― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― DG, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
ned: you think picard is tougher than picard. what. the. fuck. did you see wrath of khan? did you see that shit? he fucking kicked khan's fucking vinyl-chested ass. 'oh, yeah, you have genesis, khan but you don't have me. if you want me, you're going to have to come down here. you're GOING to HAVE to COME DOWN HERE!!!@#@@!$#'. you can say ANYTHING ELSE about kirk vs. picard, picard is smarter and more civil and professional or whatever the fuck, but nobody in their right fucking mind would say that he's tougher than motherfucking kirk. i am actually literally angry about this, so i need to calm down now. christ, i'm such a trekkie.
― ethan, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought it was Riker who had the twin. ;-)
that riker transporter twin episode is some stupid shit though.
original series: chekov...maybe, but that's stretching it. he kicks ass in the movies, he's just sort of useless on the show. but the original cast (chekov being a second series addition) is flawless.
next generation: RIKER RIKER RIKER, troi, that doctor who replaced crusher for one year, yar, data (come on, admit it. he's a super-advanced andriod and he can't understand common phrases? he thinks a 'lemon' is a literal lemon for god's sake. i'm sure the writers kissed each other for how fucking cute that was. anyway mudd's women were way smarter). and WESLEY. geordie would get on my nerves if he were played by anyone but le var burton, but he's a childhood icon and can therefore do no wrong.
deep space nine: the only memorable character besides the captain (who is cool) is quark the ferengi (who is also cool). but the rest aren't even fleshed-out enough to annoy me. wait, no, the short-haired chick with the ridges on her nose aggravates the piss out of me. and the doctor, god.
voyager: it has an indian. and an asian guy. and a black vulcan. and the captain is a woman. only as annoying as that new ghostbusters cartoon where one of the ghostbusters was in a wheelchair. like, what the hell?
evidence that kirk is the best captain: all series after that have had kirk ripoffs that are nowhere as good as kirk because they are not as cool as the godly shatner. like riker, or that really forgettable womanizer guy from voyager. i mean, what the hell, don't you just want to punch riker in the face? does anyone not want to? anyone?
― Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
All-time favorite episode is "Charlie X," where the Enterprise picks up some teenaged human waif from a planet, who then runs around the ship melting off the faces through telekinesis (?) of various crew members whenever he's teased or horny. What teenager couldn't identify with that?
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― ethan, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
I remembered TNG being great when I was 12, but I watched a few of them more recently and they were AWFUL, even the later ones. I think I might have quite liked Deep Space Nine later on, when they started having season-long story arcs, but I never saw enough of them to make sense of what was going on.
― John Davey, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― gareth, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
How come most of the crew are American yet NONE of them are chronically obese? (except Scotty who's - ahem - ""Scottish"")
In the 60s it was a bizarre mix of US military 'might is right' fascism and Hippy-dippy, 'why can't all nations hold hands?' idealism (though still managing to be sexist ~ Uhura the Captains secretary and Yoaman Rand (is that right) the Captains bit of [onboard] fluff. AND THATS IT SISTERS!)
It should have ended there as it ran out of ideas and people stopped watching it. But OH NO, they had to bring it back in the 80s with over-long, plodding bore-a-thon 'Next Generation' episodes that tapped into the touchy-feely / inner-child / New-Age nonsense that was on the go at the time. I mean - Counsellor Troi = WHY? She even sits on the bridge next to the Captain!! the message is in the 25th Century a bloody social worker is one of the most important jobs on a space ship.
But it was all so clinical and corperate and soul-less, advocating Pro-conformity and how you should be a good citizen. And too much sanctimonious liberal finger-wagging for my liking.
And it starred Whoopi Goldberg.
And how come all the baddies end up as the Federation's (UGH!) freind, taking tokenistic jobs as Navigators etc?
And why was it always so fucking BORING?
― D*A*V*I*D*M, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― dave q, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Another Star Trek I had over the other incarnations -- BETTER BACKGROUND MUSIC! Esp. that duh-dum-duh-dum-DUH-DUM-duh-dum theme whenever Kirk's ass was in deep ship.
On the other hand, Troi's mother was AWESOME.
And the original ST's music was Varese-influenced, hey? Hmmmm ... never knew that! Maybe I should go over to that "Who Opened Your Ears" thread in ILM and change an answer or two of mine :-)
Troi's mom was cooler than Troi, not more attractive! Aigh, my eyes!
― JM, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
troi: not attractive.
crusher: nuh-uh.
troi's mom: uh.
that guy who was troi's mom's butler or something and was the guy who played lurch in the addams family movies: mrowr.
question: who liked first contact? it was like a next generation episode, only like, cool. plus, supercool supporting cast with alfre woodard and the farmer guy from babe.
someone start a star wars thread so i can bitch about how much that sucks except for empire strikes back.
― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― james e l, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
hey i just remembered something else i liked in next generation, although it's from that bastard movie where kirk dies (falling off a walkway! the fuck? he's saved the universe like two hundred times and he falls of a walkway and dies? fuck). um anyway, i liked when data said 'shit'.
― anthony, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― jel --, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andrew L, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Andrew L has not mentioned his great expertness in this area, for some reason. I know about it because I very briefly worked under him on a Star Trek magazine!
― Martin Skidmore, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Enterprise - trip is annoying but that vulcan's fit.
― s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
first series: like what i haf seen but haven't watched many episodes.
Next generation: only reached goodeness after the Borg came in the picture.
Deep space nine: deeply flawed (a space station in the middle of nowhere and they had to make a war to make it interesting so it had problems just like next generation) though I did watch most of it.
Voyager: the absolute fucking classic. They are stranded and haf to go back but they explore the other side of the quadrant which means all sorts of storylines, (this aspect is exploited to the full) and if that isn't enough then here are the words that settle this argument.
SEVEN OF NINE.
The woman of my dreams (Troi is an ugly witch compared to my seven). She's like Data (both trying to gain 'humanity') but she's a woman. And what a woman. Then the doctor who i think is rilly rilly funny too.
I was pissed off that my brother missed taping two episodes and I made him aware of that to say the least(only six were taped, I had to spend all night watching them on the day i got back from canada and it was time well spent though seven is breaking my heart trying to 'get' chakotay).
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link
(Fun fact: The student services building at my school is called the William Shatner building & even has the Shatner Ballroom. Classic!)
― Miss Laura, Thursday, 22 August 2002 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 08:49 (seventeen years ago) link
DO YOU SEE!!?
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link
that episode is astonishing on many levels
― A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:43 (four months ago) link
I think there's ire enough to spread evenly among all of the streaming services who feel that customers should pay $10.99/mo. for the 1-2 non-garbage original series they offer.
neither of those services have produced either of these series
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 20:04 (four months ago) link
I'd be lying if I said I didn't occasionally (frequently?) half-ass a post in eager anticipation of a patented sic correction.'Beverly's Gothic Travails' is a thoroughly wackadoo Trek installment.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:26 (four months ago) link
omfg:
The swimming lesson that wasn't. Our foster pibble Ginger is perfect afternoon company. @ASPCA @WagsandWalks #AdoptDontShop pic.twitter.com/yDWiXbCSXS— Patrick Stewart (@SirPatStew) March 9, 2017
― Garbo Pond (Leee), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 22:29 (four months ago) link
a patented sic correction
I asked a sincere question, shrug emoji
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:16 (four months ago) link
ok a sincere answer: I'm mad at cbs for switching from netflix which i subscribe to to amazon which i don't; less selfishly, as OL says i am mad at the fragmentation of streaming services, which completely destroys the whole point of them.
― The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 11 July 2019 10:41 (four months ago) link
that is in no way the point of them! but it's not really important for this thread to lurch down that road
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 11 July 2019 10:45 (four months ago) link
Yeah in terms of 'point' it's like that thing where television programs basically exist to fill time between commercials.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:50 (four months ago) link
Bit spoilery about guest stars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbXy0f0aCN0
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 20 July 2019 21:03 (four months ago) link
One is not surprising, the other... not exactly leftfield, but pretty close (centerfield).
Curious about the Vulcan ninjas though!
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Saturday, 20 July 2019 21:58 (four months ago) link
not gonna lie, i’m psyched
― A man offers an inverted bottle of water to the Techno Viking. (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 20 July 2019 22:32 (four months ago) link
i just watched all of discovery, which other than some ploddingly dubious klingon-scheming scenes and a slightly overextended season 2 finale, was hella dope
so i am down for this. despite what people say about abramsification and greater proximity to star wars fitey fite of late, it seems like they now know how to make short-form seasons play to their strengths.
and gawd if there's one thing i don't miss from the enterprise- or pre-enterprise-era shows (not sure how far back it goes) it's the CORNINESS, glad someone scared the nerds out of thinking that was ever a good idea
― j., Sunday, 21 July 2019 00:41 (four months ago) link
Trailer makes it look a little plot-heavy - like something they just plugged Picard into... but I’m still curious
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 21 July 2019 05:50 (four months ago) link
why was Data in a drawer?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 July 2019 08:27 (four months ago) link
there was no space in the garage
― A man offers an inverted bottle of water to the Techno Viking. (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 21 July 2019 08:31 (four months ago) link
Tribute to Agent 13 on Get Smart, maybe?
― Ask Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 July 2019 14:14 (four months ago) link
God knows I watched more GS than TNG
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 July 2019 15:51 (four months ago) link
can't wait for this. no i'm not going to subscribe to cbs all access, this will be pirateland for me.
― akm, Sunday, 21 July 2019 16:06 (four months ago) link
I'm cautiously optimistic. The main positive about this so far is that fucking Nemesis won't be the last story featuring Picard and co any more. And it can't possibly be worse than that.
― Duane Barry, Sunday, 21 July 2019 17:57 (four months ago) link
The real answer, and lol this is probably the first time someone bothered to write this ever, but NEMESIS SPOILER:
That isn't Data, but a prototype android. Data dies in Nemesis.
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Sunday, 21 July 2019 18:00 (four months ago) link
Oops, that is Data.
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Sunday, 21 July 2019 18:38 (four months ago) link
Do you think Data will still have the skunk hair from the TNG finale? They cleverly didn't show the top of his head.
I see that Bee decks still exist in the 24rd century. In TNG they used Kem decks, probably because they looked sci-fi-y.
― adam the (abanana), Sunday, 21 July 2019 20:57 (four months ago) link
Ive seen Nemesis and I dont recall Data dying in it, which says everything about how engaged I was with the plot at the time I guess, lol.
Did a bit of a squee when 7 popped up in trailer.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 July 2019 03:17 (four months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GOumoL4MIQ
I had Nemesis and First Contact confused, Data sacrificing his human skin in the latter. Zero memory of the Nemesis plot aside from Romulans hellbent on revenge.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 03:30 (four months ago) link
Spoiler alert on the second worst Star Trek movie I guess
my worst is generations, followed by nemesis, what's yours?
― adam the (abanana), Monday, 22 July 2019 06:01 (four months ago) link
The Undiscovered Country followed by Nemesis
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 06:08 (four months ago) link
Oops, the Undiscovered Country is great, I mean Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is the worst
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 06:09 (four months ago) link
lmao at this early tom hardy eccentricity from the nemesis wiki
Tom Hardy made his only appearance in the Star Trek franchise as Praetor Shinzon, the leader of the Romulan people. Baird and Berman had been looking for someone who resembled Patrick Stewart but aged about 25 years younger; at one point they had considered Jude Law. Baird specifically wanted an unknown actor, and Hardy auditioned by tape after Stewart asked Hardy's agent if they thought any of their clients were suitable for the role. Hardy was filming Simon: An English Legionnaire in Morocco at the time,[4] and decided against using the requested piece for the audition. Instead he came into the possession of a full script for Nemesis and used a different part of the script, and filmed it partly nude.[5] He was flown to Los Angeles to do a screen test with Stewart, and Hardy later described his performance there as "appalling".
― A man offers an inverted bottle of water to the Techno Viking. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 July 2019 10:03 (four months ago) link
Is no one else unnerved by the notion of Picard keeping Data in a suitcase under his bed all these years
― My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 July 2019 11:47 (four months ago) link
where else would one keep one's positronic fleshlight
― A man offers an inverted bottle of water to the Techno Viking. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 July 2019 11:57 (four months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-EjWU_KtTY
― My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:11 (four months ago) link
i regret this
― A man offers an inverted bottle of water to the Techno Viking. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:14 (four months ago) link
This is why you don't throw a gauntlet down in my presence, u see.
― My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:01 (four months ago) link
Disco, Lower Decks cartoon, and Picard summary from SDCC: https://io9.gizmodo.com/there-was-almost-too-much-news-at-the-star-trek-comic-c-1836392106
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 22 July 2019 21:42 (four months ago) link
Lower Decks sounds a little like Red Shirts: The Animated Series.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 22:03 (four months ago) link
Trailer breakdown, if you're inclined:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/breaking-down-the-familiar-faces-and-new-reveals-of-the-1836608419
Mild spoiler but you won't believe how they have a 'so-and-so days since an accident' workplace humor style joke in here.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 July 2019 22:08 (four months ago) link
just finished the dvd box of TOS and am watching the little extras on the last disk
didn't know this about Scotty: Landed on Juno Beach on D-Day as a member of the Royal Canadian Artillery... He was hit by four bullets to the leg, his middle finger of his right hand was shot off, and a bullet struck his chest. His life was saved when that hit a silver cigarette case which had been given to him by his brother.
meanwhile, george takai was in an american internment camp.
― koogs, Sunday, 28 July 2019 18:56 (four months ago) link
Doohan’s son posted a nice thread about this on the anniversary this year.
Artillery Lt. Doohan was one of 14,000 Canadian soldiers who stormed the beach. He once said they were more afraid of drowning than the actual battle. He led his men across an anti-tank mine field. Fortunately none exploded as the men weren’t heavy enough to activate them... pic.twitter.com/rOki0O0cuQ— Chris Doohan (@ChrisDoohan) June 6, 2019
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 29 July 2019 03:49 (four months ago) link
Some have asked if Dad visited Normandy after #DDay. He made a trip back in 1984...a very emotional day. pic.twitter.com/v4N2IwA7ow— Chris Doohan (@ChrisDoohan) June 7, 2019
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 29 July 2019 03:50 (four months ago) link
I just rewatched Star Trek VI, and utterly forgot the arc of Kim Cattrall's role.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 July 2019 03:55 (four months ago) link
Picard's getting most of the hype right now, but I'm also really looking forward to Lower Decks!
― Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 18:40 (four months ago) link
on risa:
https://www.startrek.com/news/star-trek-risa-conversation-daniel-ortberg-colette-arrand
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:27 (three months ago) link