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1st titles of 2008, for reference:

WTA Gold Coast: LI Na d. Victoria AZARENKA 4-6 6-3 6-4
WTA Auckland: Lindsay DAVENPORT d. Aravane REZAÏ 6-2 6-2

ATP Doha: Andy MURRAY d. Stanislas Wawrinka 6-4 4-6 6-2
ATP Adelaide: Michaël LLODRA d. Jarkko NIEMINEN 6-3 6-4
ATP Chennai: Mikhail YOUZHNY d. Rafael NADAL 6-0 6-1

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

go davenport!!

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

Week 2/2008, with all eyes on the AO anyway:

WTA Sydney: Justine HENIN d. Svetlana KUZNETSOVA 4-6 6-2 6-4
WTA Hobart: Eleni DANIILIDOU walk-over vs Vera ZVONAREVA

ATP Sydney: Dmitry TURSUNOV d. Chris GUCCIONE 7-6(3) 7-6(4)
ATP Auckland: Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER d. Juan Carlos FERRERO 7-6(4) 7-5

anatol_merklich, Monday, 14 January 2008 07:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Watching Sharapova vs Obziler in the Israel-Russia Fed Cup tie now, and wow is the crowd noisy! Rapturous cheering on every serve fault by Maria, tauntingly SCREAMING along with her on every shot etc. Umpire totally unable to silence them haha!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 2 February 2008 12:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

fuck what channel? we need to sign up for the tennis channle, i can't be missing stuff like this

Surmounter, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

I just go to and check whether anything is available ("Live Sports" tab -> "Tennis" button). Note: playing stuff may in general entail installing various Chinese tv apps (sopcast, tvants, uusee...). That particular tie, however, is on some Israeli sports station showing through Windows Media Player or I guess any other .wmv-showing app.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

How useful it is if you're not using Windows I've no idea. Also, quality unsurprisingly varies wildly; this Israeli broadcast is pretty decent.

Pe'er was double-breadsticked by the Shazbot right now, making it 2-1 to Russia. Elsewhere, France vs China will be decided by the doubles.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Murray knocks out Federer in the first round of the Dubai tournament.

nice one you unpatriotic little shit.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 17:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

he was wearing a saltire cap when he was playing, which doesn't seem desperately unpatriotic to me.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Federer was too busy not thinking about yesterday

Matt, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

i was only referring to his disinclination to play davis cup.
and i was kidding about that anyway - i care no more about it than he does.

still, 'unpatriotic' was probably a poor choice of word. well done young man!

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

It was more the "little shit" that you coupled it with, to be fair.

Anyway, yes, two out of three won against Federer now.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

God knows why he'd want to play the Davis Cup. Who else is going to be on the team? I wouldn't want to be winning matches and carrying a team full of useless people in a tournament that has long since lost its cachet and relevance except in the eyes of really, really old tennis commentators.

edwardo, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

x-post take umbrage wherever you like it was all meant in jest, apart from the congratulatory bit. internet does not do deadpan.

But I genuinely like Murray. I also agree with the above post. I can't be arsed to even watch Davis Cup so I can't blame him if he's rather not play in it.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Andy Murray wins something

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

He has won about 4-5 career titles before...but yes, its his biggest win

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is his third title of 2008 alone. by far the biggest though! wish i could've seen it, sounds like a fantastic match, and it's good to see him encroaching on THE TRIVALRY even if i do like nole more (lol the way fed's playing, nadal/djokovic/murray is the real trivalry).

on the WTA, dinara safina has won two big titles in a row! she is the only woman out there who is stepping up to fill the void at the top. jankovic is going to be world no 1 next week, that is embarrassing. the WTA is probably in the worst shape i've ever witnessed.

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

also i didn't know this thread existed!

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh I know he's won stuff before but not a big tourney. It was a good match. He looks so much fitter and stronger than he was a year or 2 ago.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 23:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nadal will be #1 on 18/8. Can't quite believe Fed's slump post-SW19; loss to Simon, near-loss to Ginepri, loss to Karlovic. Thought he might have at least made a fight of the #1 ranking (his form was fine for 18 of 19 matches in Paris, Halle and London); I had this romantic notion of the baton being passed as Fed beat Nadal at Flushing Meadow (Nadal's points surge taking him past the repeating champ despite the loss). Fed will be lucky to get out of the sixteens in NYC. Does Beijing have any ranking points?

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 August 2008 00:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, it does. i think a few less than a masters event for the dudes, a few more than a tier ii for the chicas.

GOD that feels ridiculous looking at it! thinking about how much the olympics mean to, like, track&fielders and rowers and the like, and in tennis it's like...a TIER II.

anyway in other news, THIS is the 15-year-old saviour of the WTA who in the past month has taken sets from both serena and sweta, michelle larcher de brito:

she makes sharapova sound like a trappist. seriously i can't believe she hasn't been asked to stop that bullshit yet, or like MURDERED ON COURT by a deafened opponent. that's not a grunt, that's a scream with a sustain pedal on. i'm not sure i'm going to be able to actually watch any of her matches.

oh and in other news silliams has pissed on her phone at the beach:
sometimes you just long for the days before celebrities discovered how to work the internet themselves :(

(also note "enuf boring stuff" LIKE TENNIS)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

you know, i used to watch all the nonslams cuz my stepdad taped them. then i didn't speak to him anymore. i wish i knew when they were on -- i think i'm gonna have to get on top of that!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

they're on every week! televised or not is another qn

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

exactly, that's the thing.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Blake was asked about the partisan crowd before today's final and reminded everyone he's half English :)

BBC giving it "Blake is just happy to be here" bollocks - dude isn't here to make the numbers up. I think I'll be pro-Blake today, as he does things like this

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 13:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well done Andy!

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bit of a dull game lit up by a few stunning forehands. Shoddy line calls all day, none of which helped Blake. Well done to Murray on being the first Brit in yonks to win Queen's, which I'm sure won't lead to even more Wimbledon hype.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

I predict Murray will cave under the pressure and be out by round 3.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

he doesn't seem to be the sort to cave under pressure. but a friendly first-week draw would certainly be nice...

didn't watch the Queen's, but watched the Edgbaston SFs (Li d. Sharapova and Rybarikova d. Mirza) and a bit of the final today - Magdalena Rybarikova is a real discovery, such a classic grass-court game! Slices and volleys and good serving! she looks weirdly like Samantha Morton, too. i remember seeing a photo of her from her junior days when she lost some random final - she was posing w/the trophy and seriously looked like she was about to go bowling for columbine. so it was lucky for Edgbaston that she won today!

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

in other news, larcher de screamo gets a wildcard to wimbledon. FUN.

Roz, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

The weird transatlantification of Murray's pan loaf accent has meant I can't actually hear what he's saying - it's just a series of droning noises that makes my ears stop working.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

pan loaf accent

is that how you talk with your mouth full of bread?

Beth Parker, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

It was once more expensive and regarded as more fashionable than the then more common plain loaf. Hence, to speak with a pan loafy voice is to speak in a posh or affected manner.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

How on earth does Murray speak with an affected accent?! He just mumbles.

I found that picture of Rybarikova looking like she's ready to go bowling for Columbine after losing the Wimbledon juniors final!

Fortunately today was more to her liking.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

!!! interesting result for sure. fed dropped out?

Lamp, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah...Djokovic was lucky to be in the final at all, he had to come back from 5-7, 2-5 down and save 5 match points against Florent Serra (!) in the 2nd round.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...


French tennis player banned for betting found dead

Natural causes apparently.

RIP Mathieu

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fuckin' hell. (Though my initial shock was because I thought you meant Paul-Henri Mathieu...)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh right, sorry! To avoid confusion to others: it's Mathieu Montcourt.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Lex's favourite choker, Richard Gasquet avoids getting suspended after testing positive for coke.

The full findings are here (pdf): pretty lol-worthy just for the kissing descriptions and finding out that he was allegedly "contaminated" at a Bob Sinclar event.

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

hingis should've found a french waiter of her own to blame. or maybe just one of the 9494439 atp players she'd slept with.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

her ban ends in january right? think she'll come back?

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

wtf federer?! 5-2 up in the final set, somehow fails to serve it out twice and then DFs on match point in the tie-break to give Tsonga the win.

all credit to Jo-W for stepping it up right at the end, but still... that was some breakdown.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

5-1 up in the third! :o

at the same time I was watching Flavia Pennetta try to choke away her match - she beat Venus in the last round, and winning this would mean a top 10 debut. 6 match points came and went, double faults on at least two of them, but her opponent was Hantuchova so it was OK in the end.

btw, Serena's post-Wimbledon record = QF loss in Stanford to Stosur and 3R loss in Cincinnati to Bammer, who now owns a 2-0 record over her. The Real Number 1!

am endeavouring to pretend the horrific Clijsters comeback isn't happening. never liked her.

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

obv didn't see the Fed match but am guessing that J-W just started going even more for broke than usual when down 1-5, and everything began going in.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

yep and suddenly firing aces as well when he hadn't been able to get a good first serve in since like the end of the first set. meanwhile fed's serve just went to pieces after that.

also yay dinara fighting back a break in both sets to beat kimmy. would've hated it if she lost this one.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

best recent press conference = Marat defending baby sis by telling the press to "go fuck themselves" <3

this whole presser was fucking classic.

Q. Now that you stopped, what about coaching her?

MARAT SAFIN: Oh, you want me to hang myself? (laughter.)

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

<3 <3 <3

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wow, Pennetta will be Italy's FIRST EVER top 10 woman! Both Schiavone and, before her, Farina Elia peaked at 11.

lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, Andy Murray becomes the first man not named Roger or Rafa to hold a spot in the top two since forever. More importantly, Del Potro beat Roddick.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Funny seeing Bouchard lose all semblence of rationality in her attacks on Maria. At least the other WTA players tried to mix in the insults - although from the start it's always been "she isn't a nice person anyway", judgements of character losing all pretence of being about rules and regulations.

It's perfectly fine to not like her, and also to disagree with how she handles herself, then and now, but not to pretend those arguments have anything to do with how the governing organs should treat her. CAS, having the final, legal say, definitively established she was not an intentional cheater, and so she's served a period of punishment for negligence.

abcfsk, Thursday, 27 April 2017 06:58 (three months ago) Permalink

"intention" was always going to be the loophole the minute the ITF produced its report but there are two kinds of intention going on here.

intention to break the rules - no, she failed to read her emails, this was always clear

but the moral criticism has never been for negligence, it's been for taking a shady drug in the first place even if it was legal, and the ITF's evidence clearly demonstrates that she intended to use it as a PED (upping the dosage before important matches) and did so in an underhand way (failing to declare it at any point)

it's been very heartening to see just how many players, including Bouchard, have been against the WTA's disgraceful rolling out of the red carpet to have her back. The lengths official bodies are going to to avoid stating the reason she was out, as if it was some injury or something.

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 April 2017 07:42 (three months ago) Permalink

WTA seem to have just delegated responsibility on where/when MS can play to the tournament directors? It would be a simple thing to say "no wildcards for playing returning from drug bans". Maybe they think they're protecting the $15k ITF events she should rightfully be playing from a media circus. I've also seen the comment "this is just what happens to post-ban players in other sports". Is this true? Does a sprinter automatically find a spot in their national squad / on the blocks for Grand Prix events without first proving themselves elsewhere? I guess it's not the same. Tyson Gay could just post a single 9.99 at some college track meet and be back in the elite two weeks later.

Also: she hasn't been stripped of any tournament titles she won during the period when she was on PEDs, right?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 27 April 2017 09:36 (three months ago) Permalink

She was technically only on illegal PEDs for one tournament, which she didn't win. The decade of meldonium usage previous to that is in the grey area of "technically legal, ethically dubious".

There's been talk of a rule limiting WCs for players returning from doping bans but it'll take a while to institute regardless. The WTA has pretty much welcomed her back with open arms in terms of their own statements, bending the rules to allow her to enter Stüttgart specifically (her ban didn't end until after the event began) and encouragement of the hype - if it weren't for several players and a handful of journalists actually speaking up, you could well believe she'd just been away because of injury. There's no recognition that being banned for a doping violation should actually have an effect on a player's reputation and how she's spoken about.

In terms of tennis players coming back from doping bans, I think only Troicki got a couple of ATP WCs through being Djokovic's mate, which weren't that popular, but he mostly had to rebuild his ranking through Challengers. Karatantcheva got absolutely nothing after her two-year ban.

We'll see what the FFT do about an RG WC next month...they've talked tough so far and the French players have been among Sharapova's more prominent critics.

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 April 2017 11:39 (three months ago) Permalink

hasn't she been on it basically as long as shes been on tour? don't think she won any event since the date it was announced as a banned substance xp word

johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 April 2017 11:40 (three months ago) Permalink

She can't complain about her draw in Stuttgart, all players in her section are/were either massively out of form or out of their depth on the surface, or both. Vinci/Makarova/Kontaveit is a cakewalk on paper, and the alternative opponents would have been so as well (2017 really could have, should have been Muguruza's year.)

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Friday, 28 April 2017 07:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Went to the cinema with Mladenovic a set and 2 games down. What a result!

cerealbar, Saturday, 29 April 2017 17:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Fucking heroine, that Kiki

lex pretend, Saturday, 29 April 2017 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

What happened to Maria's much-vaunted three-set record? Not that visible stamina dip in the decider.

lex pretend, Saturday, 29 April 2017 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Simon d. Monfils 0-6, 6-0, 7-6(0)

A bagel, a reverse bagel, a tiebreak bagel. A perfect scoreline. I'm so privileged to see this day.

lex pretend, Monday, 8 May 2017 14:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Marvellous. I see Monfils was 3-0 up in the decider, so 6-0 0-6 6-0 was a possibility for a while (he had MPs serving at 5-3). I trust he missed one by letting a lob drop over his shoulder and then pirouetting to hit a leftie BH while facing the wrong way. Or something.

Michael Jones, Monday, 8 May 2017 14:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Sharapova getting dragged on the court by the exact same girls who dragged her off it. Delicious. Bouchard's press conferences have been gems of late.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 06:43 (two months ago) Permalink

It feels a little weird to root for Bouchard but HELL YEAH BOUCHARD

lag∞n (DJP), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 13:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I also see that Suarez-Navarro beat Woz

lag∞n (DJP), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 13:49 (two months ago) Permalink

excepting davis cup, novak has not won a match in straight sets in a whiiile

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 14:44 (two months ago) Permalink

there were some incred matches today & cilic/zverev 3d set rn is a battle, also stan/paire going 3

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 21:20 (two months ago) Permalink

great win by paire

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 21:41 (two months ago) Permalink

rafa/novak tomorrow

novak hasn't dropped a set to rafa since 2014, though still is (probably correctly) roughly a 2/1 or 2.5/1 betting favorite

johnny crunch, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:38 (two months ago) Permalink

rafa is the fav i phrased that poorly

johnny crunch, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:42 (two months ago) Permalink

First ATP top 100 player to come out as gay: Brian Vahaly

I remember him from some mid-00s draws but not much beyond.

Gambill hasn't technically come out I guess?

lex pretend, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:58 (two months ago) Permalink

thiem rn hits the most/cleanest winners on clay possibly? dude is impressve

johnny crunch, Friday, 12 May 2017 21:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Vahaly beat Gonzalez, Ferrero and Robredo at Indian Wells in 2003 - which is a hell of a run - only to lose to... VINCE SPADEA in the quarters.

Also beat Michael Chang in a Challenger in Tazana, CA the previous year, but Chang was just about to slip out of top 100 for the last time.

Michael Jones, Friday, 12 May 2017 21:35 (two months ago) Permalink

murray out 2 and 4 to fognini @ roma

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:38 (two months ago) Permalink

is anyone good at tennis anymore

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:40 (two months ago) Permalink


PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:41 (two months ago) Permalink

i just looked up fognini because it feels like he's been on tour for 20 years and i was surprised to discover that he's actually younger than murray

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:43 (two months ago) Permalink

It's kind of remarkable how Murray and Djokovic are slumping simultaneously. If I had to guess I'd say it stems from Djokovic taking his foot off the pedal after holding all 4, plus his personal life issues; and that Murray weirdly thrived on being the fourth wheel of the Big Four and hasn't adjusted, or can't adjust, to being the nominal leader.

FFT coming through with that moral guardianship of the sport and DENYING Sharapova even a qualifying WC for RG! I cackled when they read out 14-year-old unranked Yasmine Mansouri's name in the QWCs and not Sharapova's.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 10:11 (two months ago) Permalink

thiem/nadal again tmorrow

plus delpo/novak & zverev/milos are v juicy

johnny crunch, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:17 (two months ago) Permalink

3rd time's a charm for thiem, hope they play again @ the french

johnny crunch, Friday, 19 May 2017 16:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Zverev! Youngest Masters finalist in 10 years (since Djokovic won Miami 2007)

lex pretend, Saturday, 20 May 2017 15:30 (two months ago) Permalink

novak is destroying thiem

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:33 (two months ago) Permalink

supposing this continues & he beats zverev 2morrow, this is a nice run to become a def factor @ roland garros, whereas like a week ago it wasnt so clear

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Great to have a new, young champion at this level in the week the entire ATP top five goes 30something.

Michael Jones, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:04 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

#MercedesCup 2R @TommyHaas13 (39) vs @RogerFederer (35) is oldest @ATPWorldTour match since 1982 Vina del Mar R. Cano (30) d. L. Ayala (49).

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:13 (one month ago) Permalink

how is Hass only 39

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:45 (one month ago) Permalink

wtf *Haas

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:46 (one month ago) Permalink

of course haas wins

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:10 (one month ago) Permalink

lmao murray/raonic/stan all upset @ 1st rd queens club

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Watched all three (thanks BBC2!) - not exactly classics I have to say. Only Deliciano looked in any decent nick (his tennis was alright too, hur hur)

katstevens, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

lol my friends mom calls him that also, id love to see him make a deep run @ wimbledon

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Same! He did a couple of really lovely volleys against Stan (who looked pretty sluggish).

katstevens, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 08:50 (one month ago) Permalink

Any excuse to roll out my photo of Felle Fel from London 2012...

(I hope he wins this)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 09:06 (one month ago) Permalink

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