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Thanks a lot, I'm thinking probably a lot of the songs are on the Teenbeat demos CD so maybe I'll recognise them, not sure. I only bid on it cos the seller had the Teen Love 12" for sale as well and figured I'd get them both, then got outbid on the 12"!

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Here we go:

Family Style
Blow Dry
Reality Breakdown
Kiss Ass To Your Peer Group
Fashion Tips For The 80s
Do As You're Told
Too Many Humans
For The Fun of It All
Mindless Little Insects
Happiness Is...

DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey! "Teen Love" and "Cancer!" I'm even on a split LP, "Gift of Noise," with 'em and some others, here:

George Smith, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Cool thanks Mencap!! I do recognise most of those song titles from the demos CD, haven't had a chance to listen to the LP yet cos I was out watching the Wedding Present last night.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Okay this is something that I have been trying to figure out if it is true or not. Did No Trend really destroy the master reels of all their albums therefore making it impossible to re release any of them on cd, and also throwing every last copy of all their albums into the audience at a show???

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 09:02 (fourteen years ago) link

well "tritonian nash" was released on cd, and there's a teenbeat cd of their early stuff.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

and you can release something on cd that you didn't have the analog master for, too - just go from vinyl.

oh and classic.

wangdangsweetpentangle (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

The Teenbeat CD only covers the Teen Love 7" plus a few demos & live. Everything else apart from Tritonian Nash and the unreleased album that came out a couple of years ago seems to be gone for good unless someone bootlegs it.

You can get Too Many Humans & Dozen Dead Roses off Slsk quite easily though ;)

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I own both Tritonian Nash and Teen Love the early months. I've never gotten anything off of Slsk before so I don't know how that works, It would be totally awesome if someone could inform me about how that works.
And has anybody heard that unreleased last album they made(it's out now though right?)? Is it any good?

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
roffle @ Teen Love

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Something great about "Teen Love" is how it's like a parody of '60s car-crash singles (like "Give Us Your Blessings") -- except the doomed kids aren't tragically, hopelessly in love, they're just (true to the band's worldview) average suburban teens going through the dating-ritual motions.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link


sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Too Many Humans is kicking my ass right now. I forgot how good these guys were.

circa1916, Thursday, 6 December 2007 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

Best band ever.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 6 December 2007 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

While-enhanced revelation: The "someone tell me what to do!" bit, the delivery if not the throat-shred-ness, is totally like Weird Al in "Mr Popeil"

andrew m., Saturday, 28 August 2010 02:57 (nine years ago) link

watched/listened to no trend on youtube forever last week. love them. feel so dumb for not buying all their records years ago when you could buy them used for real cheap in philly. now i never see them.

scott seward, Saturday, 28 August 2010 03:23 (nine years ago) link

No Trend leader Jeff was just showing a movie he had made 20 years ago, at the AFI theatre outside w. d.c.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 August 2010 03:33 (nine years ago) link

gr8 band, closest to where i grew up (originated in ashton, md), v proud of them

netizen kane (am0n), Saturday, 28 August 2010 05:30 (nine years ago) link

netizen kane (am0n), Saturday, 28 August 2010 05:32 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

The Teenbeat CD goes for like $100 on Discogs and Amazon or whatever - is that stuff available anywhere else?
I would love to get "Teen Love" and not spend a fortune...

She Got the Shakes, Sunday, 31 March 2013 22:40 (seven years ago) link

it is all out of print and badly in need of reissue, don't know if that will ever happen... I don't have the Teenbeat CD but I do have the Teen Love EP and a decent rip of the 1st LP if u wanna PM me.

the world's most impertinent web designer (sleeve), Monday, 1 April 2013 03:22 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Can't wait. I've probably put a couple hundred views on the Teen Love YouTube link alone.

Walter Galt, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 09:06 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

for posterity

Infostealer.Steamfishi (am0n), Monday, 9 March 2015 20:50 (five years ago) link

omg thank you

lip sync??

I finally scored the 7" of this a few weeks ago

sleeve, Monday, 9 March 2015 20:54 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

God I wish the 12" version of TEEN LOVE would get reissued. I suppose it's a matter of hoping they have a fan at Light in the Attic or some label like that willing to do the legwork. It's just the best song

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Saturday, 5 March 2016 19:56 (four years ago) link

I think I prefer the 7" but that's probably cos it's the version I know best as I bought the teenbeat cd years ago and only know the 12" version from slsk

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 5 March 2016 22:48 (four years ago) link

That Teenbeat CD goes for like a hundred bucks! Do you... have it ripped anywhere?

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Sunday, 6 March 2016 05:50 (four years ago) link

two years pass...


and an LP that seems to be another comp of stuff? not sure what the deal is, but it's official and very very welcome:

sleeve, Sunday, 13 May 2018 03:13 (two years ago) link

I have the Teenbeat CD... didn’t realize it was OOP / valuable.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 13 May 2018 03:18 (two years ago) link

You Deserve Your Life appears to be the demos from the Teenbeat CD.

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:17 (two years ago) link

I knew you would have insight on that, thanks

sleeve, Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:29 (two years ago) link

Woo Hoo! I remember this

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2018 14:08 (two years ago) link

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fingers crossed for Too Many Humans!

sleeve, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:55 (two years ago) link

one year passes...


sleeve, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:01 (four months ago) link

Whoa, good for DC (Drag City). $75 tho??

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:08 (four months ago) link

4LP set but yeah that's a bit steep

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:09 (four months ago) link

OK, here's the full rundown:

This long-needed, utterly essential compilation of No Trend's early years includes their cacophonous first LP, Too Many Humans, BOTH versions of the "Teen Love" EP, plus a CD containing demos and two '83 live shows, plus digital versions of the studio records. Additionally, ALL inserts and ephemera from the original releases and shows that could be collected from the era (and there was a lot) have been recreated to produce a true facsimile of the time. Provided you use your imagination! That's gonna be the hard part. These artifacts defined No Trend's sound and image in '83 and '84, and are responsible for how the band is remembered today: as one of the most toxic, iconoclastic punk bands of the era.

A 42-page booklet was assembled from a variety of sources into a loose oral history, including additional photos, show flyers, contemporaneous fanzine reviews, and interviews with leader Jeff Mentges and No Trend's other surviving founder, Bob Strasser. The box also contains the infamous No Trend "dance" books (presumed lost until recently), as well as several other surprises.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:26 (four months ago) link

ah my mistake, looks like an LP, an EP, a 7", and 2 CDs plus lotsa ephemera

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:29 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

It’s cool the box set is getting press, but I’m gonna have to throw a raised eyebrow at this framing (can’t read the article due to paywall, and too lazy right now to clear my cookies):

I took a deep dive into some of the most horrific music I’ve ever loved and got freaked out by how rational it all sounded

2020 is a disaster and NO TREND saw it all coming

— Chris _ _ Richards (@Chris__Richards) May 21, 2020

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Saturday, 23 May 2020 02:25 (one month ago) link

Yeah I wanna check my snobbery but ngl that was incredibly painful to read

circa1916, Saturday, 23 May 2020 22:16 (one month ago) link

His writing has a bit of purple prose these days:

Is it just the same cheapo thrill we get from dystopian sci-fi? A recognition of our fears, followed by a flutter of superiority and the useless comfort of having caught a glimpse of the writing on the wall? If so, it’s more than that, too. There’s a mystery-friction in No Trend’s music that lifts everything out of the gutter of juvenile self-pity and blasts it into that out-of-body exosphere where real terror begins to feel something like ecstasy.

It’s obviously a sound thing, and the best place to start searching for it is in Mentges’s throat, which always seems like it’s trying to feel as much pain as his brain. The relentless repetition in No Trend’s lyrics — written by Price — forces Mentges do grueling work with his airways, pushing hot units of CO2 through a tightly clenched trachea, over and over and over again. This might be the main reason No Trend doesn’t sound completely cynical. When you’re screaming this hard, your face can’t hold a smirk.

Then there’s the bass. In plenty of punk songs, the bass line juts out first, high and clear in the mix, sending a metaphorical message: Here’s the sound of the underground rising up and asserting itself, here’s the hidden truth finally being revealed. No Trend’s lumpiest bass riffs — played by Bob Strasser, Jack Anderson and sometimes Price — all share that declarative, nothing-to-hide quality, even when they’re splashing around in the melody-defiant muck.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 24 May 2020 05:01 (one month ago) link

It’s like a very ambitious vintage teenage submission.

circa1916, Sunday, 24 May 2020 05:16 (one month ago) link

As a now old guy who saw No Trend then and remembers singer Jeff stopping by my college radio station, not sure I buy this theory ( and I kinda liked No Trend) --

Instead, all of those old punk songs from the ’80s about corporate control, ecological ruin, government malfeasance and the stupid arrogance of American exceptionalism began to sound like prophecies come true. The youthful indignation at the heart of the music was still pumping as hot as ever, but now it sounded wise, too. Maybe hardcore wasn’t a reaction to the times. Maybe it was a warning.

Either way, we should have been paying closer attention to No Trend, a band of outsiders from the bucolic Maryland exurbs who wrote scathing songs about the poison clouds they saw gathering on the horizon.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 24 May 2020 05:41 (one month ago) link

high-speed American punk made famous by Bad Brains, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Hüsker Dü, Die Kreuzen, the Dead Kennedys

Side note, Die Kreuzen rules, but did they slip into the AAA hardcore shorthand checklist recently or is this guy just being this guy.

circa1916, Sunday, 24 May 2020 09:41 (one month ago) link

they've always been on the A-list, speaking as someone who was there The MRR review of tgr debut was literally just Tim Y saying THIS IS FUCKING GREAT over and over

sleeve, Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:42 (one month ago) link

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