― deej....., Friday, 3 March 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
hate the outsider buzz all you want, but know how to separate that from the music itself. being mad at funk carioca because of its current hype would be a little like writing off os mutantes just because beck made'em trendy for about 10 minutes.
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm not throwing the baby out with the bath water, but ... yeah, there is some good shit. i'm just tired of hearing certain tracks. and like i said ... it seems like "Popzuda Rock N Roll" is fast becoming the "Evenflow"/"Smells Like Teen Spirit" of this genre.
the best tracks in this genre i've heard ... i've usually heard once or twice at a friend's house.
here's to being overly idealistic ... *cheers*
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
(actually, that's not precise either. edu K is making funk-oriented tracks, but dude also comes from outside the scene, though he did team up w/ deize tigrona for the track. i'm not saying that makes him less "real," but at the same time i'm not surprised that an outsider will have more success in the north; he knows how to market to other outsiders. i'm sure we'll be hearing a lot more about bonde do role - non-black (from the photos i've seen), non-rio kids who, according to jace clayton [who remixed one of their tunes] grew up on a ton of tigerbeatish experimental shit - for the simple fact that their outlook is a lot closer to a northern hipster zeitgeist.)
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 3 March 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 3 March 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 3 March 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 3 March 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 3 March 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Actually, I would say that Diplo is in fact a major part of the movement at this point. He has many fans in Rio (my friend saw a young favela boy show Diplo his "Wesley" and "Pentz" tattoos on his arms, respectively) and collaborates and DJs extensively there. I know he's not really "authentic" and is seen by some here as an exoticist dabbler, but I think Brazil has a more inclusionary and less motive suspicious scene than what we experience here in the US.
Also, having been to Rio, I have certainly heard Cariocas refer to the music as "Baile Funk" many times.
― i'm from hollywood, Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link
who is doing this?
― deej....., Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― i'm from hollywood, Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:53 (eighteen years ago) link
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― esoteric >>> rakim, Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 4 March 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link
the techno:rock::hiphop:funkcarioca comment stung a bit, but it would have stung more if i was actually saying that i think funk carioca is shit. didn't say that, but i appreciate the contrast, and that's exactly why i wouldn't say "fuck funk carioca ... that shit's lame." never said that.
i am tired of certain tracks. very tired. and from what i've heard ... it seems to be a really specific format, and the tracks i am tired of most closely follow that format. electro beat, sample, verse vocals ... go!
you know i respect your opinion, and the opinion of others who like this genre, but i'm just frankly sick of hearing Diplo mix after Diplo mix being played at every club. i would feel the same if it were Gabriel Ananda or Gui Boratto.
so ... no hating here. just tired of seeing "Diplo Remix" after nearly every record I see or hear. although he is definately talented. i'm just oversaturated with it right now.
no hating here!
funk carioca? classic or dud ... eh ... too early to say. i think it's been overhyped (i.e. grime) in the states. we'll see.
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 4 March 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 4 March 2006 04:48 (eighteen years ago) link
honestly i'm shocked you're hearing it out at all; i've never heard funk played anywhere aside from specific funk performances (and those were at, uh, sonar).
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link
believe it or not, SF is even accumulating a techno scene.
the times they are a changin'
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
seeing it outside of white boy indie scenester nights was personally refreshing, and reinvigorating. much better to hear something that would get played by DJ Marlboro next to a Sean Paul remix than a fucking bullshit Bloc Party track.
totally not hating.
also, Philip, did you know that San Francisco has 2 reggaeton radio stations? they play funk about half of the time. And ... that shit is all over the Mission. Thankfully, and with good mix tapes for cheap.
like i said, not hating ... not trying to say i'm OG and this is my shit either, but not hating.
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link
http://ilx.thehold.net/thread.php?msgid=14490#unread
so many threads...must get new Essay Records vol. 2 comp that Tim F. touted over at the sandbox
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
lmao
― and what (ooo), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link
beat diaspora http://beatdiaspora.blogspot.com/
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 4 January 2007 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link
now that the well has begun to run dry all those hipsters are beginning to talk about is this Kuduro thing, which basically sounds the same to me from the tiny bit i've heard thus far
hipstertronica...
― PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Is there a term of art for the curiously loping percussion loop used on most tracks? The one that sounds like trolls playing complex skip-rope games underground?
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/release/98549
http://www.discogs.com/release/47708
― PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 5 January 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
It's like the Amen break of funk.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link
BTW, I'm about 85% sure that the first song to sample Amen was 2 Live Crew's "Feel Alright Ya'll", to tie it all together.
― PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link
The older I get, the more bored I get of this sort of posturing. If there's a trend of a certain kind of dance music that happens to get embraced by hipsters and played at all the parties, and it also happens to be fun to dance to, I say STFU and dance. That's why it was made, and I don't think Brazilian djs care whether white kids in Brooklyn are enjoying their music out of context, even if they all have big fat smug grins on their faces.
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link
With your daft African poptechnoAnd that wine you call bull's blood
― urge to check sandbox... must resist (fandango), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link
CLEARLY you ain't never parited w/ me...
― PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link
http://beatdiaspora.blogspot.com/
Some interesting postings
― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link
That second Rio Baile Funk comp is still one of my top 5 discs this year. People should get on it.
― Tim F, Monday, 12 November 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link
That's been on my 'to buy' list. Need to finally get it.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.redbullfunkse.com.br/home/
http://www.beatdiaspora.com/?p=375#more-375
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
my friend saw a young favela boy show Diplo his "Wesley" and "Pentz" tattoos on his arms, respectively
― old chisel (haitch), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/the-manic-joyous-sound-of-brazils-funk-carioca
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 February 2020 00:56 (four years ago) link