The _Beverly Hills 90210_ thread

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Oh yes! The one with the bad perm? She was nerdy. Wanted to go to an ivey league college but was poor or something?

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 8 June 2006 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Andrea, she was called. I loved Beverly Hills 90210. Loved it.

And I remember there's was a minor scandal when it was found out that the actor who played her was 30 or something in real life.

As opposed to Luke Perry, the oldest "teenager" not in the cast of Grease?

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 8 June 2006 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link

The first season of 90210 is out on DVD (in the UK) in September.


Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 8 June 2006 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, according to IMDb the actress who played Andrea was Gabrielle Carteris, and she was born in 1961, which makes her 4 years older than even Luke Perry.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 8 June 2006 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link

remember the mtv awards during which brenda/shanon was booed off stage?

I don't want to jinx myself.

Uh, you were in BH90210!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 8 June 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did people hate Brenda? I don't think there was anything like that going on in here.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but Luke Perry *looked* older. Like the Fonz next to Jason Priestley's Richie Cunningham, or something.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I just bought the I Hate Brenda paperback (co-authored by Darby of Ben is Dead) at a library booksale for 20 cents.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes I still learn for a Dylan to take me to visit me late at night or take me to Baja... his best line was "at the risk of sounding glib Kell, that's why I drink" which took many plays to decipher (slurred in his husky whisper) during one of his "alcoholic" stages.
I love all the messed up girls: Val, Christine Elise's character who nearly burned down the Walsh's house and was supposedly JP's lover in real life... oh and all the sexual tension between Brandon and his male buddies

spectra (spectra), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

what's Tori Spelling up to these days?

spectra (spectra), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Christine Elise at a tiny film festival in Michigan a couple of years ago -- she was really nice and dressed sorta butch.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Tori got divorced. While still married, she got together with the actor of one of the Z-grade films (or series?) she was *acting* in as well. Apparently her dad's (or was it mum?) was angry and they might disown her cause she ridiculed her mum on a show she does? I'm not too sure, I was never a big fan of her. Oh yeah, apparently she doesn't accept any money from daddy as she prefers to live a Simpler Life. heh.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

so notorious is funny, though not nearly as sick and wrong as fat actress.

sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The actress who plays Lane on Gilmore Girls is like 32.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Brenda/Shannen Doherty was the best part of 90210; I couldn't watch it after she left. fucking Kelly Taylor.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Christine Elise at a tiny film festival in Michigan a couple of years ago -- she was really nice and dressed sorta butch.

She was in a semi-recent episode of Law And Order too - playing a messed up drug dealer.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember one episode where the blonde kid shot himself in the face or something. I was 13. I got all emotional and shit haha.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

It was hilarious how JOE E. TATA got into the main credits around Season Seven, once they'd purged the show of every other "adult" character.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

U4ia!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

And Brenda became intolerable after Kelly and Dylan started going out. Her character literally had nothing else to do other than complain about how unfair her life was. It wasn't as bad as Pam on "Dallas" after Bobby started dating Jenna Wade, but it was pretty bad.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

highlights:
- The F'Lips episode
- the episode where Dylan freebased heroin and drove off a cliff
- any episode involving BAG rapping.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, according to IMDb the actress who played Andrea was Gabrielle Carteris, and she was born in 1961, which makes her 4 years older than even Luke Perry.

Carteris was also in the first season of The Surreal Life

Lindsay Price turned up in a couple episodes of Kitchen Confidential

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember one episode where the blonde kid shot himself in the face or something. I was 13. I got all emotional and shit haha.

I still don't understand how the cowboy hat he was wont to wear didn't protect him.

And you realize he died so that his best friend David could join the Cool Kids, right?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

And Brenda became intolerable after Kelly and Dylan started going out.

yeah, but that was when Dylan became intolerable, too! and Kelly was always intolerable.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

OHMIGOD, THE FLAMING LIPS EPISODE!!!

I was just thinking about that the other day. The most WTF? moment I'd seen on commercial television in a long time.

I Only Pretend To Like Spacerock (kate), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

remember the episode where Brenda couldn't stop listening to REM's "Losing My Religion"? THAT was intolerable.... sadly, the template for shows that 90210 provided has resulted in a ton of totally unwatchable shit.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Highlights:

-- DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!!

-- Brenda ripping into Dylan and Kelly on the street when she found out they'd been seeing each other during the summer. This might have been Brenda's finest moment (the ep when she snuck away to Baja with Dylan is right up there) but it was also one of her last scenes that was decent in any way.

-- Dylan giving David the straight talk on drugs and helping him flush his stash down the toilet.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Andrea was the type of character that served no purpose once they were out of high school (no need to have the stereotypical nerdy chick anymore) although it was entertaining to see her go from frigid to popping out babies in about one season's time.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I loved it when they brought Tiffani-Amber Thiessen over from Saved by the Bell to smoke pot and intimidate people. She rooled.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

And her trashy red-haired friend? They helped the plot along more than Aaaaaahndrea ever did.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

haha I just had to go find the flaming lips ep on youtube and there it is. (ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJC6GWZGswY)
I watchted show a lot until season 5 or so ... but I cannot remember this ep for the life of me, although I did watch the season where valerie had her club ...

clodia pulchra (emo by proxy), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

remember the episode where Brenda couldn't stop listening to REM's "Losing My Religion"? THAT was intolerable.... sadly, the template for shows that 90210 provided has resulted in a ton of totally unwatchable shit.

Remember the episode in which Dylan, curled into a ball on the couch, remembered his father playing with him on the beach? REM's "You Are the Everything" was on the soundtrack.

Mr. Walsh was Mr. Hogan of "The Hogan Family"!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

SO choice:

1. BAG getting hooked on speed or meth or whatever and zooming through his college radio show
2. The “racism is bad” episode, post L.A. riots
3. Jason P’s descent into alcoholism and exit from the show (what happened there plotwise? I had stopped watching by the time this went down – once they got to college and Brenda left it got boring boring boring)
4. Gabby having an affair with a heartless married dude that was discovered by sensitive Luke Perry
5. the episodes that spun off into Melrose Place
6. Perry’s dad’s (grizzled vet from Days) boat blowing up real good
7. The episodes where Dylan rescues his sister from a kidnapping so convoluted I can’t recall teh details now

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr. Walsh was Mr. Hogan of "The Hogan Family"!

Nope, that was Dylan's dad (also a Days of Our Lives regular, as Raymond noted).

Another daytime soap connection: Kelly's dad was played by the actor that played C.C. Capwell on "Santa Barbara".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr. Walsh was Mr. Hogan of "The Hogan Family"!

He's also Roman Brady on Days Of Our Lives, which my wife shamefully watches.

In the fall of 1999, I started watching re-runs of 90210 on FX every night from 5-7 when I was getting home and making dinner and such. This was the last year that actual new episodes were on the air, so I ended up watching the entire ten year run of the show (reruns on FX, new epidoses on Fox) in about 9 months. It was pretty intense, and I've not watched it or even thought much about it since then.

There was a time though when I was really drunk and trying to make up rap lyrics about 90210 - the only bit I remember was "getting lost like the Martian lander / cheating on the big test like Steve Sanders".

And what is Jamie Walters doing RIGHT NOW?

joygoat (joygoat), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

In the fall of 1999, I started watching re-runs of 90210 on FX every night from 5-7 when I was getting home and making dinner and such. This was the last year that actual new episodes were on the air, so I ended up watching the entire ten year run of the show (reruns on FX, new epidoses on Fox) in about 9 months. It was pretty intense, and I've not watched it or even thought much about it since then.

There was a time though when I was really drunk and trying to make up rap lyrics about 90210 - the only bit I remember was "getting lost like the Martian lander / cheating on the big test like Steve Sanders".

And what is Jamie Walters doing RIGHT NOW?

joygoat (joygoat), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, sorry, that's who I meant. I get all their improbable last names mixed up.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Jamie is dreaming of his ex Drew Barrymore.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my god, that happened. Drew Barrymore dated Jamie Walters.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

PEACH PIT AFTER DARK.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't Christine Elise have a reoccurring role on ER? Didn't she sleep with George Cooney after giving a little kid a spinal tap?

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

She gave Clooney's spine a tap.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

The amazing thing about 90210 was that even at 13 years old, I knew it was seriously lame and seriously great at the same time.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Jason P’s descent into alcoholism and exit from the show (what happened there plotwise? I had stopped watching by the time this went down – once they got to college and Brenda left it got boring boring boring)

Brandon got a journalist job in NYC after much Kelly angst.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how in the later non-Walsh episodes the Steve/Janet storylines (usually some sort of Beverly Beat hi-jinks) never intersect with the other characters. It's like two different TV shows are overlapped.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh Stevepaws.

Bluebell Madonna (Ex Leon), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Dylan in his whispering-don't-mess-with-me-voice saying:
"Go ahead... touch it..."

... to some guy hasseling Scott (cowboy-hat-suicide-guy), probably was BH90210's finest moment. This sentence at least flames on, not only in my world.
And Super Cub OTM. You *knew* this show was wrong, but *knew* it was grebt at the same time.

Gerard (Gerard), Thursday, 8 June 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It is the best of shows, it is the worst of shows. I regret my cable provider not having soapnet, it would be nice to catch a rerun every once in awhile.

The Ghost of Emily Valentine (Ex Leon), Thursday, 8 June 2006 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

LONG BANGS AND SIDEBURNS 4EVER

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Voted most likely to do just that at West Beverly iirc

I'm scared my but won't fit in it. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

lol

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

most unlikely to be granted her own talk show

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

in the episode where the gang wrestles with an anti-semitic/Nation of Islam-type "controversial" african american speaker coming to campus, Brandon gets in the classic line "Maybe we should have just invited Bill Cosby instead"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link

omg i just saw that episode

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

gotta be honest tho that grandma's got nothing on Andrea's first grandma

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

haha yes, too many grandmas!

possibly the most "LOL 90s" episode

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link

nobody knows how many grandmas Andrea actually had, but they all survived Buchenwald

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link

Grandma Rose (Grandma 1 )

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/90210/images/0/07/RoseZ.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170306224116

this actress is amazing, she also played Maxine on Desperate Housewives lol

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

lol xp. sorry image so big. but tbh she deserves it

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

And she walked around in a bathrobe all day!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

lol remember when she wouldn't lie about her address for Andrea's sake about

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

about

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

YES. omg Andrea got so upset. honestly Andrea upset is one of the most comical things to watch, she just gets so worked up

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

wait I thought Andrea played Andrea and Andrea's grandmother

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

lol. did you know that Andrea is the current president of the Screen Actor's Guild??!??!?!?! like where did that come from?

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

lol remember when she wouldn't lie about her address for Andrea's sake about

this is what came to mind when I read "Andrea's grandma". so yes I remember. can't remember the name of my friend's stepdaughter but I remember a minor plot point from 90210.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link

i mean, it was a big deal for Andrea

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

what *isn't* a big deal for Andrea

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

I like how her husband (MARK DAVID ESPINOZA) got an opening credit after being on the show less than two seasons - up yours, Joe E. Tata!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

Ta-ta!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link

musta had a mafia-backed agent, tho you'd think Joe E Tata would be the one with that

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

That actress is Lainie Kazan!

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link

holy shit

Her popularity increasing, Kazan posed nude for the October 1970 issue of Playboy, which was reused in Pocket Playboy #4, issued in 1974. Her appearance in the magazine opened the door for her to headline at, and operate, two different Playboy Jazz Clubs. Overseen by Hugh Hefner himself, the clubs were called "Lainie’s Room West" and "Lainie's Room East," each on opposite coasts, with the first one located in Los Angeles and the other in Manhattan. Her Playboy photographs inspired the look of Jack Kirby’s DC Comics superheroine, Big Barda.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

She’s also only 21 years older than Gabrielle Carteris.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

(bolded text most likely only of interest to Jewish comic nerds like me)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link

STOP
OMG
so funny because in Desp Housewives she played like a Digital madame
this is AMAZING!

surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:41 (four years ago) link

I have a couple of her records, I can’t remember if I have that one.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

Squash it!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link

Increase the peace.

DJI, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 00:53 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Streaming on Amazon Prime. I'm going to die.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 01:17 (six months ago) link

“Well, this man is dead.”

“What killed him?”

“*glances at TV* My guess? Sideburns and bangs.”

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 01:21 (six months ago) link

I just started rewatching this. Brandon is such a judgy asshole. The Walshes are giving Minnesota a bad name.

The signifiers of wealth are hilarious though. Valet parking at school, school radio station, brick cellphones, absent parents. BMWs and mopeds (??).

Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:42 (six months ago) link

It's quaint to see this kind of midwestern liberalism proudly asserting itself during the Poppy Bush Interzone

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:43 (six months ago) link

Also, Brenda tricks a 25-year-old guy, over several dates, into thinking she's 21-22 y/o. When he finds out the truth he gets angry and drops her straight home. Her reaction is 'Don't you think this is hard for me????' She runs into her mother's arms who tells her 'Its okay! Its okay!'

I mean, IS IT???

Esteemed character actress (sunny successor), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:47 (six months ago) link

Damn, I didn’t remember that plot point at all! But I haven’t watched these since they were airing…

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:49 (six months ago) link

The rave episode, the Flaming Lips appearance but honestly maybe the musical moment that marks a time and place is right in the pilot where Brenda goes to that nightclub and Gene Loves Jezebel's "The Motion of Love" is what's on their soundsystem. (Especially since it was 1990 and that came out three years prior, but maybe that makes sense for the sleazy lawyer making the moves.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:56 (six months ago) link

I distinctly remember "Hippychick" and PSB's "So Hard" soundtracking a couple episodes.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:04 (six months ago) link

Truly the Poppy Bush Interzone soundtrack!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:21 (six months ago) link

need footage of Steve and Dylan gettin' down to "Kinky Afro."

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:24 (six months ago) link

I was too young to watch this at the time, but have been dipping in when I feel like some '90s cheese--so I tend to go straight to the "very special" episodes such as "Ashes to Ashes", where a Black family moves in next door and face hassles with the neighborhood private security. ("A scheduled April repeat of this episode was pulled from the air without notice following the Los Angeles riots because it was supposedly too controversial" sez Wikipedia.)

Having served their afterschool special role, this family is never seen again on the show.

A kind soul on the internet has done editing work to restore the original music back into the episodes and uploaded them onto Google Drive. If the email linked to my ILX account still existed I'd be happy to share the link, but alas.

blatherskite, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:35 (six months ago) link

^^^ Ah, yes! The “squash it” episode

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:41 (six months ago) link


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