― maria, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
andrew: Calling Merzbow an artwank is a value judgement. -- but also an example of art purely for the sake of art -- hence, my use of him as an example of artwankery.
― Jack Cole, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Josh, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― maria, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Josh, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
we need an update
― 丫 power (dyao), Monday, 22 March 2010 10:57 (fourteen years ago) link
this is such a bad phrase
― nakhchivan, Monday, 22 March 2010 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://swifttaxi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/mount-rushmore.jpg
― Fetchboy, Monday, 22 March 2010 11:03 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread is the first hit on google. hah!
― 丫 power (dyao), Monday, 22 March 2010 11:04 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.jozefnagy.com/files/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain_overlay_2.jpg
I used "art-damaged" to describe Su Tissue of The Suburban Lawns once, but my textbook example has got to be The Fibonaccis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFL1LGMUqu0
― I turn it up when I hear the banjo (Dan Peterson), Monday, 22 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
my favourite local garage punk band keep getting called art-damaged in writeups and facebook events or as a subheading on posters. i think it's because they usually let their guitars just feedback in between songs instead of turning away from their amps or turning off their distortion pedals.
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 22 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost lol guess it all comes back to Manson. I always associated the term with No Wave pig-fuck NYC scuzz and came to post my Art-Damaged 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a-V0Iwml3c
― that new wave hippie disco shit (herb albert), Monday, 22 March 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha. I too just put (essentially) this question to Google 10 years later, and well, here I am. I've seen it in old reviews, mostly American ones, it seems. Any further insights, people?
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 23 October 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link
Hah, I'd completely forgotten about this phrase. If memory serves, it was often used to describe post-punk acts.
― pomenitul, Friday, 23 October 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link
I see it being used to describe groups like Dirty Projectors circa 2010:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dirty+projectors+%22art+damaged%22&oq=dirty+projectors+%22art+damaged%22
― o. nate, Friday, 23 October 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
Christgau used the term to refer to Flipper and The Knife, both of whom he liked. I think it's generally used to denote musicians working in populist or "street-level" genres who have taken a left-turn into art rock. As opposed to The Moody Blues or other groups who are seen as prioritizing the art before the rock.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 October 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
My totally unfounded, apocryphal theory is that it was coined to describe Black Flag.
― pomenitul, Friday, 23 October 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
I used "art-damaged" to describe Su Tissue of The Suburban Lawns once, but my textbook example has got to be The Fibonaccis:There are enough random posts on diverse threads from me about how much I adore The Fibonaccis, but here at last is new reason to bestir myself: I noticed yesterday with an eruption of joy that they have begun rereleasing their stuff for streaming + bandcamp! The core discography of the s/t EP, Tumor 7”, and dizzying Civilization And Its Discotheques LP are all up. Hell to the fuck yes!!! http://fibonaccis.com
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
Start with “Somnambulist”, “Maculae”, “Tumor”, “Had It With Girls”, “Crickets” (setting Emily Dickinson), “Leroy” (setting The Bad Seed”), and “Some Men” IMO
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link
Whoa, this is very up my alley. I hear lots of Slapp Happy/Art Bears influence.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
Real Juliette Lewis in Meet the Hollowheads vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9QZ2SxeM9s
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link
yeah i have always considered them to stalk the same turf as art bears (about as far up my alley as you can get) and in the remembrance by dentino on their website now I was delighted to see the AB specifically mentioned.
also delighted to see in the press clippings that they played a show with Pylon in 1982, what a perfect bill
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link
Art Damaged Bears
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
I guess art damaged makes me think of Pere Ubu
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
me too. also the pop group.
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
yeah that's a good one too
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
I saw this band from Indiana once, Dancing Cigarettes. (M@tt, it was after the Longhorn had changed to Zoogie's.) Art damaged AF.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKxRE2PjHsw
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link
oh that's great, never heard of them....i watched the longhorn documentary on amazon prime - was really cool! i'd always heard of those days but not as much detail on the whole story. also just nice to see things about mpls punk that don't revolve entirely around replacements and husker du (don't know if you saw the MN hardcore doc series on public TV but that was great as well)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link
Yes, the Longhorn doc is incredible. I went to the premiere, and the reunion concert that accompanied it. I did see the hardcore doc, that was cool as well (although I wasn't nearly as much a part of that scene.)
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
really enjoyed the longhorn, so many great photos
it was definitely a different focus but it was cool to a narrative that (maybe if you're lucky) mentions the Commandos and Suburbs in passing then goes on to Mats vs Huskers and then punk rock ceased to exist
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
History is written by (and about) the winners, so the focus is on the bands that made it big, but early on it was so cool that we had bands playing power pop, retro-60s Nuggets garage rock, rockabilly, surf, and assorted weirdness... anything went, as long as it wasn't trying to sound mainstream.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link
yeah that reminded me a bit of the stuff i've read about the pre-hardcore/black flag L.A. punk scene too
if i wanted to challops i'd say suicide commandos "make a record" is the best minneapolis rock record over HD and mats haha, not sure i believe that but it's a good opinion
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
It totally is as far as I'm concerned! It's as important (or more) to me as the first Ramones, I think there's more stylistic variation in the songwriting and cleverness in the lyrics. Sorry Ma is up there for me, I saw I think the Mats' second show they ever did because of the early Oarfolk buzz about them, and was floored. That's an album full of incredible hooks.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link