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red rum, red rum.

Geoff, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Its pretty amazing that although the whole film is very brightly lit, its still creepy as hell. Whats up with that ghost in the wierd bunny outfit!?

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But Mark, I can't think of a single horror story related to plague pits. Please enlighten me.

DG, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I was hoping someone else wd have an answer!! I don't know of any Brit movies abt it. There was an episode of Doomwatch, in the late60s/early 70s. The film abt cannibals on the underground: they are also disease-infested, tho not specifically plague. Quatermass and the Pit sorta skirts round the idea, before haring off after martians (same as I wd, but still). There is a short story by Clive Barker, in the Books of Blood (book one, I think), which is absolutely precisely exactly abt it, and is probably what got me obsessing abt it in the first place.

mark s, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Shining - classic. Second scariest movie ever made (first = Suspiria.)

Plague movies, hmmm... Wot abt 'Plague of Zombies' (1966 Hammer flick) - years since I've seen it, can't remember much abt it, poss. plague zombiefication involved tho'. And don't recall an Indian burial ground flick before 'Poltergeist'.

Andrew L, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the shining is classic.

sundar subramanian, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Classic because i think it was Kubricks response to his blocks. Plus it is one of a very few movies i can stand Nicholson in .

anthony, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Shining sucks, it's not even scary.

Ally, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ally, do you think ANY horror movies are scary?

Andrew L, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I love this topic. There is one frightening movie that I have seen not too long ago and that was the Prophecy. Has anyone seen it? Christopher Walken was the actor... Very chilling! Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ally, do you think ANY horror movies are scary

No, I'm unfortunately very jaded. My mom forced me to watch The Exorcist when I was like 4, what can I say?

Ally, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jack can do no wrong.

Neither can Krzysztof Penderecki (gotta stick up fer fellow Polacks with a name unpronounceable by Anglophones!)

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
The miniseries version is running on Sci-Fi. OMG, this is awful.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Stephen King loved it because it was blindly faithful to the book. Meh.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

stephen king sure doesn't have a good track record when it comes to having anything to do with tv mini-serieseseses.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link

isn't steven weber in this one?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Not only is he in it, but he tries to do a Jack Nicholson impression every once in a while!

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

It occurs to me that the guys from Wings are popular in King series - the Stand, the Shining, the winter storm one. Is Tony Shalhoub going to be in the next one?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link

what about the pretty lady?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't remember that much about Wings.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

king always loves movies when they stick close to his books. he hated "the shining" so he remade it into a version that he felt was closer. "pet sematary" was a piece of shit too but he loved it because it followed his (admittedly pretty good) novel almost to the letter.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

stephen king sure doesn't have a good track record when it comes to having anything to do with tv mini-serieseseses.

Wha? I don't know about you, but Salem's Lot scared the shit out of me when I first saw it.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't know about you, but i never saw it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a Stephen King-approved Carrie TV movie. That was TERRIBLE.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

can't wait for the "stand by me" mini-series with jonathan lipnicki, jonathan taylor thomas, brian austin green and the guy who played jonathan in buffy!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Watched the last thirty minutes of the Shining miniseries. Yep, now I remember why I hated it in '97.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I dropped it to watch some Dawson's Creek reruns. Jen was mega-hot the last season.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 29 April 2004 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Stephen King isn't very scary so there

Frank Swedehead, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Its pretty amazing that although the whole film is very brightly lit, its still creepy as hell. Whats up with that ghost in the wierd bunny outfit!?

-- Ehh, I rewatched this a few nights ago. When Shelley's running through the Overlook at the end of the film there's this sudden snap-zoom and all of a sudden a fat man in a bear-suit giving a bloody blow-job fills the frame. It lasts for about four seconds, and it's creepy as shit. I was with watching this with Jon William in Rochester a few years ago and I was stoned as could be and thought I was hallucinating the scene. No dice, though.

Jeremy Coombs (Atila the Honeybun), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

"pet sematary" was a piece of shit too but he loved it because it followed his (admittedly pretty good) novel almost to the letter.

One good scene (the funeral argument) does not a good book make! I found the whole thing boring and stupid.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

no one buries pets in a graveyard thats just stupid, mosta the time they are put into stew

OldHickBill, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Scatman Crothers!

http://www.mechaex.com/wmd/JAZZ.jpg

Hero Worship (Barima), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a Scatman bad a bid up a boo buddah, oh thats scatman john

ScatmanJohnFanclub Hostess, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i watched the movie and thought it was really bad as i was reading the book i got really scared! its so descriptive ...

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked how the book put you in the kid's head more than Kubrick's film, but the end was (in typical King fashion) pretty weak.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Made it through the first 1:50 before I started nodding off tonight.

Compared to the book, now, the only thing I miss is any sort of balance to Jack - even the minor moments of being a loving/caring human being. Everything else Kubrick changed or eliminated seem right on, though.

Seriously one of the most chilling movies right up through meeting Grady in the ballroom/bathroom - that kills all the momentum and drama (poss. I just know what's going to happen). The disassociation caused by the overacting music and framing create tension even in innocuous scenes, but it doesn't work when Kubrick tries to be more traditional, you just start noticing that Shelley Duvall has huge fucking eyes.

The naked black women in Scatman Crothers' bachelor pad are almost as great as the masked biker men in The Royal Tenenbaums.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't scare me the first time I saw it, but it gets worse and worse on every viewing, and last time I tried (couple of months ago, on a tuesday afternoon) I had to stop halfway through. For me, it's scary cos having somebody be angry with you is scary, and...Jack's angry with me.

And yeah, the aniaml-outfit-fellatio thing is really really freaky. In the book, it turns out the guy he's sucking off is the owner of the hotel. The owner of the hotel is called Horace Derwent. He's got the same (not particularly common) surname as me. So I shat myself when I read that.

JimD (JimD), Sunday, 9 May 2004 10:07 (nineteen years ago) link

"And yeah, the aniaml-outfit-fellatio thing is really really freaky. In the book, it turns out the guy he's sucking off is the owner of the hotel"

yeah, i think it actually works better in the movie because its so inexplicable.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

"pet sematary" was a piece of shit too but he loved it because it followed his (admittedly pretty good) novel almost to the letter.
One good scene (the funeral argument) does not a good book make! I found the whole thing boring and stupid.

Well, I just disagree. I liked it because it was just a really creepy update of the monkey's paw. the parts with dead children and the nightime journey to the indian burial ground were really effective to me.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

ANYWAY, miloauckerman OTM.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
http://waxy.org/random/video/shining_redux.mov

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

That's really good.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the sounds in the shining.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks madchen, made my day :)

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Stet deserves the credit, really.

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, he didn't make the thing, but he sent it to me.

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

:-)

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

that is fucking funny... it'd be even better with a better VO guy.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

"In a world of terror...isn't it nice to know that family still matters?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought Alex Garland's Men had a Shining feel to it at times.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 June 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Jesus, just when I thought the Rough Trade compendium (which I got for Xmas and love) would be the last word on spendy, over-reaching art books exploring this movie, along comes Taschen with a $1,500 three-volume slab:

https://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/film/all/66983/facts.stanley_kubricks_the_shining.htm

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 January 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

Yeah. Fuck off with that, Taschen.

circa1916, Sunday, 1 January 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

A book shouldn't cost more than a couch, really

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 January 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link

A coffee table book shouldn't cost a month's rent, people will buy it though.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 1 January 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link

It's plausible that they release a regular-edition that's only the cost of two bottles of Dom, as they did with the Tati set

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 January 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link

Da fuq
Will torrent the shit out of that

calstars, Sunday, 1 January 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

I guess I can get behind Taschen fleecing moneyed dorks and douchebags to fund their high quality/low cost line, but yeah, hope some reasonable soul PDF’s it.

Also I love The Shining, but the kinda white glove treatment it’s gotten in recent years is still somewhat lol to me.

circa1916, Sunday, 1 January 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

same tbh. it's a good film! why it's everybody's accessible HIGH CINEMA puzzlebox seems more a function of nostalgia than anything else.

this comes with a "box of ephemera" at least, which is difficult to torrent.

The bar for high cinema ain't too high of late (not a dig at The Shining; very much a dig at low cinema c. 2023)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 2 January 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Only $1500

calstars, Thursday, 23 March 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link

Saw some other article that confirmed there will be a cheap version produced sometime in the future. Because what my bookshelf needs is a fifth book devoted to the film.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

(And no versions of the novel.)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

any chapters about the phooey moon landing conspiracy I wonder - the truth is out there

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Pretty cool and fairly persuasive thread here

[Thread] I’ve noticed something odd happening in Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining. True, there’s plenty of odd things going on in The Shining, but this is really weird.

🧵 1/50 pic.twitter.com/TWcgiDruaP

— Filippo Ulivieri (@nessuno2001) May 31, 2023

1/50

I can't

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 June 2023 13:57 (ten months ago) link

lol I know but you kind of have to see all the instances of the thing he's talking about to think it's more than a couple of odd moments.

I think I had kind of noticed that before, I’m not sure if it’s Kubrick’s request or Nicholson’s schtick, but for me it acts like a subliminal “amirite?” or “well what do you think we’re gonna do now?”

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:19 (ten months ago) link

I can see it I guess but who cares, this is not a big deal

calstars, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:24 (ten months ago) link

The only one I remember noticing as being out of the ordinary (i.e. he's not looking at Lloyd in the Gold Room) is the one when he's storming out of the room after telling Wendy he's not letting her fuck up his life anymore

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:29 (ten months ago) link

god what an insufferable dork

budo jeru, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:38 (ten months ago) link

Interesting; I think it works as a particularly filmic subliminal indicator that the character is weird, estranged from his surroundings, and does things both the other characters in the film and "normal" characters from other films don't do.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:42 (ten months ago) link

I appreciate the discussions above re: the casting of Nicholson and the difficulty of accepting him as "normal" at the outset. Even in the scene in the car on the way up, he radiates menace. Michael Keaton would have been good for that part, but probably equally unbelievable as descending into madness. It's hard to think of anyone who would have filled this role perfectly.

I still think this was one of Nicholson's best performances, if not the best.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:46 (ten months ago) link

That thread could've been 20 posts. Please post less content.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:48 (ten months ago) link

otm. that's the insufferable part. it's fine to notice details or to want to talk about movies on the internet

budo jeru, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:10 (ten months ago) link

That thread could've been 20 posts. Please post less content.

What? It was fewer than 20, genius

calstars, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:15 (ten months ago) link

It's hard to think of anyone who would have filled this role perfectly.

the answer to this in most contexts is michael shannon

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:45 (ten months ago) link

-1

calstars, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:50 (ten months ago) link

Interesting; I think it works as a particularly filmic subliminal indicator that the character is weird, estranged from his surroundings, and does things both the other characters in the film and "normal" characters from other films don't do.

― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:42

Could this be Rob Ager? His ‘subliminal’ analyses of both The Shining and Full Metal Jacket dig up a lot of hidden meaning in Kubrick’s work, well beyond the typical Room 237 speculation.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:29 (ten months ago) link

He’s “Collative Learning” on YouTube. Sadly he’s taken the majority of his most thorough analysis videos to his private website but there’s quite a bit of incidental work left in public. He deals a lot with the other disconcerting aspects of this film such as the impossible set design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sUIxXCCFWw

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:37 (ten months ago) link

50 is… more than 20

michel goindry (wins), Friday, 2 June 2023 10:25 (ten months ago) link

Lol omg

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 June 2023 10:32 (ten months ago) link

a true poster (me) wd have noted (🧵 1/1) that you dont need to watch any of the THE SHINING (1980) when you can just view this gif

In films it works in the same way. It breaks the viewer’s so-called suspension of disbelief: we look at the fiction as if we are observing real events, until the actor breaks such illusion by looking directly at us.

🧵 20/50 pic.twitter.com/g7zl6AoiVY

— Filippo Ulivieri (@nessuno2001) May 31, 2023

mark s, Friday, 2 June 2023 14:10 (ten months ago) link

what if i said things that are obvious to everyone, but in a smug and breathless tone

budo jeru, Friday, 2 June 2023 14:43 (ten months ago) link

^ new board descrip pls mods

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 June 2023 14:55 (ten months ago) link

"you dont need to watch any of the THE SHINING (1980) when you can just view this gif"

That's tweet 20, genius

xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 June 2023 15:00 (ten months ago) link

🧵 1/1, bonehead

mark s, Friday, 2 June 2023 15:04 (ten months ago) link

20/50 morans

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 2 June 2023 15:07 (ten months ago) link

what if i said things that are obvious to everyone, but in a smug and breathless tone


Yes and also state the obvious as worthy of note

calstars, Friday, 2 June 2023 15:23 (ten months ago) link

I appreciate the discussions above re: the casting of Nicholson and the difficulty of accepting him as "normal" at the outset. Even in the scene in the car on the way up, he radiates menace.

I grew up watching this alongside a dad who thought Jack Torrance was a super cool character and who took maybe a few too many parenting cues from Nicholson's performance (that car trip was basically every car trip from my childhood) so it took me a long, long time to even recognize that Jack is itching to cast off his thin veneer of stability and sanity right from the start.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 June 2023 16:20 (ten months ago) link

Ku brick-n-hour mess age

Ward Fowler, Friday, 2 June 2023 16:38 (ten months ago) link

five months pass...

always thought this was a theremin

Wendy Carlos - The Shining Demo Score

Carlos demonstrates the Circon controller, which she created in 1978 to produce a demo score for the 1980 film
⚡️sound on⚡️ pic.twitter.com/Ux6YCe7Wqa

— psychotronica (@psychotronica_) November 22, 2023

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 17:59 (four months ago) link


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