guy voice
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link
ppl who get angry that vegans exist should be executed
― LEGIT (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
basically
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
how about ppl who get angry that meat-eaters exist?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link
Humanity could relieve itself of anger, intolerance, resentment, guilt, associated defense mechanisms and much destructive cravings; while gaining humility, patience, forgiveness, compassion, benevolence, empathy, and equinamity; if only we could all concede contra-causal free will is a delusion.
― Humean froth (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link
everyone should eat their meals alone. it's a secret.
― the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
take it into the dark, cold woods. do what you have to do. then don't talk about it.
― the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evkz3hgHQyM
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
listening to other ppl eat is the worst anyway
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
Meat eaters can go out to the woods and rub the juices all over them, have sex with it, whatever it is that they typically do with the meat. All I ask is that they keep me out of it and stay away from my daughter
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
whoa whoa whoa man how long you been here
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
I don't think that opinion is controversial. but you can take that tone to the dark, cold woods.
― the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
I like karl's plan, but we should just keep some loose meat in the woods.
― the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
bulgogi beef tree hollow
― the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
"loose meat"
― brimstead, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link
karl, I know plenty of people who are still upset by the curly lightbulbs. Trying to imagine how butthurt they'd be by Meat Prohbition, gah. "So hard to get bacon across the border nowadays, because of the lib-nanny state, eleventy!!!11!" Yes, If I were veg*an I'd oppose anti-meat laws too, if only to avoid hearing forever about how much we'd ruined everyone's fun.
― yo no soy marinara sauce (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link