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they'd still be classic.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 15 November 2002 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Is "Hot Chocolate Boy" really about Ian Svenonious?
― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 16 November 2002 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 17 November 2002 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Zeno, Thursday, 10 May 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― kevin mulligan, Friday, 11 May 2007 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― mike a, Friday, 11 May 2007 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― the table is the table, Friday, 11 May 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― kevin mulligan, Friday, 11 May 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― kevin mulligan, Friday, 11 May 2007 03:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― factcheckr, Friday, 11 May 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link
oh. that one jens lekman song samples that one song off black candy.
― poortheatre, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link
anyone heard any of these mixes?
with titles like "behind the iron curtain: soviet era rock and pop" and "u.s. pop underground: wimpy/power pop 1976-1980" i'm pretty intrigued. there's a bunch of girl group and soul ones, and even "regional underground 12" singles 2000-2004: hip-hop/ghetto tech/bass/go-go/crunk/house".
i have some questions about whether or not he pulls this off, but i have heard only good things from friends. i can't find any tracklists for the life of me, so it's hard to tell
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Have seen and wanted, but so far evaded the experience of. Would blap.
― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I bought like 4 or 5 from him a few months ago and I think they are fab, the disco one is really really good.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
you spent $50 on calvin johnson mixtapes
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
sleeve saving the economy, 5 mixtapes at a time
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
btw if you can tracklists would be great
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
well i guess there's this: http://pascalscountrysounds.blogspot.com/2008/08/behind-iron-curtain-mixtape-cassette.html
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
they were $5 each (xpost)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Very overrated - as this thread indeed demonstrates - but I have a brief track called 'Redhead Walking' that I actually find quite compulsive, or maybe I mean compelling.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 8 January 2009 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link
wait did someone just say that beat happening is overrated?
please post elsewhere, if you are indeed not rickrolling about. i can't argue with an opinion, but why the hell did you even click on this thread dude?
imo, beat happening>>>>>>>>>>>any other american band of the last 30 years
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 8 January 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
but why the hell did you even click on this thread dude?― psychgawsple
― psychgawsple
Thread is not called "Beat Happening: C! C! C! C! C!". It has room for D. Anyway, they're not overrated, cuz not that many people rate em, but I like Beat Happening. Mostly for Jamboree and Dreamy. "Nancy Sin", "Red Head Walking", "Hot Chocolate Boy", "Dreamy", "Indian Summer", "This Many Boyfriends", etc.
― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
pinefox derby
(xpost) yea i handled that poorly but it is just counterproductive to talk shit about such an innocent, quirky band. they've done nothing but grow on me year after year, so any discouragement that could lead someone to just not trying in the first place has to be overruled
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 8 January 2009 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw them open for Fugazi on the Repeater tour. Fucking awful!
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Occasionally "innocent" but if there is one thing that's definitively underrated, it's the occasional bad-assed-ness of Beat Happening. They get dirty, Crampsy, noisy, dark, evil.
― nabisco, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
this is true, maybe it's a pitfall to define them by their innocence
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link
also lol at them opening for fugazi. didn't they open for a bunch of ill-suited bands?
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Black Flag too
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
saw 'em with Alice n Chains
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
The idea of Beat Haps opening for Fugazi, Flag and phucking AIC make me think they were the punkest band of ever.
― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i think there's a story in Our Band Could Be Your Life about Rollins losing his mind over how wimpy Beat Happening was ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
choice deadpan stage quote from Calvin at above Alice gig:"We're not like other bands here tonight. (awkward pause) We're punk rock.(awkward pause) Fuck You."
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
it almost becomes performance art at that point-- i've always loved beat happening's ability to piss off aggro-punk and grunge kids
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 8 January 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i've found calvin a bit gross and pointless for years but BH from jamboree thru to you turn me on were really fantastic, jamboree blew my mind when i first got it (i wonder if i still have that tape?). you turn me on was the only album they released after i got into them and it was so exciting hearing their new stuff on the radio. tiger trap is a monster tune.
also calvin gets major points for having the most unlikely vocal style for a "twee" band
― Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Thursday, 8 January 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link
however the next band to cover indian summer gets kicked in the jewels
― Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Thursday, 8 January 2009 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
what bands other than Luna do it?
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ yes this is actually getting really annoying. a lot of modern twee bands do it
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 8 January 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
manhattan love suicides
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 8 January 2009 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link
"i can't argue with an opinion, but why the hell did you even click on this thread dude?imo, beat happening>>>>>>>>>>>any other american band of the last 30 years"
You think only your view is allowed on the thread? Thread is about Beat Happening and, in theory, range of views on them. In practice, almost everyone on the thread is super-positive.
"any discouragement that could lead someone to just not trying in the first place has to be overruled" = anyone who disagrees with you must not post.
Believe me, there is not much danger that any view I express could affect what music the kids want to listen to.
I listened to 'Redhead Walking' again after posting yesterday and realized I didn't like it that much after all.
Best thing I'm aware of the band doing: 'Cry For A Shadow', purely because it generated a magnificent cover by The Shapiros. I've not heard a good version by BH themselves.
They're probably not totally worthless, and have probably had some positive cultural effects overall and encouraged the creativity of others; but in themselves I certainly think they're very overrated and don't sound very nice.
― the pinefox, Friday, 9 January 2009 10:10 (fifteen years ago) link
your opinions would be considerably more palatable if you weren't such a complete douche about expressing them
― Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ yup, anyway:
Wear a pearl necklace if you think of itI'll run the red river but not drink of it
― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ favorite
― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably mine too actually. I spent ages trying to find out where that song came from (a friend put it on a mix tape for me). Tried in vain to find it on CD then got a job where I had internet and bought the 7" off Ebay, might have been my first ever Ebay purchase thinking about it. Either that or the Avengers LP.
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 9 January 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
hey day from YTMO. TUNE!
― andrew m., Friday, 9 January 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
ferget the review (spin?) that said on YTMO beat happening discovered weed. ha! so true.
― andrew m., Friday, 9 January 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
beat happening came into my life at the exact same time i was teaching myself to play and got my first 4track and all that business. gave me real 'i can do this!' feelings. so always and forever C for me.
― andrew m., Friday, 9 January 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Not really sure why, but Black Candy is my favorite.
― FUTURE HOOS: stronger better faster hooser (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 9 January 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Could be because it's awesome?
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Friday, 9 January 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
You Turn Me On is their best album. Don't care if it's because of weed or not. Jamboree comes really close though.
Calvin always knew what he was doing re: performances wrt Calvin offstage vs. on stage. He's proudly a weirdo, but always plays/played a different kinda weirdo on stage.
I'm glad the band were written about in Az's book, as there were info tidbits I didn't previously know, but the implicit reason for cheerleading them in the chapter was UGH
best post Beat Happening is actually in Land Of The Loops records via Heather Lewis's guest vocals. "Patience" = winner
― 909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 9 January 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
You think only your view is allowed on the thread? Thread is about Beat Happening and, in theory, range of views on them.
no, i just feel like it takes a pretty bored/angry person to not only decide to click on a thread for a band he knows he doesn't like, but also to go to the trouble of posting his ill-formed opinions about said band. it's not like they're on the cover of magazines these days, rubbing their immense popularity in your face, etc. i realize that the thread is C OR D but i also think the point of beat happening is that it's sorta supposed to sound like a dud if you just give it a forced or cursory listen.
anyway, just checked out 'shield around the k' last night and it was actually a pretty good watch, if only because of the incredible performance footage of calvin/bh (having a significant portion including rose melberg and tiger trap didn't hurt either).
it also pointed out the obvious re: calvin's networking skills, OP magazine as a way of exporting the northwest indie scene to places like dc, etc. i guess he even had ian mackaye work the doors at the first international pop underground fest in olympia.
oh and dean wareham also covered indian summer. he covered a lot of stuff, though
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Friday, 9 January 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
eugenius and (more recently) the manhattan love suicides have covered it too
― Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Monday, 12 January 2009 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link
'ill-formed opinions' = opinions you don't share
― the pinefox, Monday, 12 January 2009 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link
do you genuinely believe what you just wrote?
― Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Monday, 12 January 2009 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i think there are legit reasons why one wouldn't like this band but saying they "don't sound very nice" does indeed seem like an underdeveloped thought.
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Monday, 12 January 2009 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link
haha you already mentioned MLS, i r lacking in reading skills
― Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Monday, 12 January 2009 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link
ye someone else also mentioned luna before i said something about dean wareham
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Monday, 12 January 2009 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link
classic
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 12 January 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Oops, I said so already upthread. Still, then.
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 12 January 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Spectrum also covered Indian Summer
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Monday, 12 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I happened to see Mr. Johnson play an extremely strange unamplified solo appearance in Eugene. This would have been post-BH, maybe 2004. 'Twas him and Tiger Saw and somebody else.
You know how sometimes a musician will drag out an intro by alternating two chords for a while and talking over it? Calvin did this, but instead of doing it for 30 seconds did it for like 15 minutes, telling a rambling and not especially coherent story about driving to Montana to buy some used shirts. And it was weirdly riveting because we're sitting there thinking "Surely he's going to begin the song now." "Okay, maybe now." "Now? Nope. How about now?"
I can't say I have listened to all the BH there is but my wife loves them. So, um, classic.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, 12 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i have nearly reversed my opinion of this band in the six(!) years since I posted above. I was 18, gimme a break. I only like a few of the longer songs on "you turn me on" at this point. maybe a scattered handful of earlier tracks.
― ian, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link
― tylerw, Thursday, January 8, 2009
Not sure if this is exactly right. Henry was from DC and buddies with Ian Mackaye who knew Calvin who had relatives in the DC area. I think he knew what Beat Happening was like and deliberately chose them to open. I met Calvin back then in DC when I was writing for OP and he came by the U. of Maryland college radio station. We used to talk about dc go-go records. I like Calvin and some Beat Happening but not all.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link
here are those mixtape tracklists btw: http://yarnlazer.com/calvintapes/
the disco ones do look damn interesting
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Sunday, 18 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
from here: http://www.furious.com/perfect/beathappening.html"But Beat Happening was also hated by their underground peers. For instance, when the band opened for Black Flag at the Tropicana, Henry Rollins famously heckled Calvin Johnson, including grabbing Calvin's crotch mid-song. "There seemed to be a lot of animosity directed towards us," Calvin says."
― tylerw, Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
at least sonic youth and beck like them...
― Zeno, Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
They make a lot of rulesThey tell a lot of liesIf we don't wanna, we won't behaveAnd they can't make us 'cause we can't be made
― i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 14 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
“By disrupting the status quo concept that music must be polished, practiced, and public, Beat Happening helped crack open a world for new voices usher in a wave of cloying, obnoxious mediocrity that continues unabated to this very day”
worst band, now and forever
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 9 December 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
surprised Calvin hasn't been #metoo'd tbh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 December 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
That too
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 9 December 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
Reading this thread, LOL that there was ever any question about Rollins hating beat happening... getting pissed off about a band that he perceived as wimpy/weak/meek, yeah gosh that doesn't sound like rollins at all, lol
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 9 December 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
most of my favourite Beat Happening songs are Heather songs anyway tbh
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Monday, 2 May 2022 00:21 (two years ago) link
I've had a CD-R of Jamboree for a long time, but just got a cheap CD copy in the mail. There's probably a thread for this: gap between your three favourite songs and the rest of the album. I love "Indian Summer," "Cat Walk," and "Drive Car Girl" so much, and the rest of the album does nothing for me.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 May 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link
I've had Dreamy and You Turn Me On waiting on my computer for a while, burned them for a long car trip today. All three songs I'll save are sung by Heather Lewis: "Noise," "Sleepy Head," and (epic drone, love it) "Godsend."
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 March 2023 02:45 (one year ago) link
oh c'mon "Pinebox Derby" rules
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Sunday, 5 March 2023 03:08 (one year ago) link
Nothing else made much of an impression on me, beyond that I often found Calvin Johnson's vocals annoying (which on the three songs I posted about nine months ago, I totally love--I can't explain that).
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 March 2023 03:44 (one year ago) link
Man Tiger Trap is an all timer
― a (waterface), Sunday, 5 March 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link
All killer, no filler, tbh. (YTMO, that is. Some of Dreamy tests my patience, which seems an improbable thing to be typing given it's the later LP that drones on endlessly lol)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 6 March 2023 13:04 (one year ago) link
Burned their expanded debut...My favourites (evenly split this time between Heather and Calvin): "Our Secret," "What's Important," "1, 2, 3," "Look Around." The first, beyond sounding great, is the perfect launch for such a strange folk/post-punk band: the title, and "That's why we're running away..."
― clemenza, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
listened to this audio doc about the making of Jamboree the other day, some good insight into the record and the relationships between the band members (both then and now)https://lifeoftherecord.com/#/beat-happening/
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 9 March 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link