Great band. Weakerthans also great.
― Marty Innerlogic, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Awesome band. I like the old stuff just fine but their last one, Potemkin City Limits, came outta nowhere for me. Really great record.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 29 July 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks to Concrete Blonde and the Northern Pikes for not being punk bands so nobody will know where we stole our riffs from.
― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
one time i was 1q2 i awalkted into the record shop discman aznd i was like proppa gan die i was embarreaseed when he told me it wasnt called like that
― usic, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
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Excellent.But you survived?
― Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Any of you pleasant enough to help an old lady? Recommendations similar to Propagandhi?
Promise I will reciprocate with recos beyond Crass
― Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I was never an all-the-time Propagandhi fan or anything but what I always liked about them was the fact it was really hard to get a handle on them. They had (have?) this incredibly clean sound that makes everything sound like metal riffs, but no way would you ever mistake them for a metal band. And their lyrics are unbeatably sardonic and self-reflexive/self-qualifying but there is absolutely no question of them not being serious about the stuff they talk about. In both these respects they are a lot like Dead Kennedys, but they don't sound like the Dead Kennedys. The more I type the more I sound like a superfan! But I'm not. I just like some of their tunes and the way they roll generally
― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
DKs -' Moon over marin' was an 'asswuppa'
soz - listening to Discharge. me head's gone
― Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
ska sucks.
― ian, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 03:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Embarrassed myself earlier with my delayed Career Suicide thread.
Equally cringy about my Propagandhi thread esp. when some coont damned me with faint praise, faint praise.
I've improved my brain by delving back and buying 'Potemkin City Limits' which was released in 1963.It's great. More on the metal tip than 'Today's Empires.....' but still.Excellent.
Listen kids. I'm not a trendy kid anymore. And never was.
I'm hungry for this
― Fer Ark, Friday, 12 September 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck religion
― Chelvis, Friday, 12 September 2008 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
band is just really great. every album enjoyable. I would rather be preached at than bored.
― J0hn D., Saturday, 13 September 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link
This is one band I've always wanted to check out but never have. I have no problem with preachy punk, I fucking love Crass & Conflict etc. I think the thing that put me off with these guys is the similarity with NOFX-ish 90s melodi-core but I know there's more to them than that.
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Colonel. Start off with 'Today's Empires...'It's melodic but not in that shitty way you reference.I'm talking seriously good melodies and playing.The lyrics aren't too bad but they're secondary to me.It's all about the musicTo me there's not a duff track on the album. Those tracks that are weaker are elevated by at least one musical section in the song. There's some seriously good hardcore in the mix too
Their questionable name put me off- for years. Stupid me.
I bought 'Potemkin City Limits' second . At first it was too 'metal', but it's a real grower.
― Fer Ark, Saturday, 13 September 2008 07:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Any Propogandhi fans care to reco me some more?
Something is telling me it could be a bridge too far?
― Fer Ark, Saturday, 13 September 2008 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4PrnYAHUxQ
i used to love these dues in college and i love them again
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
best band ever in the history of ever
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
best band in the history of ever's new record is streaming on facebook (?) (!)
https://www.facebook.com/Propagandhi/app_178091127385
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
they're playing dc in a few weeks, i'm stoked
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 October 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
new record is very good but i find myself wanting for grounding melodic moments (see "potemkin city limits" and "human(e) meat" from the last record)
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
i'm listening to potemkin city limits now and its hitting me how much this is like a prog-punk precursor to some of fucked up's more recent stuff. is that a connection people a lot of other people have made?
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link
I don't know Fucked Up but Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got
― tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah i hadn't paid a ton of attention to it before, but i'm really digging it right now. the layers of melody and shit. great.
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link
Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got
otm
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
Nothing Fucked Up's done can touch that record imo
― Simon H., Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
Well I mentioned it cause listening last night I kept thinking of David Comes To Life, particularly all the really gorgeous layers done at such a high energy level.
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
i guess the reason i wouldn't necessarily make that connection is bc of how much later propagandhi is about straight up thrash metal, which there aren't many traces of in the proggy fucked up stuff (which is still very much about hardcore)
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
full confession i was p blazed and listening to 'a speculative fiction' when this comparison occurred to me, and i'd been shotgunning the early records for the last year or so til putting PCL on for the first time in years the other night, so i think the contrast was just in search of an anchor.
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
i think it's a neat connection to make tho! i just had never thought of that before
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
Starting to think Supporting Caste is every bit as good as Potemkin City Limits. So many amazing riffs and moments.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
i like it sliiightly better. think it's their best record honestly even though you know less talk more rock 'til death
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
Nardwuar just played an 18 year old interview he did with them on his radio show. Should be up for podcast later.
― everything, Friday, 31 July 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link
Goddamn, this is some powerful stuff.
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Friday, 6 May 2016 00:42 (eight years ago) link
New record Victory Lap is out and sounding very promising (not to mention *very* different from Failed States).
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 29 September 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
"Single moms to the front, we came here to rock!"
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 29 September 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
Album of the Week and a nice writeup at Stereogum https://www.stereogum.com/1963996/album-of-the-week-propagandhi-victory-lap/franchises/album-of-the-week/
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link
new album is among their best. love that these guys are still pushing their sound forward e.g. “lower order”
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 October 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link
yeah it would feel like a transitional album except that they're always in transition these days towards some never-complete ideal, which fits with the increasingly tortured, conflicted lyrical content
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 1 October 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
i don’t have a kid but the last song on this record makes me *weep*
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
it hasn't supplanted "Without Love" as most emotionally bruising Propagandhi song but it's mighty close
also "A Lower Order" is probably their best animal rights song
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
wild in a catalog that includes "purina hall of fame" and "nailing descartes to the wall" but i agree
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 12:06 (six years ago) link
After 15 years I saw them live for the first time. They were incredible and I'm gonna stop myself there. Setlist was very similar to this one:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/propagandhi/2017/london-music-hall-london-on-canada-2be3ec7e.html
except with the additions of "Adventures in Zoochosis"(!) and "The Banger's Embrace." I could have used a few more Potemkin/Caste tunes but beyond that it was a pretty inspired set.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link
man. that setlist is perfect
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link
Jealous. No Chicago tour dates.
― Jeff, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link
my shitty high school hardcore band covered "Fuck the Border" so that was particularly delightful, and of course "Back to the Motor League" is one of the greatest songs ever written and it was great to be reminded
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link
aaand now I'm thinking that Victory Lap might be their best overall, pound for pound. I can't seem to tire of it.
― Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
yep
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
the "what one artist do you like the most that ilm doesn't seem to rate at all" thread made me look this thread up and now I'm excited to check out Victory Lap
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link
potemkin city limits is my favorite
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link
every Prop album is good but PCL really was a brilliant expansion /reinvention, even though I think Caste and Victory Lap best it
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:10 (six years ago) link
https://audioboom.com/posts/7805948-episode-313-todd-kowalski-propagandhi-i-spy
fun chat btwn Damian and Todd from propaganfhi/i-spy. only just started but already worth it for the fun trivia, such as his first punk show being gangrene/goo goo dolls in 1988
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 04:21 (three years ago) link